Suprised? Women are cleaner than men.
 

Atlanta Braves fans don't wash up after themselves? Will the suprises never end...

Now I know it's okay to shake a ladies hand. I just hope that she is still willing to take mine.

Honestly... how do you stand around in a bathroom and count peeing people while not being super creepy/suspicious? I guess you could sit in a stall and listen-- [x] heard a flush but no wash.... but still...

On top of that, guys don't NEED to wash. That's why the whole "girls are cleaner" jabberwocky doesn't hold. Girls have to actually touch the peehole and consequently are inches from the poophole. If guys hold far enough back on the shaft and have good aim, there's really no contamination of the hands at all. Touching the peepee itself is no worse than touching your face..

I *NEVER* wash after peeing.

Strange... as far as I understood it most of them used toilet paper..... not their bare hands.

Nonetheless, seepage and drippage and mis-alignment could occur, allowing direct skin contact with the leaking orifice. Not true with a carefully-engineering penis-shake.

taking that thing out of your pants, where it is nice and warm, and perfect for generating bacteria? You call that clean? it's not the urine that's dirty, it's the dick... and consequently the hand that pulls the dick out...

Prove it. The penis is no dirtier than any other skin that is warm and can sweat (like your HANDS).

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I wash my hands all the time.

(I also play with my penis constantly, but I think that is a topic for a different thread)

A carefully engineered "Shake" does little for me. I feel better knowing that I used soap and water before leaving the bathroom.

I notice that when I use the sink, with soap and water, more men finishing after me use it too. The guys leaving before I am done often do not wash. Is it social peer pressure? I don't know.

I would like to rub my dick on a petrie dish and see what grew, but I fear the results would cause me to sterilize my genetalia daily, and that would probably hurt.

Hygeine in the Field: Wash your hands. It is that simple. Every time you see water and soap together, dive in and wash those hands.

To sum up:

Vagina = Penis = Hands in terms of dirtyness. Both are pieces of skin which are warm and can sweat, and consequently have similar bacteria/virus present (very little). As a matter of fact, your hands are likely DIRTIER than your penis or vagina, as your penis or vagina is not rubbing against other "dirty" surfaces like using your hands necessitates.

In the case of the female, direct or indirect contact with urea or poopy is possible, even likely.

In the case of a male, contact with either bodily fluid is very unlikely (provided an adequate shake procedure is followed).

Therefore, men are cleaner than women.

Jinn is right, with regular bathing habits, proper aim, and proper shakage, I don't wash my hands 50% of the time when I piss. Taking a ducer is another though, 100% of the time.

It's a joke, but it's oh-so-true.

EDIT:

Oh, and...

http://www.texastravesty.com/content.php?issueNumber=2004_05&story=opinion_kristin

Hands are exposed to the air consistantly, and therefore have less of a change for bacteria build to up. The crotch is a closed confined space that is moist. Underarms are similarly protected and breeding grounds for bacteria.

Prove it? I don't have to. I just wont shake hands.

Urine is considered to be sterile fluid, unless it is contaminated by a bladder/urinary tract infection.

I wash, but before urinals and sinks were invented, mankind seemed to survive fine without them.

We need some germs sometime.

Jinn: you're making me physically feel a little ill. It's like this, as far as I can tell. Note, I've done no studies on this:

1. You go in, and you pee the first time. You put up your pecker, and walk out. (Touching the same door handle that I have to use to get out, thanks)

2. Your dick, being the crazy monster it is, is constantly retracting, extending, moving around, sweating...and all that piss that you just dropped off didn't make it out...some of it is secreting out of the mighty dolphin.

3. That piss, and that sweat, will mix together to form a thin piss/sweat sheen all over your dick.

4. You go in a pee the second time. You hold nice and far back. You tap him a couple of times. You sling him around. You put him up. You take a deep breath.

5. You walk out, using the same door handle that I have to use to get out, thanks.

Now, let's say you think that your particular penis is like an autoclaved scapel. Very small people could eat off of it. Do you think *no one* gets god knows what all over that puppy, and then they say "Jinn's not washing. Crap, I'm not washing either." It's a particular habit I am more than happy to encourage others to pick up. Yeah, there's snot and all kinds of crap all over the place on door handles and desks...but think about the fragility of my mind, man....I beg you!!! I just don't want to put my hand all in some of your dicksweatpee butter.

