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maleficent 11-15-2005 06:13 AM

'Cool Mom' gets 30 years...
 
'Cool mom' gets 30 years for sex parties
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GOLDEN, Colorado (AP) -- A woman who authorities said had sex with high school boys during alcohol- and drug-fueled parties has been sentenced to 30 years in prison, officials said.

Silvia Johnson, 41, described herself to investigators as a "cool mom" who "was never popular with classmates in high school" and who was beginning to feel like one of the group.

She pleaded guilty in July to two misdemeanor counts of sexual assault and nine felony counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

She also was sentenced for additional charges of third-degree assault, violation of a restraining order and harassment for unrelated cases involving her husband and children, prosecution spokesman Carl Blesch said.

Authorities said Johnson held parties for the boys almost weekly between October 2003 and October 2004. They said Johnson provided drugs and alcohol to eight boys and had sex with five of them.

Johnson was to be sentenced on September 26, but the hearing was postponed after she was injured the day before while riding in an SUV that veered off an interstate.

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/LAW/11/1...coolmom.ap.jpg
Cool Mom is the blonde on the left...

Well Ok then... this woman is seriously disturbed... she wasn't popular in high school 25 years ago, and now was fitting in... Ummm.. sure...

laconic1 11-15-2005 07:17 AM

That has been big news around here. This woman seriously deserved what she got. The SUV crash mentioned in the article happened after she was convicted. The SUV was being driven by a fourteen year old. Even after being convicted of all the bad things she was doing, she still went right back to trying to be the cool mom, letting a fourteen year old drive down the interstate at 75 mph.

pandafaye 11-15-2005 07:25 AM

Wow. Maybe if she was a milf... but no, she did this because she wasn't... Yeah. This is definitely a weird case.

I want to know about the SUV accident. Was she so upset that she tried to kill herself, or does she just suck at driving?

edit: You're faster than me. Thanks for the info.

Redlemon 11-15-2005 07:27 AM

"I know it might be wrong, but
I'm in love with Stacy's mom"

stevie667 11-15-2005 07:40 AM

30 years?

That seems a bit harsh to me...

maleficent 11-15-2005 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by stevie667
30 years?

That seems a bit harsh to me...

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She also was sentenced for additional charges of third-degree assault, violation of a restraining order and harassment for unrelated cases involving her husband and children
I think those additional charges, while not as sexy as contributing the delinquency of a minor, were way more serious...

Bill O'Rights 11-15-2005 08:05 AM

"Mom" has definately got some serious issues, to say the least. So she "was never popular with classmates in high school". Big deal! Neither were most of us...we deal, or have dealt, with it in a manner that doesn't involve boinking teenagers. Ok, so she's not a "MILF". You still can't tell me that she couldn't get someone closer to her own age to make her feel...better. (Although, I'm kinda likin' her attorney. ;) )

highthief 11-15-2005 09:18 AM

I don't really mind that she got 30, but you see cases of violent rape and murder get less, so it seems a little out of whack in that sense.

Toaster126 11-15-2005 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by highthief
I don't really mind that she got 30, but you see cases of violent rape and murder get less, so it seems a little out of whack in that sense.

Indeed. 30 seems like too much when you compare it to other crimes that are more heinous but get lighter sentences.

Ustwo 11-15-2005 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Toaster126
Indeed. 30 seems like too much when you compare it to other crimes that are more heinous but get lighter sentences.

Or perhaps the glass is half empty?

Bill O'Rights 11-15-2005 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Or perhaps the glass is half empty?

True. True. Unfortunately, the prison system, on the other hand, is not.

Willravel 11-15-2005 10:56 AM

Plenty of people who were unpopular in high school went on to live successful lives.
http://www.rosecity.net/al_gore/tipper-al-gore.jpg

Ustwo 11-15-2005 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
True. True. Unfortunately, the prison system, on the other hand, is not.

I have multiple solutions for this, and amazingly none of them release the violent offenders early.

5757 11-15-2005 11:18 AM

I feel bad for her. I know there are several charges but 30 years in prison just seems like way too much.

She needs intensive counseling and maybe a few years behind bars.

