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Old 10-05-2005, 12:43 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Anyone who would assault and batter you for not buying her a drink is not worth buying a drink for. Behavior like that is obscene and should not be tolerated by society to the extent that it is (but it is at least illegal, if tolerated).
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:11 PM   #42 (permalink)
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You should have gotten up after she hit you, and then said in a really loud voice: "You didn't really expect me to pay 50 bucks to sleep with you?"

Cause if you just spilled a small amount of her drink there would be no reason to buy her a new one, and her making a demand for one was rude, and your response was rude as well, her response hurt your body, so your's should have at least hurt her pride....
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:26 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Two quick thoughts: $12.00 for a drink? You gotta be kidding me?

Second were the words of wisdom from my own mother: "Son, you don't hit ladies. But if a girl hits you, she's no lady. Defend yourself."
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:36 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Two quick thoughts: $12.00 for a drink? You gotta be kidding me?

Second were the words of wisdom from my own mother: "Son, you don't hit ladies. But if a girl hits you, she's no lady. Defend yourself."


good advice!

surprised not more comments on a effing 12$ drink! would be an expensive night on the town if that was your beverage of choice.
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Old 10-05-2005, 01:37 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Second were the words of wisdom from my own mother: "Son, you don't hit ladies. But if a girl hits you, she's no lady. Defend yourself."
Your mother is a fine broad.

At some point, all of these "aggressive girls" will need to learn that it isnt wise to hit somone bigger than you, nevermind gender. Law of nature- bigger people hit harder.

Im sorry if my opinion offends some people but that stupid bitch needs a smack down. You cant go around hitting people over words said in a bar. FUCK THAT.....DO NOT TOUCH ME YOU CUNT.
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Old 10-05-2005, 02:33 PM   #46 (permalink)
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This is one of those damned if you do damned if you don't situations. Were you to have hit her back (which I think you did best in not doing), you would have likely at the least had a bouncer in your face or at the most some guy on your back later after she went and told him how you "abused" her.
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Old 10-05-2005, 02:51 PM   #47 (permalink)
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i woulda been like bitch heres 2 dollars for your troubles
then hocked a loogie on it
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Old 10-05-2005, 07:37 PM   #48 (permalink)
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1. Girl was obviously looking for a fight.

2. After the punch, acceptable options were:

a) Pour rest of drink on her and/or
b) Open handed slap (a good one) to her face.

3. Depart bar immediately.

Right now, girl is probably still bragging about it, and looking forward to doing it again. The drink and slap would have cured her.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:11 AM   #49 (permalink)
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I would have just starting buying drinks all night and told the bartender to put it on her tab.

Best suggestion so far!!
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:33 AM   #50 (permalink)
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$12 drinks are not that expensive.. if you like good liqour
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Old 10-06-2005, 07:01 AM   #51 (permalink)
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That's an interesting story.

1) I love the comment about her being an English teacher.

2) You were rude in the first place.

3) She was out of line by far

4) Hitting her wouldn't have solved the problem.

It's easy for us to sit here and think up a well thought out response. I'm sure in the 2.8 seconds or whatever it took for this too happen, you were more shocked than anything. I really don't know what I would have done. I probably would have smacked the shit out of her hand at that point, knocking drink out of her hand and all over her and then saying some smartass comment like, "NOW I owe you $12. BITCH."
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Old 10-06-2005, 09:35 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Did you by anychance see the punch coming?

If you did should have cought it, I did that once to my GF, just made her more angry
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Old 10-06-2005, 04:32 PM   #53 (permalink)
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So I'm standing at the bar at Liquid in Albury on Saturday night buying a drink, when I spun around and knocked this chicks cocktail. Didn't knock it over, just knocked about 5mm off the top. This exchange takes place:

Chick: You fucken idiot, that's a $12 cocktail. You gunna buy me a new one now?
If you would have substituted a "I'm sorry for spilling your drink. What were you drinking, I'd like to buy you another?" The everybody would have been happy, and you would have saved face a little.

