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blizzak · 02-13-2004, 07:20 AM

*bump*

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Originally posted by blizzak
alright bumping this thread back to the front
plan9, how do you impress a girl that seems to be very shy/not experienced with relationships?
I don't wanna come on too strong and all, but in the context of "the guide", I could see some of the techniques backfiring on me
ever had a situation like this?

haha quoting myself and bumping the thread again...I only hope plan9 comes back around to show me the way.

Mettler · 02-20-2004, 08:33 AM

If you find a girl that doesn't play these games... why don't you just treat her how you want to be treated ?

Smimpinj · 02-24-2004, 09:44 PM

This threads pretty hip' I'll keep reading, learnign and trying out. Thanks for the advice Plan9

mr.montreal · 02-24-2004, 11:13 PM

alot of you guys and girls are missing the point.

these techniques are for picking up a chick....and hopefully banging her, in this game, quality is not the determining factor.

you the man plan9.

Zander · 02-24-2004, 11:50 PM

For all those that are still doubting, this works.

I used to be a huge IW until I was 17, then after discovering the same advice, but not from here, I tended to be more OB and a little more mysoginistic- I went on a 6 week college camp where you stay in a dorm and take a college class or two. With my newfound attitude, I easily hooked up with 2 of the girls there, and could have hooked up with more had I not made mistakes that I now know to avoid.

Plan9, excellent advice, did you get this from Fastseduction.com? And also, www.intellectualwhores.com is a good site with ladder theory that explains the IW/OB friends/fuckers zone.

BTW Plan9, where in the O.C. do you live?

HYEHORSE · 02-26-2004, 01:45 PM

the thing that has always made me laugh is when younger guys lie to girls about their age. why? if a girl likes you, she is going to like you whether your 21 or 25 regardless of her age. don't lie to girls about age, it will come back to haunt you in the long run.

Evil Milkman · 02-26-2004, 07:05 PM

Amazing advice. I finally got around to reading this all the way through, and am looking forward to having fun with these techniques. The main concern I have is to learn not to take myself so damned seriously. That might get me farther than I've ever been...

Thanks, plan9!

Zander · 02-26-2004, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by HYEHORSE
the thing that has always made me laugh is when younger guys lie to girls about their age. why? if a girl likes you, she is going to like you whether your 21 or 25 regardless of her age. don't lie to girls about age, it will come back to haunt you in the long run.

WRONG

learn to lie to girls. it helps.

bing bing · 02-27-2004, 04:59 AM

ahem i think we're due for another lesson

greyeyes · 03-03-2004, 05:39 PM

OK, now that I have finally finished reading this entire thread (it took me a week to read, digest, and re read) I am ready to try your advice plan9. Thank you for your time and effort in putting this massive thread together, and thank you all who have posted here giving your own opinions whether they aggree with plan9 or not. I do have a question of my own for plan9 and anyone else who would like to advise me in my actions. I remember that it was said that relationships at work will not work or rarely work out well; but in my situation there is a girl at work who I rarely talk to and whenever I do it is for short periods of time (I just dont have much to say to her). Now, it has been brought to my attention that this girl wants to fuck my brains out or me fuck her brains out however it goes. She is a decent looking girl that I have NOTHING in common with and would NEVER want a relationship with. Would you advise shacking up with this female co'worker? I believe that doing just this will allow me to get my game back because it's been a while for me, a long while. Though I do not plan on having a relationship with this fellow coworker. I have also been under the impression that all she wants is someone to fill her hole, no relationship attached.

For the past few months I actually have been horribly celibate and I honestly did not care (I used to have a girlfriend, really hot, I realized that every time we had sex it was because I instigated it and I was tired of that so I waited for her to do just that (instigate sex). She never did, we broke up, and I guess I never got out of the rut of not instigating anything (that's pretty much the jist of why I stopped fuking)). Now I need the advice of anyone who thinks they have the answer to my prediciment. I also sincerly hope the MAC who started this thread will pitch in his ideas as well.

Thanks guys

emphant · 03-03-2004, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Mettler
If you find a girl that doesn't play these games... why don't you just treat her how you want to be treated ?

Because these girls are few and far between. Right now you are thinking "Oh, but my girl is different." No she isn't.

If you somehow do find this chick, then yes, no need to play games ,but they are just so rare that you do what you have to.

mulletJeb · 03-05-2004, 05:03 PM

never thanked ya for this.. it's very enlightening, helping me out i think (im kinda lazy but atleast i know what im supposed to be doing now, and taking steps to get there)

Skettios · 03-05-2004, 07:53 PM

Plan 9

I read your thread a few months ago, and have been studing the Player Guide 'http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/', for awhile now. If I recall you gave a homework assignment early in the thread that said to talk to random girls.