I'm going to go wash in Listerine really quick. :)

When I think of all the thousands of humans throughout the past millenia or so who have suffered, passed on that suffering to others, and died because of diseases and whatnot that could have easily been eliminated through basic soap and water hygiene...(whew! long sentence there!).

Do not fear the hot soapy water! It's a luxury (historically speaking), indulge whydontcha?

BAHAHAHAHAHAH! *wipes nonexistant "penis-germs" all over this thread*

Honestly -- germs are good for us. Without them, our immune system would never develop beyond infantile stages, and we'd end up in a bubble to protect us from the horrible horrible cold bacteria. I'd rather have a virus in small doses (a little from the bathroom door here, a little from this public access terminal keyboard there) that doesn't make me ill than that same virus in a concentrated fuckton that makes me vomit up my innards. Speaking of which, that's HOW immunizations work.. :)

Aside from hangover-induced illness, I've never had a "sick day" at work that actually reflected me being sick. Likewise, I had perfect attendance in high school? Why? Becuase I was unsanitary without having bad hygeine, and I got a healthy (minor) dose of viruses. When I did get "sick," it was only a cough or two instead of a head-smashing blood-spitting hackfest..

So Jinn,

Let's say you were enjoying a nice tall glass of lemonade. And I dropped by and used my pud for a stirring straw, all the while relaxing over some quaint conversation about the weather and so on. You'd just gulp that shit down? Or maybe if I rubbed a Pepperidge Farm Milano cookie all over my sack, and then dropped it off on your plate. You'd think : "Damn, I bet that guy's dick is 99.9999% clean, with some extra germs to boost my immune system. Damn that's a hell of a cookie.."

or would you be trying to extract your shoe from my ass?

Now I'm not advocating licking the floor and devouring human excrement, but no -- I wouldnt have a problem eating a cookie you handed me, knowing you'd just been to the bathroom. If you actually rubbed the cookie ON the junk, that's a whole different story.

Just because chicks wash their hands more, does not make them cleaner. There are other factors, like how clean you keep your bathroom and how much of a mess you make in public washrooms. Many of my female friends talk about how disgusting the female washrooms are in clubs and other public places. My own lady don't keep the bathroom as clean as I do. That goes double for the kitchen. Beyond my own personal experiences, my general impression from talking to friends is that women are dirtier.

Of course that's hardly a scientific investigation...

Well, Jinn, I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree...one quick rule. If by some odd chance we're ever eating cookies together, you're allowed to handle cookies destined for my mouth between the time of your most recent shower and your first bathroom break. After that, no more!!! :)

And aberkok - yeah, I've known some downright filthy females. When I used to live with females, I used to notice that little red spot that would appear on the lip of the toilet every so often, and of course, I'd nearly faint with half a chode hanging out the delivery bay. I will say this: the ones I've lived with have invariably been better dusters than I. Very non-scientific sample.

edit Jinn, that cookie you wouldn't mind eating in your example above...is the exact same cookie that you'd find in your sofa cushions three months later if our positions were reversed :D

This thread topic misled me into looking in here. It's all mostly concerned with toilet related habits.

I was hoping to find out something else ...i.e., why my wife is a slob and leaves things laying around when it would be just as easy to put them away properly right from the start. I love her dearly, but either she has a perceptual problem and doesn't even see this stuff or she's a basic slob. However, she does wash her hands often enough and takes a shower every day which is more than I can say about myself.

Nick:

I like to call people like your wife "lateral organizers." I'm a proud member of this class myself.

First of all, Jinn... "mis-alignment?" :lol: :lol:

Second, for your consideration, a little ditty from uncle that's stuck with me all these years...

"No matter how much shake, no matter how much you dance, a wee bit of piss always ends up in your pants."

Personally, I almost always wash my hands when I'm in the bathroom, for whatever reason.

And I'd eat it!!!@

I know for a fact that several guys in my building don't wash their hands after using the bathroom. I always follow the "ten second" rule, soap, warm water for at least 10 seconds. I also use the paper towel to open the door.

