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Slyboots · 10-30-2005, 04:05 PM

My aunt comes running to my house looking for my mom to take her to the hospital. My mom is no where to be seen, my and is going hysterical. I get on the phone with 911 when my aunt runs out into traffic yelling that her daughter can’t breathe. I go out running after her trying to calm her down and trying to get answers for the operator. My neighbor comes out and is like wtf is going on. I’m still trying to get answers from my aunt. She then runs off with my neighbor and is about to drive in the hospital. The operator is telling me that help is on the way and to tell my aunt to calm down.

By this time cars are stopping and people are coming of the houses trying to get my aunt to calm down. My neighbor is like "are they here yet, lets go now" I tell them to stop because I can hear the sirens coming. My mom stops in the middle of the street and gets to my aunts. My mom takes the stuff out of my lil cousins mouth.( she had flem in it or something) The 5 cop cars stop and take charge. My cousin is now breathing but is twitching. The fire department and the paramedics get here and they take over. My mom kinda ended up saving her since she turned my cousin over and sure her tongue didn't choke her

They just left for the hospital and now my neighbor is yelling at me that they should have gone to the hospital because it was faster that way. He is like "we can even go through red lights since its an emergency"

arg my hand ant stop shaking.

ngdawg · 10-30-2005, 04:21 PM

I'm sure she will be ok. But, to get on my soapbox for a minute:
EVERY parent should take CPR and first aid classes. Either do it while pregnant, preferrably, or immediately after birth. I have had to use what I learned twice on my own kids.
Every childbirth class or Lamaze class should include infant/child CPR , but they don't and I really don't understand why. They emphasize the baby's health, the baby's comfort....but not the baby in a life-threatening situation, so you get what you had-a totally panicked mother who had no clue what to do in this emergency.

cj2112 · 10-30-2005, 04:31 PM

Infant/Child First Aid & CPR should be a requirement when becoming a new parent. I too have had to use this, not only w/ my children but with somebody elses as well. I hope your cousin is doing well. I was married to an epelectic who had Grand Mal seizures, so if you have some questions, I'm willing to answer them the best I can.

raeanna74 · 10-30-2005, 07:44 PM

Wow - yeah I bet that was an adrenaline filled moment. Glad the little one is ok. From what I understand the siezure most likely won't be a repeat episode when it's caused by trauma like that. Keeping my fingers crossed for your little cousin.

And I will ditto the First Aid/CPR class comments. I need to go get recertified because now and then they change things or find new ways of doing stuff that works better. But simply knowing ABC is so calming and enabling in a situation like that.

I've seen hubby sieze and it's frightening so I can imagine your aunts distress. Glad other's jumped in to help. I'm sure you won't be forgetting this anytime soon.

Slyboots · 10-31-2005, 12:28 PM

She is better now. Seems its was caused by a fevor. Don't know when she will be able to leave the hospital.

maleficent · 10-31-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Slyboots

They just left for the hospital and now my neighbor is yelling at me that they should have gone to the hospital because it was faster that way. He is like "we can even go through red lights since its an emergency".

I wouldn't agree with the neighbor there, he'd have no idea what would happen in the car on the way to the hositpal with a sick child and and out of control mother... waiting for the paramedics was the right thing to do, paramedics have the knowledge and resources to care for the child that is in distress, not some cowboy running all the lights on the way to the hospital.

running lights? perhaps you wouldnt get a ticket after the fact, but I'd image the cops would give chase perhaps slowing him down on the way to the hospital, or god forbig, what if in his running of lights, he caused an accident or got into an accident himself.

Glad the kidlet is recovering, hopefully she won't be in the hospital long.

cj2112 · 10-31-2005, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Slyboots

She is better now. Seems its was caused by a fevor. Don't know when she will be able to leave the hospital.

This is exactly what caused my ex-wife to develop a seizure disorder, (encephalitis caused by an extremely high fever), best of luck to the kidlet and your family.

snowy · 10-31-2005, 06:22 PM

My brother had a grand mal seizure about five years ago, and my mother was recently diagnosed as epileptic. If there's one thing I've learned--seizures are more common than you think.