I've been working on this a lot lately, and have recently run into quite a bit of success. You asked us to report back, and so I am, using some of the stuff you said in your post my social life has gotten more fun.

I think most people tend to be shy, it's very difficult to meet new people. If you force yourself to do it though, it's extremely rewarding.

I want to revive this thread and lets start talking about this stuff again.

Here are my tips for meeting girls.

1. Dress nice.
2. Don't be afraid to make the first move, get rid of your fear of rejection now (will go into this more if you guys need help)
3. Talk to everyone, not just girls. You never know who is friends with who. Talking to the creepy old dude at the bar might net you a conversation with the cute waitress that regularly waits on him, and a lot of times a free drink.

Ultimate rule is have some confidence and don't be afraid to try.

greyeyes · 03-06-2004, 08:38 PM

OK guys, this has nothing to do with my last post. Tonight, OOh tonigh, well last night really, like I has stated before I am a waiter and last night I waited on this extremely beautiful girl and her mom and aunt or some other relative (maybe older friend but that is beside the point). I went over and started converstation talking to the whole group and not focousing on the beauty. Well, I ended up getting her number and called it that night because she was only in town for a few days, she didn't pick up. I called again today, she didn't pick up. I thought 'oh well fuck it she was only in town for a few days anyway, but damn she was hot'. I had today off but my boss called me in to work. I worked all evening and at the end of the night some of my fellow servers were talking about this gorgeous girl that was sitting at table five, I was ready to go home so I didn't check. I ended up cleaning my tables and I heard my name in the air. I looked around and saw that SHE WAS BACK SITTING AT TABLE 5 (sorry trying to hold back my excitement). I went over and spoke to her and her friend made small talk and eventually they envited me to a party at their hotel. now I'm back at home to get a shower but I really wanted to tell you guys about this awesome situation that I just pretty much fell into, I am not a player or that great with girls but I will definately try to use everything that I have learned on this post. THANK YOU PLAN9 if it wasn't for you I would have no idea of what to do you are great!
excuse me for the rant type of writing style but I am extrememly excited about tonight, needed to let some of it out before I went tonight. Wish me luck guys, I'll post how I faire later

TinniT · 03-07-2004, 11:28 AM

it is now later

greyeyes · 03-08-2004, 11:38 PM

Yeah, it turned out that this girl was seventeen (not a good thing unless you enjoy being put behind bars) but there was a stimulating conversation that was had. This converstion lasted for five, almost six, hours. She ended up being a fun girl that I would definately would like to hang out with some other time but sadly she lives three or four hours away (probably not worth it). Alas that is how things ended, oh and she told me to call her but I don't see the point.

thebiz · 03-09-2004, 04:13 PM

shes gotta turn 18 sometime.

triad · 03-09-2004, 04:55 PM

wow, just read the whole thing- thanks a lot plan9, i'll be sure to be trying these tips out!

blizzak · 03-12-2004, 06:44 PM

hey, it'd be cool if this thread became a sticky already....any mods feeling friendly

plan, i'm gonna send you a pm since you don't like to reply here so much anymore, but your awesome thread could use a little more attention.....heh
oh and yeah, I still haven't gotten any, but maybe it's just cause I haven't been trying hard enough
rest assured, hopefully everything will work out

elgar40 · 03-13-2004, 12:32 AM

I have read all of Plan9's posts on this thread that are "lessons" etc. and have loved every one of them. Although I haven't applied any of techniques, this thread has inspired me, because now I know there is hope for me!

. I have used some of the advice in general with girls I know, and it works so well. I am not getting any from them but I keep their attention for much longer.

First a little about myself: I am 5'9" and 270 lbs.! I have pretty much been fat all my life and so getting in shape, working out, etc. were just completely foreign to me until about a year ago when I tried (unsuccessfully) to lose weight. So needless to say, I just don't have much confidence when it comes to girls. I am a guy who likes to joke around a lot. I am the type of guy who can make people laugh with just a little twist of my face or one word. Most people would describe me as goofy.

My serious problem is always becoming friends with girls that I am attracted to. It ALWAYS happens. I am a "nice guy" and have been taught to respect women from a very early age. I see guys doing the stuff described in this thread and think, why the hell are girls going for this stuff. I guess I really just didn't want to be another one of "those" guys. Of course I end becoming another friend.

My girl to guy friend ratio is about 10:1, which probably says a lot. The problem is that I just don't like hanging out with guys. I am really interested in stuff like classical music and art. Most guys don't want to go to concerts and stuff.

So here is my question.