Hats off to the ladies, guys, we need to catch up on our personal hygiene!

Funny, I ALWAYS wash my hands in a public restroom, but not always at home. I can't figure that out...*scratches head*

You dirty male Yanks :lol:

In the UK we all shower twice a day, wash our hands until they bleed after touching a doorknob or our own filthy bodies ;)

I have seen way to many guys do the shake, stuff it in their pants, and seconds later there's a tiny wet spot on the undies. Besides I've seen shakes end up with piss on shirts, or on the floor way too many times. I think it's just lazy that I guy won't use a tiny bit of TP to wipe it. If I were a guy I can't imagine not wiping.

I'm sorry but if I notice you've not washed after shaking I'm not gonna be all too eager to even shake hands.

Leaving the bathroom with a towel to open the door - All depends on if there's a trashcan nearby. If it's on the other side of the bathroom and I can't reach while propping the door open, or if I'm not aware of a trashcan on the other side somewhere then I won't use the papertowel. I will however use the pinky of my left hand to pull it open. Depending on the apparent cleanliness of the bathroom I'll use a wipe after leaving - I keep wipes in my purse at all times.

I always use paper towel to open the door if possible in public restrooms...and if I say "nesting" in the context of public restroom use, how many of y'all know what I'm talking about?

/Jinn, put your hand down...

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I wouldn't do that
If I were you!

smegma
|?smegm?| noun

A sebaceous secretion in the folds of the skin, esp. under a man's foreskin.

Drives the ladies wild!

raeanna74 says she's seen way too many guys shaking their cocks after peeing. Hmmmm, so raeanna where did you see all this?
Because apart from 2 girlfriends I've never seen a lady on the toilet and then afterwards and I've been out with more than 20 :confused:

Condescending commentary "adjusted"...BOR

I always wash my hands. It's icky (note: not saying whether or not it's HYGENIC) if you don't. Would you shake hands with someone that just jacked off without washing their hands? I certainly wouldn't. It's the same concept.

Go to work in the medical/healthcare field and it'll be drilled into the farthest depths of your brain to wash your hands ALWAYS. I don't see how some people can sit here and say they don't need to wash up after using the bathroom.

Paper towel to turn the faucet on (discard)
Wet hands
Paper towel to pump soap out of dispenser (discard)
Wash hands (keep hands pointed downwards to wash off scum/bacteria)
Paper towel to turn faucet off (discard)
Paper towel to pat hands dry (discard)

I do this every time I use the bathroom, and if it's a door you can push open, I push it open with the bottom of my shoe.

I've been in public restrooms where I am sure my dick was among the cleaner things in the room. At any rate, I usually tend to wash my hands after a piss but if a lavatory isn't available I'm not going to treat my hands as hazardous materials either.

If one is afforded the opportunity to be civilized great. But as has been mentioned, we crawled out of the caves with our dirty dicks and hands and made it this far.

I do the same as Sue-paper towel first to turn on the water, cover my hands in soap before using said water, then paper towel to shut it off and another to dry. With those dispensers with the handle, I get a towel ready and hanging first-of course, some really dumb women think I've done that for them, which means I have to start all over- 'uh, you saw me get the towel ready, why are YOU taking it and using it?' :rolleyes: I also carry anti-bacterial hand cream in my purse and waterless wash in both cars.
Working with kids for 3 years, I was sick from October to June each year, including two flus and pneumonia. Overkill? maybe.
I will say though, that study should have checked the booths in ladies' rooms. Women ARE slobs.Many cover the seats in pee and don't clean it up, they don't flush, they toss unwrapped used 'hygiene products' in the little pails provided....A booth in a ladies' room is like "Let's Make a Deal". You never know what's behind those doors.

Bingo, why is touching your dick any worse than your me touching my arm? Besides, touching the paper towel dispenser and door handle is probably worse.

Girls need to wash because they have to wipe, guys don't. Simple as that.

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Guys don't poop????

^^ I was talking about when taking a piss, as that is what I quoted.

*goes back to reading classes :rolleyes:



as you were...but please, wash your hands first!!

