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sbscout · 06-24-2005, 06:48 PM

Wow... lots of good arguments on both sides.

We've got a couple of radio stations in town that have been known to give out thousands of dollars at a time, simply for listening. It always seems to happen at ratings time, when they want to be able to increase their advertising fees.

The people pay nothing... they don't even need to plug the station after winning... and they get the money. I'm sure that my middle-sized midwestern town isn't the only one that does this on a regular basis.

The radio station's actions after the contest seem, IMHO, to condemn them more than anything else. If they have done nothing wrong, why send the woman home rather than face up to their tomfoolery? And why offer $5000 in cash to settle if they truly feel they have done nothing worse than set a listener up for a joke?

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

TM875 · 06-24-2005, 08:59 PM

The only reason that the FCC ever sides with the plantiffs is that they want to cover their ass and set a precedent.

The radio station DID NOT lie. They DID NOT decieve. They delivered on what they promised. The listeners were the ones filling in the spaces and deriving that the "hundred grand" was referring to dollars.

The "Toy Yoda" boardered on deception, but I would still have sided with the radio station due to the fact that they never promised a "car".

It's plain English here, people. Assumptions and estimations are not fact. The radio station is not at fault, they should pay no damages, and the woman should be forced to pay the $5000 back. She's an ungrateful, lazy, ignorant person who deserves nothing more than what is fairly hers.

Marvelous Marv · 06-24-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TM875

The only reason that the FCC ever sides with the plantiffs is that they want to cover their ass and set a precedent.

The radio station DID NOT lie. They DID NOT decieve. They delivered on what they promised. The listeners were the ones filling in the spaces and deriving that the "hundred grand" was referring to dollars.

The "Toy Yoda" boardered on deception, but I would still have sided with the radio station due to the fact that they never promised a "car".

It's plain English here, people. Assumptions and estimations are not fact. The radio station is not at fault, they should pay no damages, and the woman should be forced to pay the $5000 back. She's an ungrateful, lazy, ignorant person who deserves nothing more than what is fairly hers.

So if you walked into Vegas and spun a roulette wheel that advertised a "100 grand payment," you wouldn't mind receiving a candy bar if you won?

waltert · 06-24-2005, 09:46 PM

judging by the direct quote from the DJ, she got what she was after. the definition for grand being $1,000 is a slang interpretation.

so, even if the slang definition is passable as valid, I would argue that it doesnt specify US dollars.

if I was the judge of that case, I would award the woman $0.00, but she would be entitled to keep the candy bar.

wraithhibn · 06-24-2005, 10:49 PM

People in Lexington are stupid......

I don't think I've ever heard of 102.5 and I can get most Lex stations from home. There so needs to be a redneck joke inserted here.

dlish · 06-25-2005, 02:00 AM

ahhh....the power of innuendo and sarcasm.

i still rekon shes an ungrateful bitch. take it sweet on the chin and laugh about it with your friends in 20 years time.

besides, 100 grand doesnt get u much these days!

Blackthorn · 06-25-2005, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

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it's getting someting for nothing - -no cash expended -- Winning is a state of mind... She won a candy bar -- get over herself...

If it's too good to be true guess what people...

The DJ's name is "DJ Slick". Come on...

She should eat the damn candy bar and get ready to go back to work. 100,000 large aint what it used to be.

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How ironic. I just turned on the local talk radio and they're going on about this story. Apparently now Mr. DJ Slick is no longer with the station, they won't reveal his real name, and and and they won't say whether or not he's been fired and if so for what. This is re-gawt-damn-diculous people. The goofball got a $5000 bonus for her trouble. That buys a lot of $100,000 bars.

Marvelous Marv · 06-25-2005, 06:21 AM

Maybe I'm just overly sensitive to misrepresentation because I believed the ad that said I could get cell phone service for $39.99.

sixate · 06-25-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kutulu

Ask 100 people what "100 grand" is. I'd bet that at least 90 of them would say $100,000 not a candy bar. Where the fuck do you think the name of the candy bar came from.

And all that means is 90% of people are dumbasses.

I assume nothing. I prefer to go by fact. I'm a realist, not a daydreaming idiot.