You learned a lesson here...some chicks hit. Some chicks hit pretty damn good too. IMO you goofed when you spilled her drink, and you made it even worse with a cocky answer to her question which pushed her buttons. Before you spout off with some cocky comment, maybe you should think about how the person might respond. You spilled her drink, therefore you should replace it. If you didn't want to replace it you could have just said, "Sorry about that" and started walking. I am not defending the woman for hitting you, because I think she was wrong...but when you mix some people with alcohol, you get instant asshole, and that is to be expected sometimes in a bar. Good thing you didn't hit her too...the one good thing you did was walk away. Since you didn't want to replace her drink....walking away was the only choice.

Judging from her reaction... the evening still would have been shitty if you mentioned her to the management, or worse - hit her back. Either one would have gotten you a bunch of shit from either her friends, or others, or both.

Live and learn fella....and be more careful when "spining around" at a bar.


PS: I would have offered to buy her a drink...even though it was an accident. I have learned the hard way that when you are in a bar, theres's a good chance the people you may have to deal with are either drunk, or assholes, or both...and sometimes it is just best to swallow a little pride, just to keep the rest of the evening from being ruined.
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Old 10-06-2005, 04:59 PM   #54 (permalink)
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If you would have substituted a "I'm sorry for spilling your drink. What were you drinking, I'd like to buy you another?" The everybody would have been happy, and you would have saved face a little.
But this still wasn't all his fault. Had she not called him a "fucken idiot" and asked him to buy her another one instead of asking IF he was going to buy another one he may have not taken the tone he did.
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Old 10-06-2005, 05:10 PM   #55 (permalink)
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"If a man attacks you, you attack back. If a woman attacks you, you restrain her. If restraining her is impossible, keep your honor, stuff your pride and walk away. Your body will heal, strike a woman in any way and your honor will never forgive you."
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Old 10-06-2005, 08:08 PM   #56 (permalink)
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But this still wasn't all his fault. Had she not called him a "fucken idiot" and asked him to buy her another one instead of asking IF he was going to buy another one he may have not taken the tone he did.

Never said it was.... all I said was he contributed to it with his reply. And, when he took the tone he did...it was him that got hit, and it is him posting this thread and wondering what the hell happened.

In a bar, with alcohol, someone has to be the adult. Apparently it wasn't her. Since he did bump into her and spill her drink, it was only right that he offer to replace her drink, or leave right then and there. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see she was pissed from the start. Whether he expected her to swing or not, he should have acted proactively instead of reactively like the woman did. He could very well have diffused the situation had he not egged her on with his reply. It isn't about assigning blame....because if it was, really she was at fault. But, you gotta pick your battles in this life, and this incident wasn't a battle. If he's gonna frequent bars, and there's nothing wrong with doing so, then he's gonna have to either learn how to deal with similar situations better, or improve his reflexes...otherwise reacting like he did, he'll be in a similar situation sooner or later. It's to his benefit he learns how to deal with irate women, or put on a catcher's mask ... which would be easier?

What's he gonna do if one day in the future his (future) wife gets pissed off and slaps him? Knock her out? Then say ...well she slapped me and she was out of line, so I knocked her on her ass. He won't be married for long. Women aren't always right....and the way to deal with them is not to duke it out with them, but rather keep a cool head and be the one who is thinking rationally.
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Old 10-06-2005, 08:27 PM   #57 (permalink)
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in all honesty.. i would have been so pissed i would have hit the bitch back..make her think twice about hitting the next fella.

seems like shes making a habit out of it, so id assume all the blokes she's done that to havent hit her back.

if i hit someone..male or female id expect something in return..if there is nothing, then id be more likely to re-offend..

just one other thing..if that were a guy punching a chick like that, this place would have been up in arms about this whole thing....double standards set by society.
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Old 10-06-2005, 10:42 PM   #58 (permalink)
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What's he gonna do if one day in the future his (future) wife gets pissed off and slaps him? Knock her out?
I think the two situations are completely different - I'd hope he will have more of a relationship with his wife than some random drink spiller.

She was out of line - how many times are drinks spilt in a bar (especially one with lots of people in it). No-one is to blame for a spilt drink.

I wouldn't hit her, though (mostly cause I avoid conflict).
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Old 10-06-2005, 10:56 PM   #59 (permalink)
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I think the two situations are completely different - I'd hope he will have more of a relationship with his wife than some random drink spiller.

She was out of line - how many times are drinks spilt in a bar (especially one with lots of people in it). No-one is to blame for a spilt drink.