You don't wash your hands after using the bathroom to remove urine. Urine is sterile. It won't hurt you to get it all over your hands or anything else. This is why we ladies are taught to wipe front to back (or better, pat, or even better, use a bidet) and not the other direction. Getting a little urine in your vagina or anus is harmless. Icky, but harmless. Getting some fecal matter in your vagina or urinary tract is setting yourself up for a nasty infection.

The skin in your nether regions, for both the ladies and the fellas, is not like the skin on the rest of your body. It is swimming in some truly nasty bugs called coliform bacteria. But, you say, you wash thoroughly every morning. Doesn't matter. You clean off the surface, but those that are down in the pores are still there, waiting to hop on for a ride when you touch just about anything down there.

When you wash, this is the order it should be done in:

1. Use a paper towel to turn on the water and adjust it.
2. Wet hands.
3. Add soap. Lather thoroughly.
4. Scrub thoroughly for at least 15-20 seconds. Get fronts and backs, palms, and between the fingers.
5. Dry hands thoroughly using a paper towel. It's more sanitary than even a hands free electric dryer. Make sure your hands are completely dry. Bacteria and viruses like wet hands a lot better than dry.
6. Turn off the water with the paper towel. If you're in a modern bathroom, it's probably automatic.
7. Open the door with a paper towel. What I usually do is open the door with the paper towel, prop it open with my foot, and drop the towel in the trash.

For a double whammy, get your alchohol based gel hand sanitizer out of your purse, and sanitize with it (guys may have difficulty with this one).

The hand sanitizer is both better and worse than hand washing. It kills a ton of the bacteria, but washing with soapy water will remove more than the sanitizer kills. Using both is like using a sand blaster.

At home, I dispense with the use of use the towel on the door knob, because I know that it gets cleansed daily, and because the bathroom door is pretty much never closed.

Anti-bacterial soap is a scam. It does kill some of the bacteria, but the purposes of washing isn't to kill them, it's to remove them. The bacteria will be clinging to the oils in your hands, and washing with soapy water will remove the surface oils, taking the bacteria with them.

Ya gotta do it after using the restroom, before preparing food, and before eating.

Gilda

That's why when I wash I always either pull the paper towels down first or with my elbow afterward........ then I use the paper towel to turn off the water and open the door after I dried my hands.

Not that I'm a clean freak, it's just the way my dad always taught me when I was a kid and would go with him.

This is my rule for proper bathroom hygiene: if you touched your dick, wash your hands. If you can miraculously whip it out without touching it, urinate, and get it back into your pants without touching your penis, then you have my blessing to not wash your hands. Obviously hands must be washed if anything involving the ass occurs.

Think of it this way (arguing against the "touching my arm" statement): if I accidentally brush you with my arm, no big deal right? What if I rub my naked cock on you? That's a little different, isn't it?

I love the false science bullshit study that started this thread. They say that they have an investigator basically watching and waiting in the restroom to see if people wash their hands??!??! WTF. It is quite predictable that women or men are more likely to wash their hands when someone else is in the restroom at the same time. Peer-pressure? Social constraints? It is just a plain fact! My guess would be that the "study" (and I use that term loosely) vastly overestimates the number of women and men who wash after eliminating.

As another poster mentions above, many people wash up in a public restroom while they don't wash every time at home.

To paraphrase George Carlin: The only time I wash my hands in the bathroom is when I actually shit on them.

And if hygeine (perceived or real) is not enough, it once again really all comes down to manners and good breeding. This is so often the line that separates.

Good breeding? What are we, dogs? I also didn't know that manners meant I had to have an irrational fear of nonexistant germs.

Manners, to me, means saying "Please" and "Thank You" and things of that nature. I betcha Gahndi didn't wash his hands every time he pissed, do you think he had "bad manners" or "bad breeding?"

I mean 8 or 10 steps of "cleaning" after taking a pee? Are you fuckin' serious? You people disgust me with your irrational fears.. :( In the last 15 years, I've been sick less than 20 times. I ASSURE you that wasn't because I took the 12-steps-to-cleanliness approach on everything that I did.

"...and that only happens, once or twice a week...maximum!"
:lol:

Breeding means passing on proper behaviour and comportment from parent to child. My parents always drilled it into me that you only have one chance to make a first impression. If you want to be percieved to be a civilized member of society then well, you should learn the manners that go along with it. If not, then you run the risk of poor first impressions. If it's not important to you, well then obviously manners are not as well.