Sage · 06-25-2005, 07:20 PM

I think the chick needs to lighten up, but I *do* think there was misrepresentation in there somewhere... Like, when the station advertised the contest, did they say at the end (really really fast) that if one wanted full details, they should call the station? All of the promotional things I've ever seen come with small print or fast talk at the end. If the station was freely telling anyone who asked about getting a candy bar, then I'd say it wasn't their fault the woman took it at face value. However, if they didn't encourage the listener to call them for details, then I think it was misleading.

Either way, sueing about it is pretty stupid. It sounds like the woman is stupid too, because how the crap do you buy a minivan and a house with $100K? Of course, this *is* Kentucky....

ryborg · 06-25-2005, 07:23 PM

It's not like she lost money, so I don't think she should be bitching.

Gilda · 06-25-2005, 10:12 PM

The DJ didn't technically lie, in that his words were literally true. The wording was carefully chosen, however, to decieve, to lead listeners to believe something other than the literal meaning of the words. The woman who won the contest clearly interpreted the words in the way the DJ intended. He carefully chose his words to mean literally one thing, but to imply another. The law says you cannot do this. The woman is very likely going to get a pretty good settlement from this, though I suspect less than $100,000.

Gatorade Frost · 06-25-2005, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilda

The woman is very likely going to get a pretty good settlement from this, though I suspect less than $100,000.

Well, I think that entirely depends on the jury. I suspect she has the possibility of settling out of court with 100,000 from the station, or in court with a settlement ranging between a Hundred Grand candy bar and a load of court fees or a lot more than 100,000. Especially since she has the law on her side about deception. I can see her winning a huge settlement based on a sympathetic jury of peers making a statement to the radio stations letting them know they can't get away with doing something like that.

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Anyway, people who think $100,000 in reference to 100 grand aren't dumbasses.

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n.

1. A grand piano.
2. pl. grand Slang. A thousand dollars: sold the car for six grand.

mokle · 06-25-2005, 10:41 PM

Radio Station did seemto break the law, they should be fined.

The woman should take her $5k and shut the fuck up. She got a hand out. It's not their problem she "gambled" on winning the contest. She could have done other more productive things during those 2 hours. God damn sue-happy bastards.

Hey, Red Bull didn't give me any wings. Guess I should sue.

Vincentt · 06-26-2005, 02:58 AM

This isn't a 'sue-happy' bastard, and she isn't an 'ungrateful bitch'.

I think it is fucking ridiculous to insult her. Are you just jealous that she won?

This was 100% meant to deceive; there is no question on this. If you think this joke wasn't meant to, well... we aren't supposed to insult others intelligance on the tfp so I'll stop here.

If they suddenly change the Florida lotto or any other state lottery... taking all the dollar signs off the advertisements. Then pay the winnings in beans, saying "we just had a number; there was no talk of dollars..."

The FCC should fine the station, the DJ should be fired, and the woman should be paid at least 100,000 dollars.

By the way, grand = 1000, and so does K.
There was a episode of “Married with Children” where they showed the blond girl being stupid for not knowing Ks or Gs (grand).

This is not some new street slang; it has been around long enough to be a definition.

10k = 10,000
100k = 100,000
100Grand = 100,000

Not knowing the candy bar “100 Grand” exist is more reasonable then not knowing what 100 Grand means.

Drider_it · 06-26-2005, 04:33 AM

heh what do you expect from a DJ named... DJ Slick

somehow even without listening to the DJ he reeks of used car salesman.

Blackthorn · 06-26-2005, 04:55 AM

If it's too good to be true guess what?

THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS EITHER!

Eat your candy bar. Be more than grateful that the station gave you $5000 for sitting on your ass and listening to the radio. Go back to work and enjoy the rest of your life. It's that simple.

Seeker · 06-26-2005, 05:45 AM

I'm totally oblivious to the candy bar 100 Grand.

If it's a Nestle product then shouldn't the promotion/competition have gone something like "If you would like to win a Nestle's 100 Grand" or "to win 100 Grand thanks to Nestle" it would have been a bit clearer. Wouldn't the company have to endorse it's product in a promotion/competition, or sponsor the competition if it's cash?