I wouldn't hit her, though (mostly cause I avoid conflict).
Well I agree the two situations are different. On that note what I was trying to say was that it isn't necessary to hit a woman. Only if a man is in serious fear of bodily harm or worse should he ever hit a woman...other than that I can't think of reason to hit a woman.

True...drinks do get spilled in bars...it's inevitable. But, I was speaking more to the idea of him being the adult and avoiding conflict in a place where alcohol is consumed...in a situation where provoking her even more would only be disastrous. He didn't do too bad....and I tend to get long winded, but I think he knew the answers to his questions before he even asked. I just think he was looking for confirmation. Had he just held his tongue a little better..whether he offered to buy a drink or not, it's entirely possible his jaw wouldn't be hurting.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:19 PM   #60 (permalink)
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You should've thrown her drink in her face.
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Old 10-07-2005, 05:50 AM   #61 (permalink)
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She was in the wrong entirely. Perhaps it wasn't exactly "polite" for you to refuse to buy her a drink, but she was just as bad for telling you that you had to.

Her punching you was entirely unjustified, but I think it's for the best that you didn't hit her back. Not because she's a chick, (I mean, if she thinks that she can hit whoever she wants, just 'cause she doesn't have a penis, then she's asking for it) but because it wouldn't be worth the explaination to everyone else there.

I don't think I'd be any more upset by a guy hitting me than a girl, except for the fact that guys generally (only generally) hit harder.

Hah, and after all of this "don't hit her back" I know that if someone punched me like that, I'd try my hardest to make them hurt. -_-
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Old 10-07-2005, 01:11 PM   #62 (permalink)
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if you go to a bar and don't expect to get some liquor on you by the end of the night.. you're going to the wrong bars. It happens.. you deal with it. Have a good time. She was just looking for free drinks.
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Old 10-07-2005, 08:25 PM   #63 (permalink)
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am so against guys hitting girls, but once when i was in junior high, i had a girl walk up to me and kick me in the balls just for a laugh. i had done nothing to her, she just thought it was funny. so after i rolled around on the 7-11 parking lot for about 10 minutes, i got up walked up behind her, tapped her on the shoulder and when she turned around i kicked her square in her box. she dropped like a sack of potatos. needless to say, i never heard of her kicking anyone in the nuts again all through high school.

thats my manhood your messin with there, a mans gotta draw the line somewhere.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:30 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Completely off of how I feel in all actuality, but I think it's a funny thought;
What you do, she yells for spilling the drink and you politely say "Oh of course I'll buy you a new drink, I'm so sorry about that" then get up, order whatever she had, then just walk off with it.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:35 AM   #65 (permalink)
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you're no kind of a man if you hit a girl. Thats just my opinion, but I would like to think the decent opinion of humankind would agree.
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:36 AM   #66 (permalink)
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am so against guys hitting girls, but once when i was in junior high, i had a girl walk up to me and kick me in the balls just for a laugh. i had done nothing to her, she just thought it was funny. so after i rolled around on the 7-11 parking lot for about 10 minutes, i got up walked up behind her, tapped her on the shoulder and when she turned around i kicked her square in her box. she dropped like a sack of potatos. needless to say, i never heard of her kicking anyone in the nuts again all through high school.

thats my manhood your messin with there, a mans gotta draw the line somewhere.
I dont even know if I wanna say "no offense", but that just ABH.
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Old 10-08-2005, 09:52 AM   #67 (permalink)
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$12 isn't that bad for a drink. SC uses mini bottles, so if you ever come here and order a drink that has 2 liquors, you're looking at $8-16 for just the drink. A screaming orgasm (5 liquors) is about $30.

Anyway, i liked the idea of just standing up after she punched youa nd yelling, "no, i would not sleep with you for $50, how about $15"
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:13 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Yes, but the mini bottles are 1.5 oz. That means that for the $8-16, you're getting 3 oz of alcohol versus 2 oz somewhere that doesn't use mini bottles.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:11 AM   #69 (permalink)
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My first reaction would be to apologize and offer to buy her another drink, but if she called me a fucking idiot before I had the opportunity to be nice, then my mindset would change dramatically. I would have to refrain myself from calling her something extremely offensive. And if she punched me in the face for not reacting well to her rudeness, then I would spill MY drink right between her tits and wait for her boyfriend to intervene, because I would be good and ready to do some punching of my own by then.
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Old 10-08-2005, 03:59 PM   #70 (permalink)
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you're no kind of a man if you hit a girl. Thats just my opinion, but I would like to think the decent opinion of humankind would agree.

since when did it come down to being 'no kind of man' for a male returning an unjust favour. what ever happened to justice and equality. being male or female has nothing to do with it.