There is a girl in one of my classes who is really smart and a girl who studies a lot. She basically DOESNT date. I thought she was really boring until I got to know her a little better. She actually is pretty attractive though, and lately I have been trying to knock down her no dating walls. I am good friends with her roommate and she basically told me that "she just doesn't think of guys that way". But here is the thing: I think I can, with the right approach, get her interested.

This is the type of girl I usually go for. Maybe I am just getting myself into a corner, but I just don't find the dolled up girls attractive. There is way more I could post.

So how do you get those girls who are really smart and make it a point not to date?

I know deep down she wants someone, but I just need to make her see that.

Edit: My last girlfriend was similar, but I think that all happened by accident and by me being insanely persistant.

Edit: She isn't gay.

Strange Famous · 03-13-2004, 01:11 AM

It kinda sounds like the roomate was trying to tell you that the girl you like is gay?

Skettios · 03-15-2004, 08:58 PM

elgar40

There are two things that could be going on here...

One is that your roommate is trying to politely tell you that you're already out of the race (not a big deal, she doesn't even know you yet right)

The other is that this girl has had some horribly strict upbringing and doesn't date, or there is something else wrong with her (emotional problems and stuff).

If I were you, I'd find an 'in' with the roommate. Play a game in their room, or something innocent where she would want to get involved, and then turn it playfully flirty. If you can do that, it will give you room to work, and it sounds like that's all you need brother.

edit: Also don't get 'one-itis' she is not the only attractive intelligent girl out there.

Finally, take the kid gloves off. Smart girls appreciate a smart guy who isn't afraid to call them out, and butt heads with them. A lot of the girls I've dated (or lucked into dating) was because I'm a stubborn asshole who doesn't let them state positions without backing them up with facts. Always remember friends ladder.

elgar40 · 03-15-2004, 09:03 PM

Well, we hang out sometimes. There are even sometimes when it is just me and her doing homework together. And believe me, I flirt with her, probably more than she has ever been flirted with. But she is just general unresponsive, with some exceptions. I was just wondering if there were any success stories with this sort of thing.

Skettios · 03-15-2004, 09:13 PM

Yeah, this girl sounds like a hard nut to crack.

Do some homework and find out what her interests are too, and develop the same interests, like a cheesy 80s movie.

Also, have you tried just asking her out. This usually sucks and 90% of the time it doesn't work, but if you feel like you're not getting anywhere anyway, it couldn't hurt. Maybe she's the one in a million girl who won't take perverse pleasure stomping on the nice guys heart.

Also, if you do try to ask her out, be very aggressive, remember, you should never feel bad about asking a girl out, she's at your level or lower.

justinh28 · 03-16-2004, 01:39 PM

you really dont know the first thing about getting a girl

spoo · 03-31-2004, 10:34 PM

Plan9 you are my new hero.

i dont know when this thread was started.. but i just spent the last 3 - 4 hours reading the whole thing (i just signed up today) ..

im totaly joining a gym and dressing better, and following these tips!

here comes the new me!!!!

badass bunny · 04-05-2004, 08:41 PM

great thread. i just got over a long term relationship and some fun is just what the doctor ordered. i got to try this out. it's so simple i cant believe it. just got to get the confidence and the time.
thanks

Tman144 · 04-05-2004, 10:13 PM

For people who don't want to read the whole thing, here is a link from another post in the thread that has all the important parts.
http://iceberg5.dyndns.org/gg101.pdf

tarvuz · 04-09-2004, 11:37 PM

getting girls is easy.
1. Be attracted to them
2. Be somewhat forward
3. Ask

hy_ · 04-13-2004, 06:38 PM

thanks plan9, a lot of useful stuff, keep posting, a lot of us appreciate your posts!!!!

final_identity · 04-17-2004, 05:51 PM

bump ...

I'm fascinated by this thread. There's so much here, but also so much I've heard elsewhere. I'm going to take my time to digest it.

Strange Famous · 04-18-2004, 03:41 AM

Well: I still can't get a girl, but its not that easy when you are fat, depressive, have no confidence or self esteem, no money, no car, are getting evicted from your apartment, dont have any real friends anymore... I think I need a whole other level of techniques.

shAzb0t · 05-12-2004, 08:07 PM

is this thread still alive? well, bump anyways.

i have this problem where i can't seem to initiate any type of contact with these girls, i just never have the right thing to start of a good conversation or the right idea to get something going. i end up being the one who waits for them to talk to me so that i've been sort of "pushed into the water" and am in the thick of it, where i can just start improvising what i say, and usually i relax after that.

the problem with me is i am too much of a thinker, i analyze when would be the best time to do this, when would be the best time to meet her, and then i never have a plan as to what to do.

as for the 1st lesson in this post i'm doing everything i can in that department, so my self-esteem should be good enough to give me confidence to approach them, but i have this inferiority complex when it comes to girls that i don't deserve any of them...they are just so superior.

shAzb0t · 05-12-2004, 08:21 PM

lol, just read lesson 10, thanks.