Another funny thing is I've never heard of a radio station giving away that much money. $5,000 or $10,000 maybe, but never $100,000! (Not where I come from anyway

) Any competition with big prize money here is not usually a spontaneous event either. Sometimes the competition can run for a couple of months. I wouldn't think it would be something held in one DJ's work shift?

I don't really know the in's or out's of the business, my point is, I would have been suspicious about the cash prize myself. I probably would have had a laugh at the candy bar and felt a bit stupid for spending that much time and effort listening, so then I would probably demand maybe a cap and a t-shirt as well.

Lasereth · 06-26-2005, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kutulu

How can anyone honestly say the whole purpose of this contest was not to decieve the audience and make the winner feel stupid? Check out The Smoking Gun. There is a screencap of a blog posting by DJ Slick containing the following:

Since only 7 of you will actually be tuned in tonight and the rest of the nation's eyeballs glued to the IDOL finale, Hot 102 is showing our appreciation to our loyal listeners with a change to win 100 GRAND!!! It's sitting in a bad to my left ready for someone to take off with like the Runaway bride! Here's how it's going to work: Right BEFORE Mr. Seacrest announces the Winner (or before he teases the audience with another annoying "After the break" bit be caller 10 280-1025 and you'll be 100 GRAND RICHER!!!

This isn't some case about some asshat spilling coffe on himself and then expecting to get rich. They advertised this contest with the knowledge that the only way people would tune in is if they thought they could win a ton of money. They knew that the winner would have to drive across town for a prize that isn't even as valuable as the gas they used to get there. They never gave any hints that it was a 100 Grand bar instead of $100,000 that might tip off people quick enough to get the joke.

You know that this lady had to have gone nuts when they told her she won. They KNEW what she thought she won. Did they bother to put her on hold and let her know about the joke? Fuck no, they let her show up and the studio and then they were too chicken shit to tell her the truth at that time. Instead they leave a phone message.

Maybe you think it's ok to intentionally fuck with people's lives, hopes, and dreams and then humiliate them in front of their families for cheap radio gimicks. I have respect for people and I'm not cool with that. I hope she wins a ton of money from them for this.

I agree.

The DJ completed a verbal agreement for giving the woman a hundred grand. It's up to the jury and the type of court case as to whether the DJ's intentions will be used in the case. There's no reason to be a dickhead to someone on live radio. The station deserves everything it gets.

-Lasereth

Lasereth · 06-26-2005, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sixate

And all that means is 90% of people are dumbasses.

I assume nothing. I prefer to go by fact. I'm a realist, not a daydreaming idiot.

Give me a fuckin break. People are dumbasses because they assume a monetary figure is really a monetary figure? You'd probably go down there and rip the building apart if it happened to you.

-Lasereth

maleficent · 06-26-2005, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lasereth

I agree.

The DJ completed a verbal agreement for giving the woman a hundred grand. It's up to the jury and the type of court case as to whether the DJ's intentions will be used in the case. There's no reason to be a dickhead to someone on live radio. The station deserves everything it gets.

-Lasereth

The station perhaps deserves a fine.. .the woman doesn't deserve one red cent...

She's not out anything. If it happened to me (whcih it wouldn't because i htink radio contests are stupid) I'd laugh and be done with it... A normal thinking person would.

irateplatypus · 06-26-2005, 07:20 AM

she shouldn't get the money, just a tasteless prank.

but...

the radio station seriously should not have tried to pacify her with the $5K, that could be seen as an admission of guilt.

the station could potentially be liable for false advertising. it soaks up the revenue generated by the increased listener-ship the contest provides without taking the associated risk.

Vincentt · 06-26-2005, 07:25 AM

She called and she won the contest, she deserves the prize of that contest. The price was 100 Grand. 100 Grand = 100,000 dollars.

The only reason I have ever even heard of this candy bar is because of this kind of joke.

They could have wrote "100grand" on a banana and handed it out as the prize and that is fine... by some of you guys...

