Bill O'Rights

http://2worksforyou.com/news/stories/underwear.shtml

Remember that dream you had, as a kid? You know...the one where you forgot to get dressed and walked around school in your underwear? Well, here we have a teacher that brings it all to life.

Now, I wonder if he would've had to take off his costume if it were Mickey Mouse.
(Sorry, hadda do it before someone else did. )

Seriously though...what the hell?
A.) Why not just send the masked miscreant to the principal's office, and have Mom come to either pick him up, or drop him off some clothes?
B.) Mom maybe should've been a little more "up" on what's going on at her 5 year old's school?
C.) What kind of asshole makes a 5 year old walk around all day, in his underwear, at school? I'm not saying that it's a "sexual" thing, but it's kinda sick, twisted and demented.

So, is legal action warranted here? I'd say that "Mom" has a case. Maybe not against the school, but certainly against the teacher.

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Eweser

I don't know about other schools, but we weren't allowed to wear just our underwear. I think that would be worse than wearing the costume. Maybe discipline the kid or something, but not make them wear just their underwear all day.

I do agree though that "Mom" should have been a little more "up" on what was going on at school. Not sure about legal action, but maybe some sort of discipline for the teacher. (I'm totally into the word discipline appearantly.)

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maleficent

there's something ironic about not being able to wear costumes at Walt Disney....

I'm all about personal responsibility... but mom is the problem in this case, not the little miscreant... Mom approved this kids wardrobe before sending him off to school... Ignorance of the rules on mom's part is no excuse.. .Mom should be walking around in her underwear all day...

What lesson did the kid learn by having to wear his undies all day?

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Siege

Yes, it is the mom's fault for not knowing school policy, however, the way in which the child was disciplined was ridiculous. The teacher definitely needs to learn how to properly discipline a child.

BoR got it right. Would it be so hard to call a parent to take the kid home or drop off some clothes?

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Redlemon

"Monday", also known as Halloween. And you punish a 5 year old for that? Call the mom, have her bring in a change of clothes.

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Leto

Absolutely. Bring them to the office and call home. The school was grievously out of line in their reaction.

On a side note, my 7 year old's public school had a Hallowe'en day parade, where the primary kids were encouraged to wear costumes, and they went on a walkabout of the school to show them off to the intermediate and senior kids. then they went our into the school yard and paraded around the track for group pictures. The teachers were all dressed up too.

Interestingly, the TDSB (toronto district school board) had declared that Hallowe'en was to be refered to as 'spririt day' so as not to offend non-Christians (everybody from Hindu through Wiccan) in the system. The also advised the principals not to encourage costume wearing. But since our public school observes and promotes everything from Ede to Rosh Hashana to Divalli to Christmas, and all the other occasions in between, They decided to go ahead with the Hallowe'en parade this year.

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streak_56

Wow...... call the parents and tell them to change the clothes. The school had no right to make the child walk around in his undies. I am actually very offended by the schools actions.

fresnelly

I can't imagine a more humiliating and traumatic punishment for an elementary student. I hope he's a brave kid and can face the other students without being teased for the rest of his time at the school.

Surely the teacher could have come up with an alternate solution! Lose the cape, mask, gloves etc... What the hell happened to forced sitting in the front row or plain old detention?

I'm curious as to the teacher's reasoning and defence.

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Meditrina

Both the mom and the teacher are wrong in this case. As a parent, she should know the rules of the school and not send her kid to school in a costume. The way the teacher handled it was definitely out of line, and she should be reprimanded for it. And even though the mom was wrong, if she decides to sue I bet she wins something, due to the embarrassment of the child. That poor kid. I hope the others don't humiliate him too much, if he ever returns to school.

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flat5

What lesson did he learn?
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ratbastid

Really! He's not a hooligan, he's a cast member!

FatFreeGoodness

Consider two possible offenses, one wearing a Halloween costume to school, and the other coming to school with no clothes on. Which of the two is the more grievous?

Can you imagine that a trained teacher would EVER think it reasonable to order a child to strip and remain publicly undressed? Career-ending (even prison inducing) accusations are made of such things. (Can you spell “pedophile”? I knew you could!)

If Mom was the one at fault (for permitting the costume), why was the punishment directed at the child?

There is more here than the article tells us.

mystmarimatt

Well. This is certainly appalling.

For every moment I spent defending public education, there are always these instances, every so often, that make me smack my head. Instances that harm all of the good things that we could be hearing about.