EVIDENT · 05-15-2004, 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by Plan9
Ok, went to the bar tonight. Right away I spotted the best looking girl there. She was a young girl (just turned 21) and was with her family celebrating a birthday (dunno whos). Anyway, I made my mind up that I wanted her. I noticed that everybody in the bar was staring at her... trying to talk to her every chance they got. What did I do? Well I waited until she made eye contact with me and then I made sure to look away and seem like I wasn't that interested. I continued to play pool, hang out with my friends etc... I later made it a point to get friendly with her not so pretty friends. About an hour into the night, I could tell this girl couldn't understand why I wasn't coming after her like everybody else in the bar was. By now, her friends and family thought I was cool and they decided they were going to go to another bar to check it out. Before they left, I said to the hot one, "Hey, you friends with these girls? My name is Eric, where you taking off to?" She responded, "We are going to go check out (insert bar here)." I said, "No use going there, I'm here. Come back here when you get bored of that dive." She lauged and they left. About 2 hrs later she shows up again. Walks up to me and starts initiating the conversation. I told her I was taking off and it was nice meeting her. She said, "Wait, can I get your number to maybe hang out sometime?".

Money. This girl was absolutely a goddess, yet I made it seem as if I was not that interested... she wasn't used to that. My friends jaws were dropped at this tonight because they thought she was insanely hot, but they always seem to enjoy my antics. Will she call? Who cares... there are always others. Keep those expectations higher then you should and you will accomplish things you never thought possible.

Damn, nice job

ozmodiar · 05-15-2004, 09:35 PM

funny stuff. reminds me of the whole "respect the cock, tame the cunt" thing from Magnolia. Sadly this stuff works, but then your stuck with someone that would actually fall for it. The trick is to find a woman that transcends the rules. At least for me anyway. Of course i'm not in my early 20's anymore.

blizzak · 05-17-2004, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plan9
Keep those expectations higher then you should and you will accomplish things you never thought possible.

Best quote. Ever.

final_identity · 05-18-2004, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by ozmodiar
funny stuff. reminds me of the whole "respect the cock, tame the cunt" thing from Magnolia. Sadly this stuff works, but then your stuck with someone that would actually fall for it. The trick is to find a woman that transcends the rules. At least for me anyway. Of course i'm not in my early 20's anymore.

I'm beginning to think that "someone that would actually fall for it" is almost redundant -- the "it" is ANY technique that will work on your desired target. And, more important, are there really women who "transcend" the game? I don't think so -- they're just so good at it you don't notice.

Their first criterion, is that they don't illuminate their criteria. Their second, is that they retain the right to change their criteria. Their third, is that they prefer a man who plays, over a man who doesn't. But he has to "play" in the "right way." How can there be a woman who "transcends" that?

rock101jeff · 05-20-2004, 07:06 AM

Alright, since this has just been updated, I'll give you my experience. I'm a terrible person to initiate contacts. Lack of confidence is my problem, but it's getting more and more apparent I'm a stud so that's starting to go away.

Anyway, I just met this girl last Sunday. She works with my sister, and when she first saw me she had been bugging my sister on a daily basis to introduce me to her.

We go out and have a great time. I just strike up normal conversation with her and we talk about all sorts of stuff. I pick on her about some things in a joking manner, and she eats it up. What's really nice is there was no real awkward silence because it was a group get together. I brought her back to her car when the date was over and she asked if I wanted her number. I got hers and she took mine. I gave her a kiss (not a serious one) and a hug and was on my way.

I talked to my sister the next day and she said everyone at work was talking about me, cause this girl was saying how great I am and how she likes me. So my sister told me to call her that next day (which is against everything I've read before), but I did and it was great. We talked for like five minutes tops and I asked her what her schedule looked like for the upcoming week. She told me she had Saturday and then the following Wednesday off, so I asked her out for Wednesday, and she was like, "what about Saturday?" I work early Saturday mornings, so I didn't want to take any chances and have a shitty time being so tired. I told her about work and she was okay with Wednesday.

Anyway, I kept thinking about how I probably should see her for a little bit on Saturday at the least, just so she doesn't forget about me, so I called her yesterday (Wednesday) and talked for like fifteen minutes, ending with the proposal of lunch on Saturday after I get out of work. She was all for it and so I'm set to see her both days (After I asked her about Saturday she was like, "So what are we doing Wednesday?").