I'm sure you feel the people who win the lottery also don't deserve the prize. But they won the prize, that is how it works.

maleficent · 06-26-2005, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincentt

The only reason I have ever even heard of this candy bar is because of this kind of joke.

100 Grand candy bars have been around for decades- - they used to be called 100,000 dollar bars... at some point they changed their name. Most people in the US would have heard of this candy bar.

Why is she entitled to anything... There are scams everywhere (I get scads of emails I get from the African dude who wants to give me millions of dollars a week, I get tons of emails telling me how to win a free Plasma Television, or an IPod or whatever, I get tons of emails telling me that I WON something...

DJ Slick told her she won 100K and she believed him... oh well.. here's your candy bad - go home.

Her issue is that she promised the world to her children.. .and even if she did actually get t he 100K (she clearly never considered paying taxes on it) but what she promised she'd never deliver to them... Granted housing in Ky can't be that expensive, but a car, a house, a shopping spree, and a savings account for 100K less taxes - yeah right keep dreaming lady.

f6twister · 06-26-2005, 07:49 AM

The varying points show that the radio station violated the FCC rules. It has been quoted already but to show it again:

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FCC regulations say contest descriptions can't be false, misleading or deceptive and that stations must conduct contests as advertised.

Some people thought it was money. Others thought it was a candy bar. That shows me that the contest was deceiving. Whether she worked for it or not, she participated in a contest offering her a prize. She followed their guidelines and won. Now the station offers her a prize that, while correct in name, is not what they led the participant to believe. Under the same premise, I could sell a six bedroom, 4 full bath mansion with a pool, tennis courts and Corvette in the garage. I'm asking $3.2 million. Once payment is received, I will dig the Barbie Deamhouse out of the basement and mail it to the buyer.

As for the people who say, "If it is too good to be true, it probably is"....
How many radio stations out there host legitimate versions of this contest where the offer of money is real? Most of the ones where I live do. This type of contest is not too good to be true because it happens every day. Yet, I have never heard a radio station hold a call-in contest to give away a candy bar.

Lasereth · 06-26-2005, 07:53 AM

The US law system agrees that verbal contracts can be used as a formal agreement. When the DJ said he was going to give the winner one hundred grand, he led the winner to believe that it was money, end of story. The court system doesn't care what his true intentions were if it was a deceitful trick. He DID agree to a verbal contract on live radio and he broke it by claiming his intentions were misunderstood. A verbal contract was broken so this is definitely a law-worthy case. It's up to the court system to decide if his true intentions are going to count in this case. If they do, she might not get anything. If they don't, then she will get $100,000 as "damages" for a broken verbal contract.

-Lasereth

maleficent · 06-26-2005, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by f6twister

Under the same premise, I could sell a six bedroom, 4 full bath mansion with a pool, tennis courts and Corvette in the garage. I'm asking $3.2 million. Once payment is received, I will dig the Barbie Deamhouse out of the basement and mail it to the buyer.

There have been at least two incidents on Ebay - the first during the height of PS2 popularity, where a person sold a playstation box for several hundred dollars. The person who won the auction -- received just that... the box the playstation came in... The ad said it was a playstation box... the person who won the auction made an assumption.. .Buyer beware... The buyer got what was advertised.

There was another incident where a kid sold pictures of a plasma screen television.. the ad was written in such a way that the kid who sold the picture wasn't lying - the person buying the picture made an assumption.. (and who the hell buys a 52" plasma screen television for 2K)

In both cases, the people got what was advertised... If they made assumptions, that is their problem, they should have been more careful. This woman got what was offered... a candy bar -- if she made an assuption - well... Sorry.

Blackthorn · 06-26-2005, 08:17 AM

This woman was not sold anything. She was and is now trying to get something for basically NOTHING which sadly has become a popular sport here in the U.S.

Here's another shocker: A buddy of mine just told me there is NO EASTER BUNNY! AAAAAAH!!! The trauma of it all....

maleficent · 06-26-2005, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackthorn

Here's another shocker: A buddy of mine just told me there is NO EASTER BUNNY! AAAAAAH!!! The trauma of it all....

