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Old 04-21-2005, 05:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well,

I was starting tomorrow for a temp agency doing some computer work when they tell me that my criminal background check came up with a felony conviction in 1988 for non-childsupport.

The problem is that I lived 1000 miles away at the time and haven't got any biological children (until June, that is).

Seems that some guy with my first and last name is hooked up in a database with MY SSN and birthdate.

I can only pray that this is the only place this foulup exists and that it won't cost me a small fortune in lawyers fees to fix.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow that sucks, and is rather eerie. Also stupid that it's a felonious offense to avoid child support payments.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I had no idea that non-child support could be a felony.

I can understand how you feel. I've been falsely accused of two felonies in the past, on separate occasions. Luckily I didn't need a lawyer to clear them up.

Good luck, nobody deserves to have to deal with sh** like this.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Make sure you get that cleared up!!! There was a convicted murderer with same name and age as the spouse and we always had to sign affidavits saying it wasn't him. Gets to be a bitch when trying to buy a house......
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This kind of crap happens pretty frequently. Some of these stories are sort of frightening, but...well shit. I'm not trying to weird you out, but I figure you ought to know what you may be up against so you have reasonable expectations.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/7on...3deadbeat.html
That seems to be a fairly extreme example. I know Maryland has a special court for this purpose.

I found this for you

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/extinf.htm

Hope it helps
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Have you contacted the court which supposedly convicted you of this felony? They need to know so the information can be corrected. If you need help finding court information, send me a PM and I'll see what I can do to help you out.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well,

I was starting tomorrow for a temp agency doing some computer work when they tell me that my criminal background check came up with a felony conviction in 1988 for non-childsupport.

The problem is that I lived 1000 miles away at the time and haven't got any biological children (until June, that is).

Seems that some guy with my first and last name is hooked up in a database with MY SSN and birthdate.

I can only pray that this is the only place this foulup exists and that it won't cost me a small fortune in lawyers fees to fix.
Let me see how I can phrase this:

You're fucked.

The normal identity theft case takes about 80 hours of your time to clear up.
I fail to understand why it is apparently so difficult to make the reporting agencies correct their errors. Maybe they've bought off all of the politicians.

I also don't understand why they can't be sued for libel if they don't take prompt corrective action.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Let me see how I can phrase this:

You're fucked.

The normal identity theft case takes about 80 hours of your time to clear up.
I fail to understand why it is apparently so difficult to make the reporting agencies correct their errors. Maybe they've bought off all of the politicians.

I also don't understand why they can't be sued for libel if they don't take prompt corrective action.
It might be hard, but with a good dose of perseverence and legal kung fu I think you'll be fine. Certainly not fucked, at least not proper fucked.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Also stupid that it's a felonious offense to avoid child support payments.
Not to go too off topic, but Why is it stupid? A person fathers a child, he is responsible for the support of that child. If he doesn't, it's the child who suffers and that is a crime.

I hope this gets straightened out for you pretty quick, Lebell, must have been quite a shock to learn you were a deadbeat dad... when you aren't even a dad yet..
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Maleficent, perhaps the father (before birth) said that he did not want the child, a father should have as much right to an abortion as a mother.

However given that our society will not allow the father the choice of removing the foetus (as a mother can) he should have the right to not have the child (essentially to him the child is dead and so does not recieve payment). Similarly a woman can have an abortion even if the father wishes the child, the law should allow the father some right in the choice as to whether or not to have the child (accidents do happen).

The father did not wish the child, the mother did surely this should have an agreeable outcome for both parents (I know in the UK Child Payments come off the top of your wages... so you are left with whatever you can earn, the payment comes before your own well being or ability to survive... and then they complain if you can't make it).

Sorry for the off topic. Hope you get this resolved, could be bad if they actually try and get you for those back payments....
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Maleficent, perhaps the father (before birth) said that he did not want the child, a father should have as much right to an abortion as a mother.
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The father should have thought about that before having sex.
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Old 04-21-2005, 07:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Think on the positive side. At least the feds didn't knock on your door and demand that you give them all your guns that, for some reason, nonviolent felons have no legal right to own.
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Old 04-21-2005, 07:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Oh goodness, this sounds like a bad sequel to The Net. I hope you get that cleared up as painlessly as possible!
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Old 04-21-2005, 09:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Not to go too off topic, but Why is it stupid? A person fathers a child, he is responsible for the support of that child. If he doesn't, it's the child who suffers and that is a crime.

