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Zeraph · 12-18-2005, 09:36 PM

One of my teachers had a black flower (not a rose) on her shirt, I didn't think to ask then, but then I saw it again on someone on TV. Both were on woman of either high power or high education...not sure if that has anything to do with it. Anyone know what Im talking about and what they mean? Oh, and theyre fake, not live flowers. They are semi big, maybe the size of your palm, they have many folds, and shorter than it is around.

Thanks.

fresnelly · 12-19-2005, 06:34 AM

I somehow doubt this is it, but the Manhattan Museum of Modern Art has an exhibit about clever safety objects, and one of the items is a bulletproof black rose brooch

The exhibit site is interactive and there are two ways to find a picture.

First, go to: http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/2005/safe/safe.html

After clicking "Begin", you'll see a field of single plant sprouts, in earthen mounds. If you click on a mound, you'll zoom in and see a few of the exhibit items. The rose is on on the mound directly between the mound with a grass lawn and picket fence, and the mound that has molten lava on it.

Or, you can click on "Index" in the lower right corner, and browse for "Ballistic Rose" under the B. That's a lot less fun.

Here's the credits:

<i>Ballistic Rose Brooch
By Tobias Wong

Ballistic Nylon, Velvet Leaves and silver pin
5” Diameter

Manufactured by Conduit Group USA </i>

alpha phi · 12-19-2005, 06:48 AM

Well It could be a symbol for a
clandestine female only secret society
.....

.....
Or maybe a fashion statement?

ratbastid · 12-19-2005, 07:21 AM

I think it means they're marked for death.

Astrocloud · 12-19-2005, 07:57 AM

Yes the black flower, a symbol of a woman on birth control. She's sending out her willingness to mate and not conceive.

JustJess · 12-19-2005, 08:02 AM

You've got to be making that up. Right? ... right??

maleficent · 12-19-2005, 08:07 AM

the black rose society is an organization that's kind of a support organization for people who are involved in alternative lifestyles - including
D&S,B&D, various fetishes, and cross-dressing. They have regular events and a beautiful 'ball' every year...

Sage · 12-19-2005, 08:10 AM

personally, I'd go for fashion statement.

The floppy, fake, looks like the cat threw it up flower made out of trendy material brooch is hot this year.

Zeraph · 12-19-2005, 11:06 AM

LOL and woa if it has anything to do with sex, my prof is in her 50s or 60s...not that there's anything wrong with that, just unexpected. I also doubt it is just a fashion statement, because she mentioned it had a meaning during a lecture. She said she got more respect when someone saw it. Also again, it is not a rose, or at least not the real life looking rose, although maybe it is called a rose even though it doesn't look like one.

Well looks like this may remain a mystery.

Oh and it looks different than the one in alpha phi's link.

pan6467 · 12-19-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeraph

LOL and woa if it has anything to do with sex, my prof is in her 50s or 60s...not that there's anything wrong with that, just unexpected. I also doubt it is just a fashion statement, because she mentioned it had a meaning during a lecture. She said she got more respect when someone saw it. Also again, it is not a rose, or at least not the real life looking rose, although maybe it is called a rose even though it doesn't look like one.

Well looks like this may remain a mystery.

Oh and it looks different than the one in alpha phi's link.

Why not just ask her? If she said it had a meaning, she more than likely would explain it.

Zeraph · 12-19-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pan6467

Why not just ask her? If she said it had a meaning, she more than likely would explain it.

Semester was over a couple weeks ago.

fresnelly · 12-19-2005, 07:10 PM

So, not the bulletproof brooch then? Because if it was, then maybe she was an assassin!

Zeraph · 12-19-2005, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fresnelly

So, not the bulletproof brooch then? Because if it was, then maybe she was an assassin!

One never knows

noodle · 12-19-2005, 07:44 PM

Was it just on one day? Because it was a symbol worn on the anniversary of John Lennon's death.

Also worn in honor of a loved one who is leaving for war or a journey for which s/he is not expected to return.

Depending on the women, it coulda been for the gothic/vampiric/bondage celebrations... even if your prof was 60. She may have a secret life.

Zeraph · 12-20-2005, 09:03 AM

I'm pretty sure she wore it a couple different times at least.

Elphaba · 12-21-2005, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeraph

LOL and woa if it has anything to do with sex, my prof is in her 50s or 60s...not that there's anything wrong with that, just unexpected.