But the Tooth Fairy still exists right?

blizzak · 06-26-2005, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

Why is she entitled to anything... There are scams everywhere (I get scads of emails I get from the African dude who wants to give me millions of dollars a week, I get tons of emails telling me how to win a free Plasma Television, or an IPod or whatever, I get tons of emails telling me that I WON something....

E-mails sent out such as those are actually scams, done by criminals. This is a radio station which is a licensed, registered business. They are held to certain legal and operating standards, just like any business. That's what democracy is all about!

The FCC is put in place like any other standards association to make sure that business is practiced fairly and according to law. Simply put, the radio station did not do this. This isn't about getting something for nothing. This is about upholding a certain level of integrity in business practice, and not allowing deception to run free. The intent here was never to run a contest to give out a chocolate bar. It was done to boost the radio stations ratings and mislead people into thinking they could win a large sum of money.

Legitimate businesses don't scam people, CRIMINALS scam people. The radio station is a bunch of criminals, and I hope they get what's coming to them.

maleficent · 06-26-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by blizzak

The radio station is a bunch of criminals, and I hope they get what's coming to them.

That doesn't entitle this woman to anything at all - other than the price she won -- a candy bar...

Blackthorn · 06-26-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

That doesn't entitle this woman to anything at all - other than the price she won -- a candy bar...

She's entitled to something for nothing and if it were up to me she'd get just that: A big fat Mr. Bluuutarski....ZERO POINT ZERO. In this case the radio station generously gave her a candy bar and FYYYVE THOWTHAND DAWLAAHS!!! Not a bad days haul for doing nothing.

Gatorade Frost · 06-26-2005, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

That doesn't entitle this woman to anything at all - other than the price she won -- a candy bar...

Now let's fix this statement real fast...

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That doesn't entitle this woman to anything at all - other than the price she won -- 100 grand

The contest was for 100 grand, not "a 100 grand candy bar", but as it can go both ways (though I believe she's owed the money) she's equally entitled 100,000 dollars. It could go either way just as fairly.

Blackthorn · 06-26-2005, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatorade Frost

Now let's fix this statement real fast...

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That doesn't entitle this woman to anything at all - other than the price she won -- 100 grand KICKS IN THE ARSE

The contest was for 100 grand, not "a 100 grand candy bar", but as it can go both ways (though I believe she's owed the money) she's equally entitled 100,000 dollars. It could go either way just as fairly.

She should break that candy bar up into little pieces and sprinkle it on top of her favorite ice cream and enjoy every free bite of it.

Lasereth · 06-26-2005, 09:43 AM

I don't think some people are really thinking about this clearly. SHE WAS TOLD she won one hundred thousand dollars. She went to get it and they gave her a fucking CANDYBAR. Radio stations in my area DO give away thousands of dollars in contests...it is not out of the ordinary to assume that it is a real contest. It's complete bullshit to try to gain ratings by lying to your listeners. Whether you want to smirk about the candybar pun or not, they did LIE to contest goers by being deceitful. That is against the law on many different levels.

-Lasereth

The Magic · 06-26-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Gilda

The DJ didn't technically lie, in that his words were literally true. The wording was carefully chosen, however, to decieve, to lead listeners to believe something other than the literal meaning of the words.

It depends how he phrased it.

If all he said was, "you could win 100 grand", then technically, it should really mean one hundred thousand dollars.

You can't win Snicker. You can't win Milky Way. That's poor and incorrect grammar. However, you can win a Snicker, or a Milky Way.

If all he said was "win 100 grand", then his wording wasn't decieving; it was incorrect grammar that would normally only mean one hundred thousand dollars. In the end they aren't playing a trick or prank then, but just lying.

Gatorade Frost · 06-26-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackthorn

She should break that candy bar up into little pieces and sprinkle it on top of her favorite ice cream and enjoy every free bite of it.

Then after she enjoys her 100 Grand Sundae she should go celebrate by buying a new minivan, start paying for a house and then go on a shopping spree with her children.

maleficent · 06-26-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gatorade Frost

Then after she enjoys her 100 Grand Sundae she should go celebrate by buying a new minivan, start paying for a house and then go on a shopping spree with her children.