Seriously, though...your aunt needs to learn to handle herself in an emergency, otherwise she'll just make things worse. People who freak out about the situation don't help it any. I hope someone points that out to her--next time it could be something more serious. I understand how scary seizures can be--the last petit mal my mother had she choked on some toast she had been eating and my dad had to risk getting his fingers bit in order to fish it out of her mouth (fortunately he's a former lifeguard, but still, it was scary). But there are times when a deep breath in the face of fear is most necessary.

JumpinJesus · 10-31-2005, 09:17 PM

Glad to hear she's okay, slyboots. I hate scares like that. I'll send some positive thoughts her way.

thatoneguy · 10-31-2005, 09:54 PM

My brother was diagnosed with epilepsy when he was in grade school. He had two or three incidents where he had seizures in school, it was pretty scary there for a while, I can't imagine how my parents must have felt (I'm only 2 years older, so I don't recall exactly).

It can definitely be frightening, so I guess I can understand why your aunt panicked like that, but wow... that's a little overboard. Hopefully now that the initial shock is over she can learn about it and learn what she should/shouldn't do if it a recurring thing, or for any other emergencies.

Just reading this makes me want to take a CPR class... I don't think I'd freak out in a situation like that, but I don't have any real training and I wouldn't really know what to do either.

Good luck to your family Slyboots, hope everything is ok in the end.

Lead543 · 10-31-2005, 10:24 PM

I'm glad to hear she's okay too. And kudos to your mom for helping out with her.

FngKestrel · 10-31-2005, 10:25 PM

Yikes, that sounded like a horrific experience. It sounds like you and your mom were at least level headed enough to save your cousin's life. And yeah, your neighbor is totally whack. He would not have right-of-way indicators and would most likely end up in an accident himself.

Slyboots · 11-01-2005, 03:53 PM

I just got home from the bowling alley and my mom told my that my cousin got released from the hospital. She fine now but she going to back in a few days for a check up. They gave my aunt some lessons on how to handle my cousin again is she has another seizure. Lets just pray she wont.

Thanks guy for all you postive thoughts!

<3 TFP.

highthief · 11-01-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

I wouldn't agree with the neighbor there, he'd have no idea what would happen in the car on the way to the hositpal with a sick child and and out of control mother... waiting for the paramedics was the right thing to do, paramedics have the knowledge and resources to care for the child that is in distress, not some cowboy running all the lights on the way to the hospital.

running lights? perhaps you wouldnt get a ticket after the fact, but I'd image the cops would give chase perhaps slowing him down on the way to the hospital, or god forbig, what if in his running of lights, he caused an accident or got into an accident himself.

Glad the kidlet is recovering, hopefully she won't be in the hospital long.

Yup, as long as you aren't in the middle of the countryside, always wait for the ambulance. You get yourself and others killed running reds while distracted by a seizing child.

ophelia783 · 11-01-2005, 06:42 PM

I've been epileptic for 14 years, and was diagnosed with absence seizures at 8. While I do not suffer from grand-mal, nor was it a one-time sort of deal, if there's any questions you or your family may have, feel free to IM me.

Nimetic · 11-02-2005, 11:16 PM

I'm wondering how old the child is? Look I'm not an expert, but I did previously do volunteer first aid work, and teaching.

The thing is - little kids fairly commonly have seizures in response to infection and/or heat (from memory). So... it is quite possible that this is not going to be a re-occurring thing.

Slyboots · 11-03-2005, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nimetic

I'm wondering how old the child is? Look I'm not an expert, but I did previously do volunteer first aid work, and teaching.

The thing is - little kids fairly commonly have seizures in response to infection and/or heat (from memory). So... it is quite possible that this is not going to be a re-occurring thing.

She 1 yr 8 months. They kind of helped my aunt out by teaching her how to handle it something like this next time. So far she is doing pretty well but she doesn't have a lot of strength back. Thanks for all you support guys. It means a lot of me.