Does anyone else think she looks like she is in her 60's?

I guess some people just simply cannot function in this world. She is a good example of a person that turns loony and ends up homeless and poor on the streets. Instead that happening, she is going to have a place to stay now. Prison. I guess the bum thing will come after prison.

She liked little teenage boys? Well she better get ready for the "ladies" now.

Ace_O_Spades 11-15-2005 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 5757
She liked little teenage boys? Well she better get ready for the "ladies" now.

female prisons aren't very violent. the sexual relationships are more voluntary. I don't think she'll be getting raped in prison.

Still think 30 years is too much for that. Murderers in Canada don't even stay in prison for 30 years

Poppinjay 11-15-2005 11:53 AM

As much as I think this woman needs counseling in a secure institution, I have to wonder what the F these teenage boys were thinking? I don't think I could have even begun to... function... with a woman like that.

theguyondacouch 11-15-2005 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Poppinjay
As much as I think this woman needs counseling in a secure institution, I have to wonder what the F these teenage boys were thinking? I don't think I could have even begun to... function... with a woman like that.

Well she did get them drunk.

I do believe she deserves jailtime, but 30 years is far too much.

Poppinjay 11-15-2005 12:28 PM

Drunk, even less so. It would be like throwing a vienna sausage down the freeway.

sailor 11-15-2005 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theguyondacouch
Well she did get them drunk.

I do believe she deserves jailtime, but 30 years is far too much.

I think like Mal said, it was the other charges that got her the bulk of the time. It's just these that are being more heavily reported on.

Himbo 11-15-2005 01:52 PM

Man, all this sympathy for this menace.

"She needs intensive counseling and maybe a few years behind bars. "

I'm sure these types of things would still be said had it been a 40 year old man and 15 year old girls right? Just give him some counselling and maybe two years in prision . . . .right . . . . .right?

It is a just sentence.

Bill O'Rights 11-15-2005 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I have multiple solutions for this, and amazingly none of them release the violent offenders early.

Would any of your solutions start with the words; "Ready, Aim...Fire!"?

Seriously...I have a few myself. But the key words rest more on "none of them release the violent offenders early.

BBtB 11-15-2005 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Himbo
Man, all this sympathy for this menace.

"She needs intensive counseling and maybe a few years behind bars. "

I'm sure these types of things would still be said had it been a 40 year old man and 15 year old girls right? Just give him some counselling and maybe two years in prision . . . .right . . . . .right?

It is a just sentence.

I probably would but I have gotten flack on other forums for being light against "sexual predators". The thing is she is not a serial rapist. She was clearly unpopular in high school, as she stated and I am inclinded to believe her.. and was not raised with good moral fiber herself. She does need counseling. In my opinon the only thing in question here is the length of the sentencing. I personally do believe it is excessive. I don't believe the other charges did subsationally add to her sentence her, the only one I could see doing that was assualt and though I have heard no details it was "third-degree" and considering that murder in the third degree doesn't always get 30 years I don't really think that is the case. I think it is moot though, that sentance will almost defintily come down in appeals, probably to half the current one. I would be shocked if she spent more then 10 years behind bars.

5757 11-15-2005 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Himbo
Man, all this sympathy for this menace.

"She needs intensive counseling and maybe a few years behind bars. "

I'm sure these types of things would still be said had it been a 40 year old man and 15 year old girls right? Just give him some counselling and maybe two years in prision . . . .right . . . . .right?

It is a just sentence.

Yeah, I wouldn't think a 30 year sentence wouldn't be so bad for a man. Just bein honest. The thing is, I don't think a woman can be as much of a sexual predator as a man. Women seem more harmless. They are more harmless than men. It all just depends. In this particular situation I just don't think she deserves that much time.

Like I said before, it would either be the street for a crazy person like her, or prison. Prison it is.[I]

Ustwo 11-15-2005 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
Would any of your solutions start with the words; "Ready, Aim...Fire!"?

Mmmmmmmmmmmm could be.

uncle phil 11-15-2005 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I have multiple solutions for this, and amazingly none of them release the violent offenders early.

couldn't have said it better myself...