Or she could go out and get a job and do the same thing and stop whining about being pranked... :eyeroll:

I'm willing to bet t hat NO WHERE in the contest did it say anything about dollars - they wouldn't be that stupid... She won what s he won - a 100 grand candy bar...

Gatorade Frost · 06-26-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

Or she could go out and get a job and do the same thing and stop whining about being pranked... :eyeroll:

Frankly I'm sure we'll never find common ground on this matter, so I'm not going to try, but that's no reason to attack this woman. Where have you read she doesn't have a job? She's a single mother of three who has a small house, a car that's not useful for a whole family, and no money to fall back on. That's no basis to say that she's an unemployed dead beat.

Anyway, I'm done. I don't think there's any way around our differences on this matter.

canuckguy · 06-26-2005, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

Or she could go out and get a job and do the same thing and stop whining about being pranked... :eyeroll:

I'm willing to bet t hat NO WHERE in the contest did it say anything about dollars - they wouldn't be that stupid... She won what s he won - a 100 grand candy bar...

But where in the contest did it say it was a candy bar and not 100 grand? I think it goes either way. I don't understand or maybe i missed the post/article, but where did it say she was unemployeed? or are you just labelling her because, assuming that since she wants the money she must NEED it, and not just WANT the money to top out her 401k's?

I personally don't gamble, or enter in any contests but if someone told me I had won 100 grand. You better have my name spelt correctly on that check when I get there. Shit only way to make this story better is the woman now suffers a non-fatal heart attack from the stress and the station has to pay her 1 million........

06-24-2005, 06:48 PM	#41 (permalink)
sbscout Disorganized Location: back home again...	Wow... lots of good arguments on both sides. We've got a couple of radio stations in town that have been known to give out thousands of dollars at a time, simply for listening. It always seems to happen at ratings time, when they want to be able to increase their advertising fees. The people pay nothing... they don't even need to plug the station after winning... and they get the money. I'm sure that my middle-sized midwestern town isn't the only one that does this on a regular basis. The radio station's actions after the contest seem, IMHO, to condemn them more than anything else. If they have done nothing wrong, why send the woman home rather than face up to their tomfoolery? And why offer $5000 in cash to settle if they truly feel they have done nothing worse than set a listener up for a joke? If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.... __________________ Always question authority... it'll keep the bastards on their toes!

06-24-2005, 08:59 PM	#42 (permalink)
TM875 Addict Location: Amish-land, PA	The only reason that the FCC ever sides with the plantiffs is that they want to cover their ass and set a precedent. The radio station DID NOT lie. They DID NOT decieve. They delivered on what they promised. The listeners were the ones filling in the spaces and deriving that the "hundred grand" was referring to dollars. The "Toy Yoda" boardered on deception, but I would still have sided with the radio station due to the fact that they never promised a "car". It's plain English here, people. Assumptions and estimations are not fact. The radio station is not at fault, they should pay no damages, and the woman should be forced to pay the $5000 back. She's an ungrateful, lazy, ignorant person who deserves nothing more than what is fairly hers. __________________ "I've made only one mistake in my life. But I made it over and over and over. That was saying 'yes' when I meant 'no'. Forgive me."

06-24-2005, 10:49 PM	#45 (permalink)
wraithhibn Dopefish Location: the 'Ville	People in Lexington are stupid...... I don't think I've ever heard of 102.5 and I can get most Lex stations from home. There so needs to be a redneck joke inserted here. __________________ If you won't dress like the Victoria Secret girls, don't expect us to act like soap opera guys.

06-25-2005, 02:00 AM	#46 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	ahhh....the power of innuendo and sarcasm. i still rekon shes an ungrateful bitch. take it sweet on the chin and laugh about it with your friends in 20 years time. besides, 100 grand doesnt get u much these days! __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy

06-25-2005, 07:20 PM	#50 (permalink)
Sage hoarding all the big girl panties since 2005 Location: North side	I think the chick needs to lighten up, but I do think there was misrepresentation in there somewhere... Like, when the station advertised the contest, did they say at the end (really really fast) that if one wanted full details, they should call the station? All of the promotional things I've ever seen come with small print or fast talk at the end. If the station was freely telling anyone who asked about getting a candy bar, then I'd say it wasn't their fault the woman took it at face value. However, if they didn't encourage the listener to call them for details, then I think it was misleading. Either way, sueing about it is pretty stupid. It sounds like the woman is stupid too, because how the crap do you buy a minivan and a house with $100K? Of course, this is Kentucky.... __________________ Sage knows our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's She answers hard acrostics, has a pretty taste for paradox She quotes in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus In conics she can floor peculiarities parabolous -C'hi

06-24-2005, 09:46 PM	#44 (permalink)
waltert Insane	judging by the direct quote from the DJ, she got what she was after. the definition for grand being $1,000 is a slang interpretation. so, even if the slang definition is passable as valid, I would argue that it doesnt specify US dollars. if I was the judge of that case, I would award the woman $0.00, but she would be entitled to keep the candy bar.

06-25-2005, 06:21 AM	#48 (permalink)
Marvelous Marv Cunning Runt Location: Taking a mulligan	Maybe I'm just overly sensitive to misrepresentation because I believed the ad that said I could get cell phone service for $39.99.

06-25-2005, 07:23 PM	#51 (permalink)
ryborg Crazy	It's not like she lost money, so I don't think she should be bitching. __________________ Solve two problems at once. Feed the homeless to the hungry.

06-25-2005, 10:12 PM	#52 (permalink)
Gilda 32 flavors and then some Location: Out on a wire.	The DJ didn't technically lie, in that his words were literally true. The wording was carefully chosen, however, to decieve, to lead listeners to believe something other than the literal meaning of the words. The woman who won the contest clearly interpreted the words in the way the DJ intended. He carefully chose his words to mean literally one thing, but to imply another. The law says you cannot do this. The woman is very likely going to get a pretty good settlement from this, though I suspect less than $100,000. __________________ I'm against ending blackness. I believe that everyone has a right to be black, it's a choice, and I support that. ~Steven Colbert

06-25-2005, 10:41 PM	#54 (permalink)
mokle Psycho Location: Alberta, Canada	Radio Station did seemto break the law, they should be fined. The woman should take her $5k and shut the fuck up. She got a hand out. It's not their problem she "gambled" on winning the contest. She could have done other more productive things during those 2 hours. God damn sue-happy bastards. Hey, Red Bull didn't give me any wings. Guess I should sue. __________________ Mokle "Your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see" -Ali

06-26-2005, 02:58 AM	#55 (permalink)
Vincentt Addict Location: Tokyo, Japan	This isn't a 'sue-happy' bastard, and she isn't an 'ungrateful bitch'. I think it is fucking ridiculous to insult her. Are you just jealous that she won? This was 100% meant to deceive; there is no question on this. If you think this joke wasn't meant to, well... we aren't supposed to insult others intelligance on the tfp so I'll stop here. If they suddenly change the Florida lotto or any other state lottery... taking all the dollar signs off the advertisements. Then pay the winnings in beans, saying "we just had a number; there was no talk of dollars..." The FCC should fine the station, the DJ should be fired, and the woman should be paid at least 100,000 dollars. By the way, grand = 1000, and so does K. There was a episode of “Married with Children” where they showed the blond girl being stupid for not knowing Ks or Gs (grand). This is not some new street slang; it has been around long enough to be a definition. 10k = 10,000 100k = 100,000 100Grand = 100,000 Not knowing the candy bar “100 Grand” exist is more reasonable then not knowing what 100 Grand means. __________________ .

06-26-2005, 04:33 AM	#56 (permalink)
Drider_it Junkie Location: Louisiana	heh what do you expect from a DJ named... DJ Slick somehow even without listening to the DJ he reeks of used car salesman. __________________ It means only one thing, and everything: Cut. Once committed to fight, Cut. Everything else is secondary. Cut. That is your duty, your purpose, your hunger. There is no rule more important, no commitment that overrides that one. Cut. The lines are a portrayal of the dance. Cut from the void, not from bewilderment. Cut the enemy as quickly and directly as possible. Cut with certainty. Cut decisively, resoultely. Cut into his strength. Flow through the gaps in his guard. Cut him. Cut him down utterly. Don't allow him a breath. Crush him. Cut him without mercy to the depth of his spirit. It is the balance to life: death. It is the dance with death. It is the law a war wizard lives by, or he dies.