So that's where I stand right now. This isn't the typical way to pick up girls cause I had someone else help me out, but in my way of handling the dates and stuff, that's been explained here. So far everything has worked, although one thing I'm dealing with is over analyzing the situation. Man, it SUCKS when you have too much time to think about things, cause you end up killing your confidence. I'm building it back up to where it was so I *should* be okay, but we'll see. I'll know for sure Saturday if I want to keep things going with this girl.

Anyway, just decided to post up an "experience" for you guys to see. This players guide is a great tool to build off of, and not just because of confidence. Women play games just as much as guys do, so learn how to play it right if you want to be successful dating. Good luck.

EVIDENT · 05-30-2004, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by blizzak
Best quote. Ever.

I agree.

03-03-2004, 05:39 PM	#370 (permalink)
greyeyes ham on rye would be nice Location: I don't even know anymore	OK, now that I have finally finished reading this entire thread (it took me a week to read, digest, and re read) I am ready to try your advice plan9. Thank you for your time and effort in putting this massive thread together, and thank you all who have posted here giving your own opinions whether they aggree with plan9 or not. I do have a question of my own for plan9 and anyone else who would like to advise me in my actions. I remember that it was said that relationships at work will not work or rarely work out well; but in my situation there is a girl at work who I rarely talk to and whenever I do it is for short periods of time (I just dont have much to say to her). Now, it has been brought to my attention that this girl wants to fuck my brains out or me fuck her brains out however it goes. She is a decent looking girl that I have NOTHING in common with and would NEVER want a relationship with. Would you advise shacking up with this female co'worker? I believe that doing just this will allow me to get my game back because it's been a while for me, a long while. Though I do not plan on having a relationship with this fellow coworker. I have also been under the impression that all she wants is someone to fill her hole, no relationship attached. For the past few months I actually have been horribly celibate and I honestly did not care (I used to have a girlfriend, really hot, I realized that every time we had sex it was because I instigated it and I was tired of that so I waited for her to do just that (instigate sex). She never did, we broke up, and I guess I never got out of the rut of not instigating anything (that's pretty much the jist of why I stopped fuking)). Now I need the advice of anyone who thinks they have the answer to my prediciment. I also sincerly hope the MAC who started this thread will pitch in his ideas as well. Thanks guys __________________ I'm kind of jealous of the life I'm supposedly leading. - Zach Braff Last edited by greyeyes; 03-03-2004 at 05:41 PM..

03-05-2004, 07:53 PM	#373 (permalink)
Skettios Condition: Stable and Improving Location: Finger on the little red button.	Plan 9 I read your thread a few months ago, and have been studing the Player Guide 'http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/', for awhile now. If I recall you gave a homework assignment early in the thread that said to talk to random girls. I've been working on this a lot lately, and have recently run into quite a bit of success. You asked us to report back, and so I am, using some of the stuff you said in your post my social life has gotten more fun. I think most people tend to be shy, it's very difficult to meet new people. If you force yourself to do it though, it's extremely rewarding. I want to revive this thread and lets start talking about this stuff again. Here are my tips for meeting girls. 1. Dress nice. 2. Don't be afraid to make the first move, get rid of your fear of rejection now (will go into this more if you guys need help) 3. Talk to everyone, not just girls. You never know who is friends with who. Talking to the creepy old dude at the bar might net you a conversation with the cute waitress that regularly waits on him, and a lot of times a free drink. Ultimate rule is have some confidence and don't be afraid to try. __________________ Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. Frederich Nietzsche

03-06-2004, 08:38 PM	#374 (permalink)
greyeyes ham on rye would be nice Location: I don't even know anymore	OK guys, this has nothing to do with my last post. Tonight, OOh tonigh, well last night really, like I has stated before I am a waiter and last night I waited on this extremely beautiful girl and her mom and aunt or some other relative (maybe older friend but that is beside the point). I went over and started converstation talking to the whole group and not focousing on the beauty. Well, I ended up getting her number and called it that night because she was only in town for a few days, she didn't pick up. I called again today, she didn't pick up. I thought 'oh well fuck it she was only in town for a few days anyway, but damn she was hot'. I had today off but my boss called me in to work. I worked all evening and at the end of the night some of my fellow servers were talking about this gorgeous girl that was sitting at table five, I was ready to go home so I didn't check. I ended up cleaning my tables and I heard my name in the air. I looked around and saw that SHE WAS BACK SITTING AT TABLE 5 (sorry trying to hold back my excitement). I went over and spoke to her and her friend made small talk and eventually they envited me to a party at their hotel. now I'm back at home to get a shower but I really wanted to tell you guys about this awesome situation that I just pretty much fell into, I am not a player or that great with girls but I will definately try to use everything that I have learned on this post. THANK YOU PLAN9 if it wasn't for you I would have no idea of what to do you are great! excuse me for the rant type of writing style but I am extrememly excited about tonight, needed to let some of it out before I went tonight. Wish me luck guys, I'll post how I faire later __________________ I'm kind of jealous of the life I'm supposedly leading. - Zach Braff