Nimetic · 11-13-2005, 03:44 PM

No problems.

Just some notes

- a febrile seizure is a convulsion brought on by high fever
- approx 2 to 5 pct of children will have such an episode (!)
- peak incidence is in children 9 to 20 months of age, but seizures can be seen
up to the age of 5 to 6 years
- seizures seem to relate to severity of the fever and the rate of temperature rise

For the record, this was from Nancy Caroline "Emergency Medical Treatment 3rd Edn", 1991, US publisher. I've picked what seem like key points.

I hope I've done an accurate job of summarizing.

Please check current references though for advice on first aid. This really is an area which changes yearly. But the most basic points I think are

- Look, think, consider hazards to you, others
(cars? possible electrocution?)
- Maintain a clear airway... ie nose/mouth
- Do not put anything in the mouth
- Arrange for help.

There're a few other things... but stick with getting the basics covered I reckon.

10-30-2005, 04:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Slyboots Tilted Location: Newbury Park, California	My little cousin had a seizure today. My aunt comes running to my house looking for my mom to take her to the hospital. My mom is no where to be seen, my and is going hysterical. I get on the phone with 911 when my aunt runs out into traffic yelling that her daughter can’t breathe. I go out running after her trying to calm her down and trying to get answers for the operator. My neighbor comes out and is like wtf is going on. I’m still trying to get answers from my aunt. She then runs off with my neighbor and is about to drive in the hospital. The operator is telling me that help is on the way and to tell my aunt to calm down. By this time cars are stopping and people are coming of the houses trying to get my aunt to calm down. My neighbor is like "are they here yet, lets go now" I tell them to stop because I can hear the sirens coming. My mom stops in the middle of the street and gets to my aunts. My mom takes the stuff out of my lil cousins mouth.( she had flem in it or something) The 5 cop cars stop and take charge. My cousin is now breathing but is twitching. The fire department and the paramedics get here and they take over. My mom kinda ended up saving her since she turned my cousin over and sure her tongue didn't choke her They just left for the hospital and now my neighbor is yelling at me that they should have gone to the hospital because it was faster that way. He is like "we can even go through red lights since its an emergency" arg my hand ant stop shaking. __________________ "Ah, yes, divorce......., from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet." -- Robin Williams

10-30-2005, 04:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
ngdawg peekaboo Location: on the back, bitch	I'm sure she will be ok. But, to get on my soapbox for a minute: EVERY parent should take CPR and first aid classes. Either do it while pregnant, preferrably, or immediately after birth. I have had to use what I learned twice on my own kids. Every childbirth class or Lamaze class should include infant/child CPR , but they don't and I really don't understand why. They emphasize the baby's health, the baby's comfort....but not the baby in a life-threatening situation, so you get what you had-a totally panicked mother who had no clue what to do in this emergency. __________________ Don't blame me. I didn't vote for either of'em.

10-30-2005, 07:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	Wow - yeah I bet that was an adrenaline filled moment. Glad the little one is ok. From what I understand the siezure most likely won't be a repeat episode when it's caused by trauma like that. Keeping my fingers crossed for your little cousin. And I will ditto the First Aid/CPR class comments. I need to go get recertified because now and then they change things or find new ways of doing stuff that works better. But simply knowing ABC is so calming and enabling in a situation like that. I've seen hubby sieze and it's frightening so I can imagine your aunts distress. Glad other's jumped in to help. I'm sure you won't be forgetting this anytime soon. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

10-31-2005, 12:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Slyboots Tilted Location: Newbury Park, California	She is better now. Seems its was caused by a fevor. Don't know when she will be able to leave the hospital. __________________ "Ah, yes, divorce......., from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet." -- Robin Williams

10-31-2005, 06:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
snowy Kick Ass Kunoichi Location: Oregon	My brother had a grand mal seizure about five years ago, and my mother was recently diagnosed as epileptic. If there's one thing I've learned--seizures are more common than you think. Seriously, though...your aunt needs to learn to handle herself in an emergency, otherwise she'll just make things worse. People who freak out about the situation don't help it any. I hope someone points that out to her--next time it could be something more serious. I understand how scary seizures can be--the last petit mal my mother had she choked on some toast she had been eating and my dad had to risk getting his fingers bit in order to fish it out of her mouth (fortunately he's a former lifeguard, but still, it was scary). But there are times when a deep breath in the face of fear is most necessary. __________________ If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau

10-30-2005, 04:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	Infant/Child First Aid & CPR should be a requirement when becoming a new parent. I too have had to use this, not only w/ my children but with somebody elses as well. I hope your cousin is doing well. I was married to an epelectic who had Grand Mal seizures, so if you have some questions, I'm willing to answer them the best I can.

10-31-2005, 09:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	Glad to hear she's okay, slyboots. I hate scares like that. I'll send some positive thoughts her way. __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses

10-31-2005, 09:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
thatoneguy Crazy Location: Omaha, NE	My brother was diagnosed with epilepsy when he was in grade school. He had two or three incidents where he had seizures in school, it was pretty scary there for a while, I can't imagine how my parents must have felt (I'm only 2 years older, so I don't recall exactly). It can definitely be frightening, so I guess I can understand why your aunt panicked like that, but wow... that's a little overboard. Hopefully now that the initial shock is over she can learn about it and learn what she should/shouldn't do if it a recurring thing, or for any other emergencies. Just reading this makes me want to take a CPR class... I don't think I'd freak out in a situation like that, but I don't have any real training and I wouldn't really know what to do either. Good luck to your family Slyboots, hope everything is ok in the end. __________________ "Thank you for flying Church of England, cake or death?"

10-31-2005, 10:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
Lead543 Registered User Location: Calgary	I'm glad to hear she's okay too. And kudos to your mom for helping out with her.

10-31-2005, 10:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
FngKestrel Junkie	Yikes, that sounded like a horrific experience. It sounds like you and your mom were at least level headed enough to save your cousin's life. And yeah, your neighbor is totally whack. He would not have right-of-way indicators and would most likely end up in an accident himself.

11-01-2005, 03:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
Slyboots Tilted Location: Newbury Park, California	I just got home from the bowling alley and my mom told my that my cousin got released from the hospital. She fine now but she going to back in a few days for a check up. They gave my aunt some lessons on how to handle my cousin again is she has another seizure. Lets just pray she wont. Thanks guy for all you postive thoughts! <3 TFP. __________________ "Ah, yes, divorce......., from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet." -- Robin Williams

11-01-2005, 06:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
ophelia783 Insane Location: West Virginia	I've been epileptic for 14 years, and was diagnosed with absence seizures at 8. While I do not suffer from grand-mal, nor was it a one-time sort of deal, if there's any questions you or your family may have, feel free to IM me. __________________ ~~ He with a sharp tongue slits his own throat ~~

11-02-2005, 11:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
Nimetic Junkie Location: Melbourne, Australia	I'm wondering how old the child is? Look I'm not an expert, but I did previously do volunteer first aid work, and teaching. The thing is - little kids fairly commonly have seizures in response to infection and/or heat (from memory). So... it is quite possible that this is not going to be a re-occurring thing.

11-13-2005, 03:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
Nimetic Junkie Location: Melbourne, Australia	No problems. Just some notes - a febrile seizure is a convulsion brought on by high fever - approx 2 to 5 pct of children will have such an episode (!) - peak incidence is in children 9 to 20 months of age, but seizures can be seen up to the age of 5 to 6 years - seizures seem to relate to severity of the fever and the rate of temperature rise For the record, this was from Nancy Caroline "Emergency Medical Treatment 3rd Edn", 1991, US publisher. I've picked what seem like key points. I hope I've done an accurate job of summarizing. Please check current references though for advice on first aid. This really is an area which changes yearly. But the most basic points I think are - Look, think, consider hazards to you, others (cars? possible electrocution?) - Maintain a clear airway... ie nose/mouth - Do not put anything in the mouth - Arrange for help. There're a few other things... but stick with getting the basics covered I reckon.