Psycho Dad 11-15-2005 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
Would any of your solutions start with the words; "Ready, Aim...Fire!"?

I like to happily sing "Line them up against the wall and POP goes the weasle".

But seriously my main problem with this woman's sentencing is as others have mentioned, a good many violent offenders are not getting near the same punishment.

Ustwo 11-15-2005 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Dad
I like to happily sing "Line them up against the wall and POP goes the weasle".

But seriously my main problem with this woman's sentencing is as others have mentioned, a good many violent offenders are not getting near the same punishment.

The words one picks can be important.

Is the issue that it is unfair that she got 30 years or that others, perhaps more deserving get less?

I would change what you said to, the problem with violent offenders is they are not getting near the same punishment as this woman .

To me the problem is not that she got 30 years, hell because she is non-violent I would be surprised if she sees half that, but that others are not being punished enough.

Because of this, it doesn't mean we should go easier on this woman, but instead should go harder on others.

Psycho Dad 11-15-2005 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo
it doesn't mean we should go easier on this woman, but instead should go harder on others.

And that is where I want to go.

Gilda 11-15-2005 06:16 PM

30 years is a gift. She should never be getting out.

Gilda

BBtB 11-15-2005 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilda
30 years is a gift. She should never be getting out.

Gilda

I would really like to know the reasoning behind that

Gilda 11-15-2005 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BBtB
I would really like to know the reasoning behind that

Not reasoning, gut reaction.

I have neither sympathy nor tolerance for 40 year olds who get kids drunk and high and then have sex with them. Call me reactionary if you must.

Gilda

Himbo 11-15-2005 06:57 PM

"just bein honest. The thing is, I don't think a woman can be as much of a sexual predator as a man. Women seem more harmless. They are more harmless than men."

Hey I appreciate your honesty. But I will have to STRONGLY disagree with your above statement. In my opinion the reason you feel this way is the media and popular news go out of their way to make sure stories such as this where women are the ones doing the abusing are swept under the rug. Only very recently are we starting to see the opposite . . thank god.

Menoman 11-15-2005 07:11 PM

I would have to agree that 30 years is quite a bit too much.

I've personally seen it, where a man drunk drives, kills a mother of 2 and leaves the 2 children motherless. He got 2 years, 6 months already served.

Ustwo 11-15-2005 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Menoman
I would have to agree that 30 years is quite a bit too much.

I've personally seen it, where a man drunk drives, kills a mother of 2 and leaves the 2 children motherless. He got 2 years, 6 months already served.

What does one have to do with the other?

You could also argue that the drunk was acting irresponsibly but had no intent to commit homicide, while she knew exactly what her actions were.

cj22009 11-16-2005 05:29 AM

I think that 30 years is abit harsh. You can go out and murder someone and not get a sentance like that. What she done was wrong particuraly the sex with the minors. But me being a parent as far as the drinking goes I would rather my kids do it at home under my supervison than out god knows were my parents were like that I drank a few times and that was it I hardly ever drink now I have friends that their parents were super strict on that and they are achohlics now go figure.

stevie667 11-16-2005 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Himbo
I'm sure these types of things would still be said had it been a 40 year old man and 15 year old girls right? Just give him some counselling and maybe two years in prision . . . .right . . . . .right?

I'm inclined to think that this kind of predation would do alot more damage to a 15yr old girl than a 15yr old boy (who will probably have a grin for the rest of his life).

Considering all she did, i think 10yrs, tops, is a good sentance.

Val_1 11-16-2005 06:10 PM

I went to scholl with a guy that violently murdered someone and got 27 years. She is one messed up individual, but 30 years? I think counseling would do her (and society) more good.

Suave 11-17-2005 12:12 AM

The US should send all prisoners to an enormous compound in Arizona where they can duke it out on national television. Last one standing wins his freedom and a gift basket from Wal-Mart.

Psycho Dad 11-17-2005 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Suave
where they can duke it out on national television.

We've had about enough reality TV.

I can sum up where we need to start in two words... Chain gangs

little_tippler 11-17-2005 05:37 AM

30 years is way too much. In Portugal we have no death penalty and no life sentences - maximum time is 25 years.


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