Zeraph, you have so much to learn about people in their 50's or 60's.

Must run now... I'm off to ravage and get ravaged.

Willravel · 12-21-2005, 10:21 PM

I wore a black rose to a funeral once. It was simply meant as a sign of my quiet sorrow. Now that I've depressed everyone, I hope it is a sign for the whole bdsm thing. It'd be easier than looking in the persoanls.

12-18-2005, 09:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	Quick question about the meaning of a black flower One of my teachers had a black flower (not a rose) on her shirt, I didn't think to ask then, but then I saw it again on someone on TV. Both were on woman of either high power or high education...not sure if that has anything to do with it. Anyone know what Im talking about and what they mean? Oh, and theyre fake, not live flowers. They are semi big, maybe the size of your palm, they have many folds, and shorter than it is around. Thanks.

12-19-2005, 06:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
fresnelly Functionally Appropriate Location: Toronto	I somehow doubt this is it, but the Manhattan Museum of Modern Art has an exhibit about clever safety objects, and one of the items is a bulletproof black rose brooch The exhibit site is interactive and there are two ways to find a picture. First, go to: http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/2005/safe/safe.html After clicking "Begin", you'll see a field of single plant sprouts, in earthen mounds. If you click on a mound, you'll zoom in and see a few of the exhibit items. The rose is on on the mound directly between the mound with a grass lawn and picket fence, and the mound that has molten lava on it. Or, you can click on "Index" in the lower right corner, and browse for "Ballistic Rose" under the B. That's a lot less fun. Here's the credits: <i>Ballistic Rose Brooch By Tobias Wong Ballistic Nylon, Velvet Leaves and silver pin 5” Diameter Manufactured by Conduit Group USA </i> __________________ Building an artificial intelligence that appreciates Mozart is easy. Building an A.I. that appreciates a theme restaurant is the real challenge - Kit Roebuck - Nine Planets Without Intelligent Life

12-19-2005, 06:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
alpha phi seeker Location: home	Well It could be a symbol for a clandestine female only secret society .......... Or maybe a fashion statement? __________________ All ideas in this communication are sole property of the voices in my head. (C) 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 "The Voices" (TM). All rights reserved.

12-19-2005, 08:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
JustJess Unencapsulated Location: Kittyville	You've got to be making that up. Right? ... right?? __________________ My heart knows me better than I know myself, so I'm gonna let it do all the talkin'.

12-19-2005, 08:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	the black rose society is an organization that's kind of a support organization for people who are involved in alternative lifestyles - including D&S,B&D, various fetishes, and cross-dressing. They have regular events and a beautiful 'ball' every year... __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

12-19-2005, 07:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	I think it means they're marked for death.

12-19-2005, 07:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Astrocloud Apocalypse Nerd	Yes the black flower, a symbol of a woman on birth control. She's sending out her willingness to mate and not conceive.

12-19-2005, 08:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
Sage hoarding all the big girl panties since 2005 Location: North side	personally, I'd go for fashion statement. The floppy, fake, looks like the cat threw it up flower made out of trendy material brooch is hot this year. __________________ Sage knows our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's She answers hard acrostics, has a pretty taste for paradox She quotes in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus In conics she can floor peculiarities parabolous -C'hi

12-19-2005, 11:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	LOL and woa if it has anything to do with sex, my prof is in her 50s or 60s...not that there's anything wrong with that, just unexpected. I also doubt it is just a fashion statement, because she mentioned it had a meaning during a lecture. She said she got more respect when someone saw it. Also again, it is not a rose, or at least not the real life looking rose, although maybe it is called a rose even though it doesn't look like one. Well looks like this may remain a mystery. Oh and it looks different than the one in alpha phi's link.

12-19-2005, 07:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
fresnelly Functionally Appropriate Location: Toronto	So, not the bulletproof brooch then? Because if it was, then maybe she was an assassin! __________________ Building an artificial intelligence that appreciates Mozart is easy. Building an A.I. that appreciates a theme restaurant is the real challenge - Kit Roebuck - Nine Planets Without Intelligent Life

12-20-2005, 09:03 AM	#15 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	I'm pretty sure she wore it a couple different times at least.

12-21-2005, 10:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I wore a black rose to a funeral once. It was simply meant as a sign of my quiet sorrow. Now that I've depressed everyone, I hope it is a sign for the whole bdsm thing. It'd be easier than looking in the persoanls.