03-08-2004, 11:38 PM	#376 (permalink)
greyeyes ham on rye would be nice Location: I don't even know anymore	Yeah, it turned out that this girl was seventeen (not a good thing unless you enjoy being put behind bars) but there was a stimulating conversation that was had. This converstion lasted for five, almost six, hours. She ended up being a fun girl that I would definately would like to hang out with some other time but sadly she lives three or four hours away (probably not worth it). Alas that is how things ended, oh and she told me to call her but I don't see the point. __________________ I'm kind of jealous of the life I'm supposedly leading. - Zach Braff

03-09-2004, 04:13 PM	#377 (permalink)
thebiz Tilted	shes gotta turn 18 sometime. __________________ Thebiz. Hes so hot right now. Thebiz.

02-20-2004, 08:33 AM	#362 (permalink)
Mettler Upright Location: NZ	If you find a girl that doesn't play these games... why don't you just treat her how you want to be treated ?

02-24-2004, 09:44 PM	#363 (permalink)
Smimpinj Tilted Location: Somewhere, Insignificant	This threads pretty hip' I'll keep reading, learnign and trying out. Thanks for the advice Plan9

02-24-2004, 11:13 PM	#364 (permalink)
mr.montreal Upright Location: montreal,canada	alot of you guys and girls are missing the point. these techniques are for picking up a chick....and hopefully banging her, in this game, quality is not the determining factor. you the man plan9.

02-24-2004, 11:50 PM	#365 (permalink)
Zander Banned Location: Vegas/So. Cal	For all those that are still doubting, this works. I used to be a huge IW until I was 17, then after discovering the same advice, but not from here, I tended to be more OB and a little more mysoginistic- I went on a 6 week college camp where you stay in a dorm and take a college class or two. With my newfound attitude, I easily hooked up with 2 of the girls there, and could have hooked up with more had I not made mistakes that I now know to avoid. Plan9, excellent advice, did you get this from Fastseduction.com? And also, www.intellectualwhores.com is a good site with ladder theory that explains the IW/OB friends/fuckers zone. BTW Plan9, where in the O.C. do you live?

02-26-2004, 01:45 PM	#366 (permalink)
HYEHORSE Upright	the thing that has always made me laugh is when younger guys lie to girls about their age. why? if a girl likes you, she is going to like you whether your 21 or 25 regardless of her age. don't lie to girls about age, it will come back to haunt you in the long run.

02-26-2004, 07:05 PM	#367 (permalink)
Evil Milkman Addict Location: Illinois	Amazing advice. I finally got around to reading this all the way through, and am looking forward to having fun with these techniques. The main concern I have is to learn not to take myself so damned seriously. That might get me farther than I've ever been... Thanks, plan9!

02-27-2004, 04:59 AM	#369 (permalink)
bing bing Addict Location: Melbourne, Australia	ahem i think we're due for another lesson

03-05-2004, 05:03 PM	#372 (permalink)
mulletJeb Insane	never thanked ya for this.. it's very enlightening, helping me out i think (im kinda lazy but atleast i know what im supposed to be doing now, and taking steps to get there)

03-07-2004, 11:28 AM	#375 (permalink)
TinniT Crazy	it is now later

03-09-2004, 04:55 PM	#378 (permalink)
triad Tilted	wow, just read the whole thing- thanks a lot plan9, i'll be sure to be trying these tips out!

03-12-2004, 06:44 PM	#379 (permalink)
blizzak Crazy	hey, it'd be cool if this thread became a sticky already....any mods feeling friendly plan, i'm gonna send you a pm since you don't like to reply here so much anymore, but your awesome thread could use a little more attention.....heh oh and yeah, I still haven't gotten any, but maybe it's just cause I haven't been trying hard enough rest assured, hopefully everything will work out __________________ Fueled by oxytocin!