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Old 10-08-2005, 04:41 PM   #71 (permalink)
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you're no kind of a man if you hit a girl. Thats just my opinion, but I would like to think the decent opinion of humankind would agree.

Because girls are the weaker sex?

Well just come out and say it woman, say "I am the weaker sex"

If you don't want to say it, then take a punch in the face if you do something to deserve it.
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:29 PM   #72 (permalink)
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"weaker sex". Right.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:39 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Old 10-09-2005, 12:50 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Because girls are the weaker sex?

Well just come out and say it woman, say "I am the weaker sex"

If you don't want to say it, then take a punch in the face if you do something to deserve it.
oh, so much aggression!

I am, by the way, (1) not a woman (2) probably bigger than you... but I personally wouldn't get into discussing the chances of you being able to punch me in the mouth or not on an internet forum. It would just be silly.
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Old 10-09-2005, 01:38 AM   #75 (permalink)
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if you go to a bar and don't expect to get some liquor on you by the end of the night.. you're going to the wrong bars. It happens.. you deal with it. Have a good time. She was just looking for free drinks.
I was thinking the exact same thing. When I go to the bars, they are crowded and navigating through the crowds means you're going to bump into people, and people are going to bump into you. The only ones who make a huge deal about things are those looking for free drinks or a fight.

In my neck of the woods...
1. a little bit of liquid sloshing out when someone bumps into you is not a "spill," it's no big deal. A spill is when someone really slams into you and causes a sizeable portion of your drink to exit the glass it was previously in.
2. If you can't afford to have a little spill out, you're drinking beyond your means.
3. It's considered bad form to advertise how expensive your drink is/was. It doesn't impress people, it makes you look like a pretentious piece of shit.
4. The area right by the bar is a very high traffic area, so you order, pay, and get the fuck out of the way. If you feel the need to hang out right in front of this area, don't be suprised if you get knocked into. After all, you're obstructing the flow of traffic.
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"weaker sex". Right.
I never said they were the weaker sex.

I was implying, that you can't be equal in everything, AND be favored in certain situations.

It would be immunity in situations just like the one he posted to do whatever you wanted, just like the bitch did. You don't just jack someone in the face and expect no consequences.



I don't really care if I could punch you or not Strange_Famous, you probably are bigger than me, although that means very little when it comes to knowing how to fight.
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Old 10-09-2005, 09:41 AM   #77 (permalink)
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You can be equal and different.

I am sure there are women out there who are stronger than me, who know martial arts that I don't, and who could kick the shit out of me if they wanted to. I was brought up that boys dont hit girls, and men dont hit women. I've never been punched by a women, but I have been slapped, and it never entered my head to hit her back.

Men and women are entitled to equal rights, equal pay, equal rights to access to children, and opportunity, and education, and God, and everything else... but that doesnt mean that men and women are the same. If the woman in the case of this thread hit the dude, clearly she was out of control and probably should have been asked to leave the club, but there are certain standards and certain things that I and many people hold to be moral and hold above the "its a free for all and anyone can get what I give them" attitude.

And I would add, merely as guidance... that if I saw a dude punch a girl in a club, or any situation - without me having ANY idea of the context or who started it there is a high chance I would intervene with as much force as I could muster. And Im not trying to get into a whole macho bullshit thing about it... Im sure all y'all are better fighters than me and would kick my ass or whatever, but I would say if you go around hitting girls, there is a very high probability someone will put you on your arse or a lot worse... and, up to a point, I dont see it as a bad thing.
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Old 10-09-2005, 09:45 AM   #78 (permalink)
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This is more a motto some try to live by than it is an actual fact.
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Old 10-09-2005, 09:57 AM   #79 (permalink)
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This is more a motto some try to live by than it is an actual fact.
what else can I say. Ive never hit a women and I would hate it if I ever did. I cant say that there are no circumstances in which it could ever be permissable... I just dont ever want to do it, and I dont want to see anyone else do it either.
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Old 10-09-2005, 06:34 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Meri didn't owe her a drink after spillin so little...
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