Manners go beyond pleases and thankyous. Manners go to the point of acquiting yourself in society to the point where you don't cause others to cringe in such situations like ' ewww should i be afraid to shake his hand??' In short, it's about a non-egocentric perspective.

If It's always about you, then you wont understand. If it's not always about you, then you will be empathetic.

No we aren't dogs, to answer your question. But then again neither are we animals who cannot pass on mannerly behaviour. Breeding means that you are able to learn from those who have been charged with your upbringing. Oh, and by the way, manners also does not mean that you have to have an irrational fear of anything. But having them would go a long way to helping others to assuage their concerns...

yeah, if i see some guy (or girl) giving themselves the old "adjustment" and reach out to shake my hand...it may be irrational. i may not make any sense. their urine may not only be "clean," hell, it might be totally awesome in shade, tone, taste and odor. i don't care. all of these issues are completely outside the level at which I'm concerned about this. I'm not crazy about shaking.

Jinn, let me ask you this. Let's say you were peeing off the balcony of your favorite hotel. Just as you start to drain, your girlfriend walks out from below, and looks up at you with adoration to ask you if you feel like going for a walk. You pee in her mouth. Just a little. She's not really enthused. Or maybe she is. Let me ask you this. Do you want to go down and kiss her, right then and there? I mean, it's clean. It's antiseptic. It's irrational. Do you want her to brush her teeth first?

You know, in fact - a lot of manners could be seen as being irrational, in the sense that you mean it...shaking hands? Stupid. yes sir, yes ma'am? stupid. holding the door for someone else? stupid. I think we do these things to show our respect for others in society...and i'm moving the "keep your sloughed off dick cells off my hands" idea into this category. Maybe it's just me :)

If she'd still have me after something like that, then no I wouldn't mind. Saying please and thank you isn't irrational or stupid, it conveys the thanks and appreciation you have for recieving the thanks. It allows us to get on in a civilized society, much like Janey said. There's a difference between showing appreciation for your fellow man (or woman) by being polite and civilized, and living a life in fear of the fluids of yourself or another. As a matter of fact, I could see an argument that being so paralyzed in fear of your own or another person's fluids is in fact the rude, "uncultured" response. How would you feel if you shook someone's hand and they wiped it off on their pants afterwards? That's not showing you much respect, now is it?

P.S. Janey, you taught me a new word. Comportment. :) I like it.

http://www.adaa.org/AnxietyDisorderInfor/OCD.cfm

"Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder is characterized by uncontrollable obsessions and compulsions which the sufferer usually recognizes as being excessive or unreasonable. Obsessions are recurring thoughts or impulses that are intrusive or inappropriate and cause the sufferer anxiety. Some common obsessions are:

Thoughts about contamination, for example, when an individual fears coming into contact with dirt, germs or "unclean" objects"

I'm not suggesting any of you are OCD, but its an interesting resource for those of you truly living in fear..

If I just watched 'em take a leak and not wash up, then they'd just have to live it...and I'd call 'em out on it if they got too "pissy" about it...god, bad pun, bad pun. As far as the other post...if being OCD (about penile detritus) is wrong, I don't wanna be right....

But yeah, in "normal" everyday operation I shake a lot of hands...hell, I've eaten at potluck dinner (stay away from me with your congealed asstacular casseroles, ye filthy culinary heathen) and so forth...but I don't have to like knowing all you unwashed are about. :)

As I rule i try not to piss all over my hands. i do wash my hands after i use the restroom and use the towel to open to door, btu i only do this becasue i shake about 100 hands everyday at work and its gross to imagine where those hands have been. I hope they would be as clean as mine.
Something that concerns me is you always now see the sign that syas emplyees msut wash thier hands prior to returning to work, but they need to make a sign that says we suggest EVERYBODY wash thier hands prior to leaving the restroom even if you get one or two more people to wash their hands you have done your job.

I've been to numerous swinger parties where bathrooms are frequently left open and it's not unusual for the guys to walk around in their underware. I've even seen my dad and brother in undies and wet spots showing immediately after using the bathroom. I've seen hubby, I've seen my neighbor (not current neighbor).