When I was in elementary school, there was a similar occurrence. A mother had had a huge fight with her boyfriend that morning, and in a furious heat, grabbed her daughter and drove her to school still half-dressed, giving her daughter a blanket to cover the fact that she had no pants or shoes on.

The minute she walked into the classroom, the teacher noticed the girl's attire and that she was noticeably shook-up, took her up to the office and had the office ladies care for her until they were able to get ahold of a family member to come help.

Which is exactly what should have happened in this case. It's a pity the school couldn't find a compassionate solution to the problem.

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raeanna74

Call the parent. Even if she refuses to come get the kid or bring clothes there's still something they can do. Take the kid to the office, have him sit there all day long, give him detention, not recesses, plenty of other punishments. Only thing I can see is if the school rules were mailed directly to parents at the beginning of the school year and required to be returned signed by the parent before the end of the first week of school.

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ngdawg

I think the teacher was SO way out of line as to the point she should have been fired. Yes, the mom was a bit stupid for not knowing, but, like BoR said, that's like those horrible dreams we always had and as that kid's mom, I, personally would have been heard in the principal's office clear through to Disneyland (after I apologize for being ignorant of the rules, of course )

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infamous13

he was five, which means it is probably his first year there. How would his mother know unless she was told.

shesus

This is unacceptable on the schools part. Of course, we don't know if the mom was aware of the rule. I had some of my first graders come to school Monday in costumes. We have uniforms and I'm sure it wasn't allowed, but I let Spiderman and 2 princesses learn that day without ridicule or embarassment. Shame on this teacher. She made a poor, poor choice.
The mother should have been called to bring in a change of clothes. If the mom didn't come I don't see what the big deal was unless he had wings or a tail sticking off his costume. It's better to have the kid clothed than naked. Which is going to distract learning more? Take the mask away and let him learn. Poor kid is going to grow up to hate school and Halloween.
And Mal, I also find it ironic that a Disney school refuse costumes.

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JumpinJesus

First of all, even if it was the mother's fault, you don't punish the child. A five year old child does not pick his or her wardrobe. Secondly, if this story is true and the child did in fact walk around the school all day in his underwear, then the teacher needs to lose his/her job. Thirdly, you'd be amazed how many parents do not read the school discipline code that is sent home on the first day of every year and do not sign or return them.

Nah, I'm with the mother on this one. Not completely 100%, but about 90%. Taking legal action on behalf of her son I'd support 100%, though. We wonder why kids love school so much in kindergarten but by 4th grade they hate it. This is a pretty good - if extreme - example why.

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maleficent

I would imagine the little sprout was sent home with a code of conduct that mom was supposed to read...

The question that I wonder is -- what kind of underwear wsa this kid in -- was he in his little toddler fruit of the loom jockey shorts, or if it was a costume, and he was told to remove the costume... was he wearing long johns underneath? It's still underwear but it would bother me a lot less than seeing a 5 year old run around in his fruit of the looms.

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Dragonknight

I'd be beyond pissed if someone made my kid strip down and stay in school in just their underwear. At any school I've attended if there was a problem with a student and the dress code, the FIRST course of action would be to call the parents. There is flat out NO reason to have a child walk around in their underwear. That was horrible judgment on the teacher, and even worse on the principle for not flat out saying that it was wrong.

la petite moi

It shouldn't have anything to do with "does it bother people?" but more with the intent behind the teacher's actions. Even if it were long johns it's still embarassing for the child, and very stupid of the teacher.

little_tippler

ok...

a) it was halloween - kids wear costumes at that time - the school could have been more understanding and talked to the mother first, and let her know their policy and ask her to not let it happen again, instead of taking it out on the kid
b) it's sick to make a kid wear only his underwear all day and nothing else - it's wrong and he also could have become ill
c) in my school they had a lost property department and if you were wearing something inappropriate you would be told off and sent there to find something to serve as a substitute for that day
d) this experience may have traumatised the kid badly - the school and the teacher should know better and think of a more "positive" punishment - if it really is necessary.
e) the school was wrong and the mother should ask for a damn good explanation and apology. Even if she was supposed to know, to take it out on the kid in such a harsh and sick way is completely wrong.

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Himbo

I bet this same type of punishment would NEVER have happened to a little girl.

stevo

Definately. You cant make that kid go back to school with the other students and the teacher that humiliated him. He's a 5-yr old for heaven's sake! That child should be awarded enough for a private education through elementary school at least. That's several hundred thousand...The teacher should be fired.

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