06-26-2005, 04:55 AM	#57 (permalink)
Blackthorn Beware the Mad Irish Location: Wish I was on the N17...	If it's too good to be true guess what? THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS EITHER! Eat your candy bar. Be more than grateful that the station gave you $5000 for sitting on your ass and listening to the radio. Go back to work and enjoy the rest of your life. It's that simple. __________________ What are you willing to give up in order to get what you want?

06-26-2005, 05:45 AM	#58 (permalink)
Seeker Getting Clearer Location: with spirit	I'm totally oblivious to the candy bar 100 Grand. If it's a Nestle product then shouldn't the promotion/competition have gone something like "If you would like to win a Nestle's 100 Grand" or "to win 100 Grand thanks to Nestle" it would have been a bit clearer. Wouldn't the company have to endorse it's product in a promotion/competition, or sponsor the competition if it's cash? Another funny thing is I've never heard of a radio station giving away that much money. $5,000 or $10,000 maybe, but never $100,000! (Not where I come from anyway ) Any competition with big prize money here is not usually a spontaneous event either. Sometimes the competition can run for a couple of months. I wouldn't think it would be something held in one DJ's work shift? I don't really know the in's or out's of the business, my point is, I would have been suspicious about the cash prize myself. I probably would have had a laugh at the candy bar and felt a bit stupid for spending that much time and effort listening, so then I would probably demand maybe a cap and a t-shirt as well. __________________ *To those who wander but who are not lost...* ~ Knowledge is not something you acquire, it is something you open yourself to.

06-26-2005, 07:20 AM	#62 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	she shouldn't get the money, just a tasteless prank. but... the radio station seriously should not have tried to pacify her with the $5K, that could be seen as an admission of guilt. the station could potentially be liable for false advertising. it soaks up the revenue generated by the increased listener-ship the contest provides without taking the associated risk. __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

06-26-2005, 07:25 AM	#63 (permalink)
Vincentt Addict Location: Tokyo, Japan	She called and she won the contest, she deserves the prize of that contest. The price was 100 Grand. 100 Grand = 100,000 dollars. The only reason I have ever even heard of this candy bar is because of this kind of joke. They could have wrote "100grand" on a banana and handed it out as the prize and that is fine... by some of you guys... I'm sure you feel the people who win the lottery also don't deserve the prize. But they won the prize, that is how it works. __________________ .

06-26-2005, 07:53 AM	#66 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	The US law system agrees that verbal contracts can be used as a formal agreement. When the DJ said he was going to give the winner one hundred grand, he led the winner to believe that it was money, end of story. The court system doesn't care what his true intentions were if it was a deceitful trick. He DID agree to a verbal contract on live radio and he broke it by claiming his intentions were misunderstood. A verbal contract was broken so this is definitely a law-worthy case. It's up to the court system to decide if his true intentions are going to count in this case. If they do, she might not get anything. If they don't, then she will get $100,000 as "damages" for a broken verbal contract. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

06-26-2005, 08:17 AM	#68 (permalink)
Blackthorn Beware the Mad Irish Location: Wish I was on the N17...	This woman was not sold anything. She was and is now trying to get something for basically NOTHING which sadly has become a popular sport here in the U.S. Here's another shocker: A buddy of mine just told me there is NO EASTER BUNNY! AAAAAAH!!! The trauma of it all.... __________________ What are you willing to give up in order to get what you want?

06-26-2005, 09:43 AM	#75 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I don't think some people are really thinking about this clearly. SHE WAS TOLD she won one hundred thousand dollars. She went to get it and they gave her a fucking CANDYBAR. Radio stations in my area DO give away thousands of dollars in contests...it is not out of the ordinary to assume that it is a real contest. It's complete bullshit to try to gain ratings by lying to your listeners. Whether you want to smirk about the candybar pun or not, they did LIE to contest goers by being deceitful. That is against the law on many different levels. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert