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Cicero 07-23-2005 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Menoman
You wont get into trouble if you just mind yer own business and act like you had no idea when the shit hits the fan...


chances are the shit won't hit the fan anyway, unless you start throwing it.

I agree, but at this point, too many people know about your drug dealer roommate. After all you told your mom, and she called the apartment office too. So it is going to be hard to disavow any knowledge if any of this got out. At this point I'd just put up the money and move out. $200 is worthwhile investment to avoid a big headache that could happen to you in the future.

Bill O'Rights 07-24-2005 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Menoman
You wont get into trouble if you just mind yer own business and act like you had no idea when the shit hits the fan...


chances are the shit won't hit the fan anyway, unless you start throwing it.

Very...very...bad advice.

pan6467 07-24-2005 10:54 AM

I don't understand all these people who tell you, YOU should be the one moving.

It's very simple really, tell the guy in no uncertain terms that what he does is his business but if he brings it into YOUR home (and it is yours as you were there first) that you'll have to protect your interests. Don't threaten just talk to him and tell him your concerns....

1) strangers in at all hours possibly ripping you off
2) needing your privacy and space respected and it can't be with that going on
3) getting busted for his stupidity
4) wanting your place to be a safe place to rest and relax and it isn't

If he has any respect he'll work with you.

Then there's plan B if he doesn't respect you:

I am not a violent man nor in anyway do I promote violence..... however, a few big friends coming over and telling him that shit doesn't fly in YOUR place may prove to get the point across in a better way.

Then simply whenever you are home you have 1 or 2 or a couple of these friends over and when someone comes to do "business" with him, you and your friends simply tell them that your roomate doesn't deal in the apartment anymore and you appreciate it if they leave and not come back.

Plan C

Go to a lawyer and file a grievence against your landlord and explain that you have had multiple discussions with him/her and they refused to help you in any way, shape or form resolve the problem, therefore you should not be forced to pay a red cent until the situation is resolved...... or if you move there is no fee for terminating your lease.....

If the landlord runs any type of business wanting to maintain some form of reputation he'll work out something with you that will be beneficial to you.
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But to tell you to just move and pay the fees without you standing up for your rights first is just letting someone else take over your life to me, but that is just my opinion.

Cynthetiq 07-24-2005 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pan6467
I don't understand all these people who tell you, YOU should be the one moving.

It's very simple really, tell the guy in no uncertain terms that what he does is his business but if he brings it into YOUR home (and it is yours as you were there first) that you'll have to protect your interests. Don't threaten just talk to him and tell him your concerns....

1) strangers in at all hours possibly ripping you off
2) needing your privacy and space respected and it can't be with that going on
3) getting busted for his stupidity
4) wanting your place to be a safe place to rest and relax and it isn't

If he has any respect he'll work with you.

Then there's plan B if he doesn't respect you:

I am not a violent man nor in anyway do I promote violence..... however, a few big friends coming over and telling him that shit doesn't fly in YOUR place may prove to get the point across in a better way.

Then simply whenever you are home you have 1 or 2 or a couple of these friends over and when someone comes to do "business" with him, you and your friends simply tell them that your roomate doesn't deal in the apartment anymore and you appreciate it if they leave and not come back.

Plan C

Go to a lawyer and file a grievence against your landlord and explain that you have had multiple discussions with him/her and they refused to help you in any way, shape or form resolve the problem, therefore you should not be forced to pay a red cent until the situation is resolved...... or if you move there is no fee for terminating your lease.....

If the landlord runs any type of business wanting to maintain some form of reputation he'll work out something with you that will be beneficial to you.
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But to tell you to just move and pay the fees without you standing up for your rights first is just letting someone else take over your life to me, but that is just my opinion.

yes he should talk to him, but in the absence of agreement there:


because if the dealer friend decides to escalate to the same level of "bringing big friends" over... he brings "bigger" friends over or "armed" friends. Or harassing you on campus or around town...

landlord says,"Not my problem, I've got my back covered, I don't care about you."

to get lawyer to file grievance may cost more time and $$ than $200.

Now if we're talking it's MY house, meaning I own it, then that's totally different, but to just be done with the whole thing at the cost of time of moving...

pick your battles as wisely as you can... there's no need to fight them all the time.

Menoman 07-24-2005 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
Very...very...bad advice.


It's called reality, not a fantasy world.

Though it is true too many people know that you know about it now, but that goes back to the thing about throwing the shit into the fan, which has already started... so now it's just like... throwing a tiny terd into the fan... but it still causes a big fuckin mess.

slowhoney 07-24-2005 11:46 AM

hi everyone this is my first post it's really nice meeting you all! :)

anyway if you just ask him to leave and tell him that it's really not cool with you that he's selling drugs he'll leave. if not then call the cops repeatedly. Im sure if you're polite at first then make it clear to him that you're a narc (snitch) he'll leave asap. Actually calling the cops would be pretty extreme, but if he wants to take it there...

Menoman 07-24-2005 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by slowhoney
hi everyone this is my first post it's really nice meeting you all! :)

anyway if you just ask him to leave and tell him that it's really not cool with you that he's selling drugs he'll leave. if not then call the cops repeatedly. Im sure if you're polite at first then make it clear to him that you're a narc (snitch) he'll leave asap. Actually calling the cops would be pretty extreme, but if he wants to take it there...


Make sure you end up moving out anyway if you do this, so your address changes when his buddies come to kick the fuck out of you for sending him to jail.

Just leave it be if you ask me..

pan6467 07-24-2005 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
yes he should talk to him, but in the absence of agreement there:


because if the dealer friend decides to escalate to the same level of "bringing big friends" over... he brings "bigger" friends over or "armed" friends. Or harassing you on campus or around town....

True, but the last thing dealers want is attention and usually they won't mess if they know there could be trouble.... it could escalate but I seriously doubt it unless the dealer is extremely stupid.

It's business and they want to avoid anything that disrupts or draws attention to that business. At least the intelligent ones do.

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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
landlord says,"Not my problem, I've got my back covered, I don't care about you."

Depends on your landlord's reputation and how much he values his business. I know in the state of Ohio if a landlord allows drug dealing on his property, he can lose the property to the state. Also, he is in direct violation of the lease which guarantees you a safe place to live (as far as his abilities allow.... acts of God, terrorism, etc. aren't covered) but to put a drug dealer in.... that is definately within his ability to prevent.

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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
to get lawyer to file grievance may cost more time and $$ than $200.

If you go to college where there's a law school, you can get a student lawyer dirt cheap, possibly for free. I know Univ. of Akron has a program where you can use their law school students and profs for minimal charge or free to help you with your case. I know because I am in the process of using this.

Also, most lawyers will give a free consultation and tell you if you have a case. I believe you would, and as such upon winning or settlement being reached 99% of the time the landlord has to pay the attorney and court costs.


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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
pick your battles as wisely as you can... there's no need to fight them all the time.

I do agree with this, and if you run, you may find that things are worse..... paying money you can't afford to move, getting a place that is not as nice, whatever.....

I'm sorry but I deal with people like this everyday and the only way you get respect from them is to stand up to them. I seriously doubt the guy makes enough to do any harm to you.

Worst case scenario: he tells you to go fuck off and that he'll do what he wants..... and like I said if that is the case then it is best to move because he is an idiot that will get caught withing weeks.

Redjake 07-24-2005 01:43 PM

I wouldn't just "move out." I would first talk to him, acknowledge that you know what he is doing, and tell him you don't like it. If he makes excuses or gets hostile, THEN move out. But you need to talk to him first, at any rate.


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