Is that enough?? You can't tell me you are certain you get ALL the pee off when you shake - if you get your hand wet and shake it to get the water off does it ALL come off? Not without waving it around for a minute or two at least, right?

Well as my user name contains the word 'Honest' so shall I be. Swinger parties? I know what they are not my thing.


I don't wash my hands or shake everytime or go into a stall to wipe myself.
dirty man?
I wash my hands before making or eating any food. I would never have oral sex or just sex from a lady without having a good wash first.

The reasons for not washing 100% everytime is part laziness, part there isn't always soap or anything anyway. Have you seen the state of some restrooms??!?!!
As for shaking 'it' about in public. oh pleasse. I dislike some bloke an inch away from me while I stand and pee as it is thankyou. I am not homophobic but don't like standing so close to a man with my dick out! :|

I have tasted pee a couple of times when going down on a g/friend but pah I loved em so I can forgive that! :icare:

You know, I thought about this earlier, and here comes a potential contradiction in my ettiquette. To me, this is part of the age-old sacred contract of getting-it-on...the Acceptance of Pee clause where you more or less kind of forget about the secretions you're about to encounter, within normal bounds.

May I point out that, in terms of why you need to wash your hands, the urine is irrelevant? Getting urine on your hands is absolutely harmless. It's even possible to save and drink your own urine in an emergency. Some people do it because they believe it's purifying and it strengthens the immune system. It doesn't, but it is mostly harmless.

Do you know what punji sticks are? Bamboo stakes sharpened and coated in feces and driven into the ground then covered with leaves or other ground cover, or in mud or tall grass to disguise them. A soldier steps on them, or is impaled. The wound itself isn't dangerous, but the infection is very dangerous, can lead to the loss of a limb, or in rare cases, death. The culpret is the coliform bacteria that are produced in the intestines and bowels. This is also why being "gut shot" or any other bowel perforation causes a slow, painful death; the leaking intestines infect the other vital organs with their coliform bacteria.

These same bacteria are hanging out on the surface and in the pores of your skin in your genital area. They can't be washed off; they're normal flora. So long as they stay there, we're all fine. However, whenever you touch yourself down there, you're picking some up. If you then touch something you're going to eat, or something someone else is going to eat, or another surface that someone else is going to touch, you're spreading your germs around.

You may have a little natural immunity to those produced in your own body (but don't count on it), especially if you've been exposing yourself constantly through poor hygiene habits, but the rest of us don't.

If that's not enough, keep in mind that frequent hand washing is the single most effective way to prevent the spread of disease. Even if you're not worried about your own health, say because you've got a very healthy immune system, it would be quite courteous to the rest of us to periodically wash your hands so as to not pass things along that you've picked up from surfaces or deposit things on surfaces others will touch.

Gilda

The worst part of using a public restroom, is when you have to use a handle to open the door, and there is no paper towel (just the air dryer). Normally I use the towel, to open the door, because of the other people who do not wash.

Just when you think you're kind of getting to know someone, they break out the VietCong crap sticks on you, and everything's back to square 1 ;)

Highly productive comments
/end sarcasm

Fine by me. It's perfectly understandable.

more useful than yours. I thank you :rolleyes:
since when is a question so out of order?

If someone said 'Oh Crazy guy wants to know something', I would take no offence. Brits are mostly more tolerant I reckon :p

Actually....my comments seem to have done exactly as I had hoped. It seems to have helped you revisit your comment, though the result of that visit was obviously not what I had expected. If the post had not been reported to me....Likely I would have left the borderline insult alone. I suppose a Moderate hint was ineffective, I will definately take a different approach next time.

OK. I'm off on holiday in a couple of days. Let's see if getting married changes my point of view/ ways of expressing myself?

Maybe not but I sure won't have the time to come here as much. I reckon for the first couple of weeks I had better pay some attention to my perfect wife and not the internet! ;)

And Gilda strikes the killing blow in favour of hand washing!

Mr Honest: You might want to curb your natural English sardonic tendancies to avoid any further run-ins with the law. ;)

A couple things:

Hardly -- I backed away from the discussion because its very difficult to convince someone to be LESS clean than they are, especially if they're female (no penis-holding). That said, punji sticks were irrelevant to the discussion at hand..

Feces -- of course feces is harmful to you, I've never argued otherwise. It contains all the BAD bacteria that you're excreting, including e coli. It had nothing to do with poop, but the fact that men DO NOT need to wash their hands after urinating.

Certainly there ARE coliform bacteria, but they're almost entirely located around the anus. Yes, Cecil got this one wrong too. An argument from common sense that corrobrates this? Men and women alike put "dirty" penises in their mouth all the time, suck on them, lick them, and do all sorts of other dirty things.. why don't THEY die of the coliform bacteria? Sucking a penis or licking a vagina spread the virus (and purported illness) far quicker than your hands would, and yet we do not see this? I fail to see how the four fingers required to hold the penis in position during urination are becoming are such huge disease-spreaders if direct contact with your mouth does not contract a similar illness.

Jinn,

I've got an idea. How about some field research? Get a t-shirt, and have "I don't wash my hands after I pee" silkscreened on it. Then go around and shake peoples hands. Or, perhaps at a professional conference / setting, just tell people before you shake their hands..."by the way, I just peed...and I never wash my hands afterwards. On principle, you know?" See how they react.

What would the point of that experiment be, exactly? It's already patently clear that people are far too scared of harmless "germs"...

I never wash my hands after pissing, I actually developed a habit, because of where I work.

When I piss, I don't touch my penis at all I can whip it out, take my piss and then flop it down in there without touching it once.

Where I work is extremely oily, and I don't like oily penis!

I'm with JinnKai but I wash my hands unless I feel the taps are really dirty and there are no paper towels. Like said above I think it's dirtier touching the taps and door handles, though you can use paper towels in the bathroom you cannot avoid it when touching surfaces anywhere else, it is also not that bad, as long as you wash your hands before eating your not going to get anything from it.

I also agree with Jin on this issue, however as somene who works in a kitchen I always wash my hands out of habbit, but when I wash my hands after pissing I'm really just doing it to guarantee a customer doesn't see that I didn't wash my hands. So don't worry restuarant goers, I always wash my hands even though I don't want to.

Haha. All this washing and re-contaminating. Amusing. Look it reminds me of a joke - wording is from memory and possibly incorrect....


A man goes to a fancy restaurant and notices that all the staff serving food have a piece of string hanging out of their trousers.

He makes a polite enquiry.

Sir - our hygiene practices are very strict. When we go to the toilet, we pull our penis out with the string so as not to touch it on our hands.

He asks how they put it back afterwards.

Sir that's simple. We use the tongs.

Along the lines of some other replies. It never ceases to amaze me the way most washrooms are designed. After turning on the (conventional style) tap with presumably dirty hands, one then is then expected to turn it off with the freshly washed hands.

But about the door... mostly I just push it open with my hips. Easy.

Hey. What is it about dicks. It seems that there is a greater paranoia about the cleanliness or otherwise of male genitalia than of womens (?)

Is this because of the initial post?

Being external and all - I reckon that my male privates are very easily washed. Mine probably gets a better daily washing (or more often since I shower after the gym) than women's bits. And after the toilet, well seriously now - only the end is unclean. Whatever the exact definition of that is. (I aggree, this is all trash science)

But yeah my point is. Women can be at least as dirty. And don't get me wrong, I'm not one to generalize - but you girls can smell down there. Plus your plumbing is rather more complicated what with occasional blood and all.

It is interesting though isn't it how much manners differ between cultures. ie Manners are not absolute, only relative to expectations in your surroundings.

For example - in India it would be considered unclean to use your left hand for serving food etc. I believe that this is their "toilet hand" by convention. My brother is a lefty and he got his behaviour corrected a few times when we were there (I was a kid though.. can't remember much).

[If there's anyone Indian here, please correct me if I am wrong.. I don't in any way mean to demean the culture, just to show that conventions differ]

As another example, different cultures use please/thank you in different ways, in different contexts/frequencies. You can say thank you too many times and then be considered impolite for not removing your shoes or by declining particular foods.

Actually, I don't think my penis sweats much. I say this in case it has interest value to any of you women.

;)

Buuurrrnnnnn... PENIS CLEANLINESS POWER *ACTIVATE*!!!