maximusveritas

Freedom of speech is one of this reasons this country is so great. This guy has the right to say his garbage just like the Neo-Nazis do. Then we get to laugh at them.
The best thing to do with things like this is ignore it.

Suave

Well like I said, he completely blew everything out of proportion, but the basics of colonialism are correct in my view (whether or not he actually sees it that way ). Some very stupid people can say some pretty insightful (or in this case, relatively obvious) things without knowing it.

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FatFreeGoodness

BBtT suggests that other “ignorant” people “really need to restudy history and this time pay a little closer attention” to understand where this guy in coming from.
However, he also indicated that did not know the current year: “Even today, in the year 2006(?), and yes, racism still abounds.”
This, despite being logged on to the internet at the time.

This gives me pause before I trust his deeper understanding of history.

MSD

What I consider to be one of the greatest things about my country is that not only are we not passing laws restricting speech, but that the government cannot pass laws restricting speech. Once we give them the power to decide what we can and can't say, there's no way to guarantee that the power will not be abused.

I am proud to live in a country where people can hear this ignorance for themselves and judge it on its own merit instead of based on an arbitrary limit on what we are permitted to say.

dlish

sorry mr selfdestruct but though i agree with you on principle, i cannot agree with you here.

here we have a guy who says that white people should be exterminated. ok so the guy has his freedom to say what he likes as he pleases to a group of people, but there are limits on what you can say..especially to masses.. we all know the power of influencial talkers..hitler was one of them...and he did try and exterminate a race. to to incite murder would be illegal in any country..US included. hell, bin laden called for the death of all americans...why is this guys call any different??

i bed to differ on your freedom of speech. there have been plenty of people jailed since 911 in the us and other european countries for exactly that..freedom of speech. if you care i could give you some examples.

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meembo

I couldn't agree more. This speaker reminds me of that bonehead from Kansas, Fred Phelps, and his band of idiots that go around protesting at funerals of dead soldiers -- they are all in the same group, blind, angry, spitting with hate, destructive. Their ridiculous and dangerous speech belongs out in the open, out in the sunlight, where it is seen for what it is. The most dangerous thing to do with these ideas is to try to bury them. No law or punishment can ever legislate these ideas from people's minds, and the only way to combat them is out in the open. There is no other way. Putting people in jail simply for what they say is tyranny.

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meembo

A free society allows hateful speech to be challenged and debated out in the open, among all citizens. Thus we preserve the autonomy of our news media as much as we do in the United States, and we castigate the press not aggressive enough with the officials who yield power. President Bush had a terrible September and October, not only because of natural events, but mostly because of the stinging criticism of his administration's reactions to disasters, vacancies in the courts, and the behavior of his staff in the White House. Free speech provided that forum, and free speech is the check against any power used wrongly in our government.

As for bin Laden and those like him -- their speech is tied to criminal behavior. Their speech was monitored but largely tolerated in the US before 9-11, but inciting speech tied to those mass murders can never be considered innocent today. The guy in the video, if ever tied to a murder, will quickly be prosecuted for his role in the act of a demonstrable crime, the same way the Aryan Nation leaders were prosecuted for their roles in hate crimes about 5 years a go in the US. (link)

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dlish

meembo.. i like your thoughts and logic. however id have to disagree with out on one point...

[QUOTE=meembo] Thus we preserve the autonomy of our news media as much as we do in the United States...QUOTE]


in regards to media maniupulation and control, the US would be the grandmaster! this isnt the political forum so ill keep it short..an example is the media embedded with the troops in iraq. other than that i would agree witha l you said.

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