03-13-2004, 12:32 AM	#380 (permalink)
elgar40 Crazy	Getting the The Intellegent Girl I have read all of Plan9's posts on this thread that are "lessons" etc. and have loved every one of them. Although I haven't applied any of techniques, this thread has inspired me, because now I know there is hope for me! . I have used some of the advice in general with girls I know, and it works so well. I am not getting any from them but I keep their attention for much longer. First a little about myself: I am 5'9" and 270 lbs.! I have pretty much been fat all my life and so getting in shape, working out, etc. were just completely foreign to me until about a year ago when I tried (unsuccessfully) to lose weight. So needless to say, I just don't have much confidence when it comes to girls. I am a guy who likes to joke around a lot. I am the type of guy who can make people laugh with just a little twist of my face or one word. Most people would describe me as goofy. My serious problem is always becoming friends with girls that I am attracted to. It ALWAYS happens. I am a "nice guy" and have been taught to respect women from a very early age. I see guys doing the stuff described in this thread and think, why the hell are girls going for this stuff. I guess I really just didn't want to be another one of "those" guys. Of course I end becoming another friend. My girl to guy friend ratio is about 10:1, which probably says a lot. The problem is that I just don't like hanging out with guys. I am really interested in stuff like classical music and art. Most guys don't want to go to concerts and stuff. So here is my question. There is a girl in one of my classes who is really smart and a girl who studies a lot. She basically DOESNT date. I thought she was really boring until I got to know her a little better. She actually is pretty attractive though, and lately I have been trying to knock down her no dating walls. I am good friends with her roommate and she basically told me that "she just doesn't think of guys that way". But here is the thing: I think I can, with the right approach, get her interested. This is the type of girl I usually go for. Maybe I am just getting myself into a corner, but I just don't find the dolled up girls attractive. There is way more I could post. So how do you get those girls who are really smart and make it a point not to date? I know deep down she wants someone, but I just need to make her see that. Edit: My last girlfriend was similar, but I think that all happened by accident and by me being insanely persistant. Edit: She isn't gay. Last edited by elgar40; 03-13-2004 at 01:58 AM..

03-13-2004, 01:11 AM	#381 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	It kinda sounds like the roomate was trying to tell you that the girl you like is gay? __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

03-15-2004, 08:58 PM	#382 (permalink)
Skettios Condition: Stable and Improving Location: Finger on the little red button.	elgar40 There are two things that could be going on here... One is that your roommate is trying to politely tell you that you're already out of the race (not a big deal, she doesn't even know you yet right) The other is that this girl has had some horribly strict upbringing and doesn't date, or there is something else wrong with her (emotional problems and stuff). If I were you, I'd find an 'in' with the roommate. Play a game in their room, or something innocent where she would want to get involved, and then turn it playfully flirty. If you can do that, it will give you room to work, and it sounds like that's all you need brother. edit: Also don't get 'one-itis' she is not the only attractive intelligent girl out there. Finally, take the kid gloves off. Smart girls appreciate a smart guy who isn't afraid to call them out, and butt heads with them. A lot of the girls I've dated (or lucked into dating) was because I'm a stubborn asshole who doesn't let them state positions without backing them up with facts. Always remember friends ladder. __________________ Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. Frederich Nietzsche Last edited by Skettios; 03-15-2004 at 09:05 PM..

03-15-2004, 09:03 PM	#383 (permalink)
elgar40 Crazy	Well, we hang out sometimes. There are even sometimes when it is just me and her doing homework together. And believe me, I flirt with her, probably more than she has ever been flirted with. But she is just general unresponsive, with some exceptions. I was just wondering if there were any success stories with this sort of thing.

03-15-2004, 09:13 PM	#384 (permalink)
Skettios Condition: Stable and Improving Location: Finger on the little red button.	Yeah, this girl sounds like a hard nut to crack. Do some homework and find out what her interests are too, and develop the same interests, like a cheesy 80s movie. Also, have you tried just asking her out. This usually sucks and 90% of the time it doesn't work, but if you feel like you're not getting anywhere anyway, it couldn't hurt. Maybe she's the one in a million girl who won't take perverse pleasure stomping on the nice guys heart. Also, if you do try to ask her out, be very aggressive, remember, you should never feel bad about asking a girl out, she's at your level or lower. __________________ Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. Frederich Nietzsche Last edited by Skettios; 03-15-2004 at 09:16 PM..

03-16-2004, 01:39 PM	#385 (permalink)
justinh28 Upright Location: houston, texas	you really dont know the first thing about getting a girl

03-31-2004, 10:34 PM	#386 (permalink)
spoo Upright	Plan9 you are my new hero. i dont know when this thread was started.. but i just spent the last 3 - 4 hours reading the whole thing (i just signed up today) .. im totaly joining a gym and dressing better, and following these tips! here comes the new me!!!! __________________ go fish.

