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Ustwo · 10-07-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smooth

I certainly hope we can distinguish between a professional opinion and lay opinion in regard to genetic information. Your dentristry agains my law doesn't put either one of us in a very good position to render professional opinions about the transference of genetic abnormalities from parents to children.

Smooth, I worked for two years in a lab finding DNA homologs to a specific gene in various animal c-dna libraries.

If someone is more qualified than I am to speak on this issue here, please do so. I spent 13 years in advanced studies, only 4 of which were dental school.

Suave · 10-07-2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

Yes preventing brothers and sisters from having children is just a baby step away from total and complete eugenics.

Come on people

Our laws are based on precedent. With the precedent of making it illegal for two different people to bear children, regardless of the reason, it becomes that much easier to implement eugenics-style practices and customs.

trickyy · 10-07-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by smooth

hey, it cuts boths ways--doesn't Halx have an "abnormality" with his body

in all seriousness, though, if half their children are experiencing developmental problems, I'd look to malnourishment or abuse before genetic disorder.

half meaning 1/3 of one family and 2/3 of another
malnourishment or abuse do not account for weird body development, unless it happens in utero. i wasn't there every day of their fetal development, but i'm still leaning toward "their parents are related."

Bill O'Rights · 10-08-2005, 06:10 AM

OK, I'm fairly liberal, when it comes to social issues. But, genetics aside, I just can't wrap my mind around adult siblings in a sexual relationship. I say adult because it's not uncommon for some childhood...experimentation. But to carry on a relationship into adulthood is just...no, I can't go there. Maybe it's societal, maybe it's programming, I don't know. All I know is that I'm the first one to say that what two consenting adults do, behind closed doors, is their business and no one elses. But siblings? Sorry...ol' Bill's gotta draw a line somewhere, and I think that you guys have found it.

raeanna74 · 10-09-2005, 08:36 AM

I'm gonna put myself in this place. I am clearly aware that my brother and I both carry a recessive gene for anadontia (sp?). My brother never got his 12 yr old molars as well as some of his adult teeth. I myself retained one baby tooth and the adult tooth never came in. In our position I KNOW that if my brother and I were to procreate we would very LIKELY have a child with a much worse case of anadontia even as bad as the child being born with no hair, nails, or any teeth at all.

Even without this I am aware of the risk and if I had any intelligence I all I would not procreate with a sibling for this reason. Children are not a necessity and those who have them simply out of irresponsible sexual encounters are the worst kind of parents. SO either this couple had the children out of stupidity or they had them out of irresponsibility. Either way they should not have conceived. How to legislate that fairly is the tricky subject. I don't believe it would be possible to keep it truely fair.

analog · 10-09-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by raeanna74

Children are not a necessity and those who have them simply out of irresponsible sexual encounters are the worst kind of parents.

That's what I've been screaming for years.

10-08-2005, 06:10 AM	#44 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	OK, I'm fairly liberal, when it comes to social issues. But, genetics aside, I just can't wrap my mind around adult siblings in a sexual relationship. I say adult because it's not uncommon for some childhood...experimentation. But to carry on a relationship into adulthood is just...no, I can't go there. Maybe it's societal, maybe it's programming, I don't know. All I know is that I'm the first one to say that what two consenting adults do, behind closed doors, is their business and no one elses. But siblings? Sorry...ol' Bill's gotta draw a line somewhere, and I think that you guys have found it. __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

10-09-2005, 08:36 AM	#45 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	I'm gonna put myself in this place. I am clearly aware that my brother and I both carry a recessive gene for anadontia (sp?). My brother never got his 12 yr old molars as well as some of his adult teeth. I myself retained one baby tooth and the adult tooth never came in. In our position I KNOW that if my brother and I were to procreate we would very LIKELY have a child with a much worse case of anadontia even as bad as the child being born with no hair, nails, or any teeth at all. Even without this I am aware of the risk and if I had any intelligence I all I would not procreate with a sibling for this reason. Children are not a necessity and those who have them simply out of irresponsible sexual encounters are the worst kind of parents. SO either this couple had the children out of stupidity or they had them out of irresponsibility. Either way they should not have conceived. How to legislate that fairly is the tricky subject. I don't believe it would be possible to keep it truely fair. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.