I hope this gets straightened out for you pretty quick, Lebell, must have been quite a shock to learn you were a deadbeat dad... when you aren't even a dad yet..
Well I think it's a waste to put someone in jail for ignoring support payments. It may be a significant inconvenience to the family, but the person does not pose any threat to society, and the only thing jail does is isolate people from society. Reform is sketchy at best.

I don't know, maybe they need a new category of crimes between misdemeanor and felony, like swift-kick-in-the-nuts. A suitable punishment for crimes more serious than a fine, and less dangerous than jail time warrants.
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Old 04-22-2005, 02:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The BBC World Service just did a segment on California Child Support Law.
It was frightning!! No justice at all!
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Old 04-22-2005, 04:18 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I went for a security check for a higher clearance level. Part of that is a standard Criminal Records check.

I was in uniform, and this was a slam dunk. Never been in trouble (or, proper fucked, as someone said above,

I realized later that it was the exact wrong moment to make a joke, but I am an idiot...

I walk up to the front desk at the police station and announce (with a smile on my face) "I'm here to turn myself in!"
The cop doesn't get the joke... "What is your name?"
I reply, without the smile now "Naw, I'm kidding, I need a record check please."
The cop doesn't change expression... "What is your name?"
I tell him, he punches keys on a keyboard so slowly it shows he pre-dates computerized policing.

"Just one second." He looks at me. HARD. Remember I said I was in uniform?

Several cops come from around the corner. They stand there, not saying anything, just staring at me. One guy puts his coffee down, to free up his pistol hand. I am not laughing anymore.

"Can you spell your name for me please, in full?" The old man and the computer must have pushed the wrong button.
"Ooooookay, it is ____________. Is there something wrong?" Oh fuck. Did I get drunk and do something stupid? Is that time I showed up for duty late on file there? Wait a second... I am innocent. I didn't do anything!

"What is your birthday, Ben?" He is staring at me, with at least 5 cops behind him. One cop has stopped walking and looks at me, and I notice he has positioned himself between me and the exit. What the Fuck? These guys have no sense of humour whatsoever.

Suddenly everyone relaxes. A couple of guys laugh, but not my new computer friend. "There is a guy wanted for Armed Robbery, Sexual Assault, and Assaulting a Police officer in Edmonton. He has your exact name, spelling and everything."

Kids, remember that there are some situations in this life that are naturally inappropriate to make a smart-ass remark. Thank god the guy was about 50 years old, or I would have been kissing floor right about the end of spelling my name. I am an idiot.

It took about 2 hours of explaining what happened to about 5 different cops before they let me go.

You have a long way to clear your name if someone got your SIN, birthday and everything. I am sorry for the trouble you are about to go through, but remember, it is not the person behind the counter that stole your identity, so remain calm and polite at all times. Your frustration will compound itself if you get upset with the different government agencies that you will have to contact.

Good luck. Don't make jokes.

I am an idiot.
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Old 04-22-2005, 05:22 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Think on the positive side. At least the feds didn't knock on your door and demand that you give them all your guns that, for some reason, nonviolent felons have no legal right to own.
MSD Beat me to it. I'd be careful about doing the whole concealed carry bit until you get this all cleared up. And if anybody asks, they are your wife's guns.


Good luck getting this cleared up.
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Old 04-22-2005, 06:42 AM   #18 (permalink)
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There was a similar case a while back here. A guy applied for one of those governement jobs that requires a security check, and he didn't get it because he had apparently been serving time in Norway for armed robbery or something. But he had actually taking classes in college in Sweden at that time. Turns out it was some other guy who had stolen his ID. It took quite a bit of legal wrangling to clear that mess.

I hope you get it cleared up quick, you have the facts and the truth on your side!
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Old 04-22-2005, 08:01 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Don't get too worried about this. Sometimes these things are a simple error. Hubby has a common name and once when he went to collect Unemployment they had his SS and name listed as being employed in California. This while he lived in Wisconsin, was employed in Wisconsin, and had a valid drivers liscense here. Since it was so far away and there was no possibility of him commuting or some such thing all he had to do was provide pay stubs from that time period from his REAL employer and a utility bill for that time period. Social Security got their records straight and so did Unemployment. When we went to buy our house they had all his information correct. It probably took him about 10 hours to fix considering phone calls, copying papers, and mailing. Not too difficult. Albeit this particular problem was not a conviction of anything - still I seem to think this might be solvable without too much stress. Good LUCK anyway.
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