04-05-2004, 08:41 PM	#387 (permalink)
badass bunny Upright	great thread. i just got over a long term relationship and some fun is just what the doctor ordered. i got to try this out. it's so simple i cant believe it. just got to get the confidence and the time. thanks

04-05-2004, 10:13 PM	#388 (permalink)
Tman144 Tilted	For people who don't want to read the whole thing, here is a link from another post in the thread that has all the important parts. http://iceberg5.dyndns.org/gg101.pdf __________________ "Don't touch my belt, you Jesus freak!" -Mr. Gruff the Atheist Goat

04-09-2004, 11:37 PM	#389 (permalink)
tarvuz Tilted Location: Seattle	getting girls is easy. 1. Be attracted to them 2. Be somewhat forward 3. Ask __________________ funny quip

04-13-2004, 06:38 PM	#390 (permalink)
hy_ Crazy	thanks plan9, a lot of useful stuff, keep posting, a lot of us appreciate your posts!!!!

04-17-2004, 05:51 PM	#391 (permalink)
final_identity Tilted Location: Jackson, MS	bump ... I'm fascinated by this thread. There's so much here, but also so much I've heard elsewhere. I'm going to take my time to digest it. __________________ The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. Friedrich Nietzsche

04-18-2004, 03:41 AM	#392 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	Well: I still can't get a girl, but its not that easy when you are fat, depressive, have no confidence or self esteem, no money, no car, are getting evicted from your apartment, dont have any real friends anymore... I think I need a whole other level of techniques. __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

05-12-2004, 08:07 PM	#393 (permalink)
shAzb0t Psycho Location: whereever my portable hard drive takes me	is this thread still alive? well, bump anyways. i have this problem where i can't seem to initiate any type of contact with these girls, i just never have the right thing to start of a good conversation or the right idea to get something going. i end up being the one who waits for them to talk to me so that i've been sort of "pushed into the water" and am in the thick of it, where i can just start improvising what i say, and usually i relax after that. the problem with me is i am too much of a thinker, i analyze when would be the best time to do this, when would be the best time to meet her, and then i never have a plan as to what to do. as for the 1st lesson in this post i'm doing everything i can in that department, so my self-esteem should be good enough to give me confidence to approach them, but i have this inferiority complex when it comes to girls that i don't deserve any of them...they are just so superior.

05-12-2004, 08:21 PM	#394 (permalink)
shAzb0t Psycho Location: whereever my portable hard drive takes me	lol, just read lesson 10, thanks.

05-15-2004, 09:35 PM	#396 (permalink)
ozmodiar Upright	funny stuff. reminds me of the whole "respect the cock, tame the cunt" thing from Magnolia. Sadly this stuff works, but then your stuck with someone that would actually fall for it. The trick is to find a woman that transcends the rules. At least for me anyway. Of course i'm not in my early 20's anymore.

05-20-2004, 07:06 AM	#399 (permalink)
rock101jeff Upright	Alright, since this has just been updated, I'll give you my experience. I'm a terrible person to initiate contacts. Lack of confidence is my problem, but it's getting more and more apparent I'm a stud so that's starting to go away. Anyway, I just met this girl last Sunday. She works with my sister, and when she first saw me she had been bugging my sister on a daily basis to introduce me to her. We go out and have a great time. I just strike up normal conversation with her and we talk about all sorts of stuff. I pick on her about some things in a joking manner, and she eats it up. What's really nice is there was no real awkward silence because it was a group get together. I brought her back to her car when the date was over and she asked if I wanted her number. I got hers and she took mine. I gave her a kiss (not a serious one) and a hug and was on my way. I talked to my sister the next day and she said everyone at work was talking about me, cause this girl was saying how great I am and how she likes me. So my sister told me to call her that next day (which is against everything I've read before), but I did and it was great. We talked for like five minutes tops and I asked her what her schedule looked like for the upcoming week. She told me she had Saturday and then the following Wednesday off, so I asked her out for Wednesday, and she was like, "what about Saturday?" I work early Saturday mornings, so I didn't want to take any chances and have a shitty time being so tired. I told her about work and she was okay with Wednesday. Anyway, I kept thinking about how I probably should see her for a little bit on Saturday at the least, just so she doesn't forget about me, so I called her yesterday (Wednesday) and talked for like fifteen minutes, ending with the proposal of lunch on Saturday after I get out of work. She was all for it and so I'm set to see her both days (After I asked her about Saturday she was like, "So what are we doing Wednesday?"). So that's where I stand right now. This isn't the typical way to pick up girls cause I had someone else help me out, but in my way of handling the dates and stuff, that's been explained here. So far everything has worked, although one thing I'm dealing with is over analyzing the situation. Man, it SUCKS when you have too much time to think about things, cause you end up killing your confidence. I'm building it back up to where it was so I should be okay, but we'll see. I'll know for sure Saturday if I want to keep things going with this girl. Anyway, just decided to post up an "experience" for you guys to see. This players guide is a great tool to build off of, and not just because of confidence. Women play games just as much as guys do, so learn how to play it right if you want to be successful dating. Good luck.