Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community  

Go Back   Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community > Chatter > General Discussion


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-15-2005, 05:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Location: Louisiana
help with a labor legal issue plz

short version

last saturday i was told by my boss i was making 12 dollars and hour this past monday.. i worked all week yet mondy we got in a tiff and to save time i quit.

as his last defiant jesture he wrote my check out for 11 dollars and hour.

5 of his employees know i was makeing 12 dollars all last week and 2 sub contracters also know this.

ive made a photo copy of the check and had it notorized.

i called him and told him he did me wrong and that if he didnt have the rest of my money by wensday i'd take him to court.

no who would i contact about that.. the labor board or a local lawyer?

granted im so mad right now i could just go back and kick the crap outta him but thats not my way.
__________________
It means only one thing, and everything: Cut. Once committed to fight, Cut. Everything else is secondary. Cut. That is your duty, your purpose, your hunger. There is no rule more important, no commitment that overrides that one. Cut. The lines are a portrayal of the dance. Cut from the void, not from bewilderment. Cut the enemy as quickly and directly as possible. Cut with certainty. Cut decisively, resoultely. Cut into his strength. Flow through the gaps in his guard. Cut him. Cut him down utterly. Don't allow him a breath. Crush him. Cut him without mercy to the depth of his spirit. It is the balance to life: death. It is the dance with death. It is the law a war wizard lives by, or he dies.
Drider_it is offline  
Old 08-15-2005, 06:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Moderator Emeritus
Location: Chicago
On the check that he wrote you, did he write final payment or anything of that sort? and did you cash the check? (in some cases, if you cashed the check then you accepted that as your final payment.)

do you have proof, in writing, that you were making 12 dollars an hour? (It doesn't matter what anyone else was making, what you were making is what is in question)

How much money is in question here? Small claims court would probably be your best place to go...
__________________
Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.
maleficent is offline  
Old 08-15-2005, 06:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
Lover - Protector - Teacher
 
Jinn's Avatar
 
Location: Seattle, WA
As far as I know, the law as it applies to this specific situation is pretty vague -- especially if you're classified as an "independent contractor" by the company/state. Unless you have something in writing (like an Offer Letter) stating you'd make $12/hr, it's really your word against his that he offered you $12 and not $11. If you can demonstrate getting $12/hr for previous weeks, you might be a establish a case simply based on precedence; you assumed that you'd be paid how you had been in the past. Ultimately, though... if you don't have something in writing.. you've got almost no legal footing.
__________________
"I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel
Jinn is offline  
Old 08-15-2005, 06:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Location: Louisiana
yeah but the thing is as we had a heated argument with witnesses around he did it outta spite..

louisiana he's screwed a verbal agrement is like a writen contract here.. pwn


also ive got a verbal voice mail with him admiting he raised my pay.. weither i can use it or not i dont know.. but with small town politics me and my family have alot of pull

we arent talking about a gaint corp in a big city here

just a country redneck bumpkin that thought he could get a slast snit out by jyping me of my pay
__________________
It means only one thing, and everything: Cut. Once committed to fight, Cut. Everything else is secondary. Cut. That is your duty, your purpose, your hunger. There is no rule more important, no commitment that overrides that one. Cut. The lines are a portrayal of the dance. Cut from the void, not from bewilderment. Cut the enemy as quickly and directly as possible. Cut with certainty. Cut decisively, resoultely. Cut into his strength. Flow through the gaps in his guard. Cut him. Cut him down utterly. Don't allow him a breath. Crush him. Cut him without mercy to the depth of his spirit. It is the balance to life: death. It is the dance with death. It is the law a war wizard lives by, or he dies.
Drider_it is offline  
Old 08-15-2005, 02:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
Tilted
 
$12/hr vs. $11/hr for say, 50 hrs max? So it's $50 or so. I say don't sweat it. People like that manufacture their own punishment.
There is a saying "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get covered in muck, and the pig likes it."
FatFreeGoodness is offline  
Old 08-15-2005, 03:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
Apocalypse Nerd
 
Astrocloud's Avatar
 
Yeah, how many hours are we talking?
Astrocloud is offline  
Old 08-15-2005, 03:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
is awesome!
 
Locobot's Avatar
 
small claims court, make sure to get him for the legal fees too...
Locobot is offline  
Old 08-15-2005, 03:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
Unbelievable
 
cj2112's Avatar
 
Location: Grants Pass OR
Contact the labor board first, they will likely hold a little more clout in his eyes. With a small claims action, you get the money he owes you, and he walks away having to give you 40 or 50 bucks and suffers no scrutiny. With the labor board, they are gonna wanna see his payroll records, time cards, proof of overtime pay, proof he's paid any benefits offered, proof of workmans comp payments etc. and they may require he pay you interest.
cj2112 is offline  
Old 08-16-2005, 12:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
Cunning Runt
 
Marvelous Marv's Avatar
 
Location: Taking a mulligan
Labor board.

In my state, an employer has 48 hours to give you your last paycheck if you quit. If he doesn't, you're still on the clock until he does. (I believe here there is a limit of 30 days.)

Bottom line--the labor board hears this kind of thing all the time. They can most likely advise you of your options, and they carry a bigger stick than small claims.
Marvelous Marv is offline  
Old 08-16-2005, 08:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
Tilted
 
Location: Massachusetts
I'd contact him first and advise him that you are going to be seeking legal recourse.

Certainly, the $50 of the dispute is far less than any potential legal fees he might incur. Therefore, it is in his best interest to settle with you and get on with his life.

Set it out in these terms.
RusCrimson is offline  
Old 08-20-2005, 08:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
A Storm Is Coming
 
thingstodo's Avatar
 
Location: The Great White North
Sounds like you quit with no notice. If that is the case, and he never previously paid you $12/hour, I don't think you have much to stand on. Quiting with no notice trumps pretty much anything else in the eyes of most judge-types as you failed to honor an uwritten contract of giving notice. Why should he honor a verbal statement to increase your pay if you quit the same week it was to go into effect. Also, sounds like he offered the raise and it wasn't something the two of you negotiated for continued employment.

By the way, if it's not in writing it isn't worth much; witnesses aren't worth much in cases like this.
__________________
If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves.

Stangers have the best candy.
thingstodo is offline  
 

Tags
issue, labor, legal, plz


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:12 PM.

Tilted Forum Project

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360