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d3cemberist · 04-09-2005, 03:41 PM

That's pretty insane. But there is a safety issue, and if the bus goes over a bump, he could get implaled or something crazy like that.

SVT01Cobra · 04-09-2005, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by d3cemberist

That's pretty insane. But there is a safety issue, and if the bus goes over a bump, he could get implaled or something crazy like that.

Hey, darwinism at its best.

I know a few people who say If they hadn't made it against the rules to stick your head out the bus window, we'd have a lot less idiots today.

Xell101 · 04-10-2005, 02:37 PM

They're probably thinking that they'll nail 1 out of ## offenders and they'll balance the costs by making a fine appropriate to that. I can't see anyone implementing something like that unless it got passed to the tune of, "This is god damn stupid but so are you, $300 a go, you ignorant pissants." It probably built up to something like this due to even more absurd circumstances on the buses. Aside from that, it was foolish to make such a big deal out of this and refuse a $210 reduced fine of $90, the kid did after all have food on bus and did know there was a standing policy of no food on bus.

G5_Todd · 04-10-2005, 05:50 PM

rules are there for a reason.......the kid was prolly a pain in the ass

Janie · 04-11-2005, 08:03 PM

It seems to me that the whole problem is few people teach their kids respect. Regardless of how little time you have before rushing off to work, school, etc, it's not very respectful to eat or drink while on a bus. It will likely end up on the person next to you, or all over the bus. Those who get up late and don't have time for a smoke in the morning don't get to smoke on the bus, and neither should eaters and drinkers. Perhaps people should just take the extra five minutes and drink their coffee or eat their sandwich at home or wherever.

Redlemon · 04-12-2005, 05:37 AM

C'mon guys, do I always have to be the one posting follow-up articles here? Ah well, goes with the obsessive librarian thing, I guess...
Sucker bet? Boy loses gamble in bus-candy case

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A 14-year-old boy who was cited by a sheriff's deputy for licking a lollipop on a Santa Clarita Transit bus - and who refused to pay the fine in favor of a court hearing - was found guilty Monday, authorities said.

Michael Prendiz appeared at a hearing in Juvenile Traffic Court in Sylmar, where a judge found the teen guilty of violating a state penal code that supports the city's rule against smoking, eating or drinking on public transportation, according to Lt. Brenda Cambra of the Santa Clarita sheriff's station.

Despite authorities' offer to reduced the fine from $300 to $90, Prendiz and his father chose to appear before a judge. Citing confidentiality in Juvenile Court cases, a court clerk would not say what possible fine or punishment the high school freshman will face.

Sheriff's deputies often ride the buses to act as a deterrent to vandals and to enforce the posted regulations that ban eating and drinking on the bus. A deputy on the same bus cited Prendiz for consuming the lollipop, addressing the boy as "Candyman" when he instructed the teen to come to the front of the bus

<a href="http://www.the-signal.com/News/ViewStory.asp?storyID=6898">Teen’s Bus Treat a $90 Law-lipop</a>

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The teen who was ticketed for licking a lollipop while riding on a Santa Clarita Transit bus was fined $90 Monday when his dad’s bid to defend him failed.
“We went to court and we lost the case,” said Joel Prendiz, father of Michael Prendiz, who received the ticket from a sheriff’s deputy.
Originally, the 14-year-old was given a citation for $300, but the amount was later lowered.
“I would have liked to see the case dismissed,” Joel Prendiz said.
The case was heard in Sylmar juvenile court Monday. Joel Prendiz acted to defend his son, basing his argument on whether or not a lollipop is food.
In Webster’s Dictionary, Prendiz said he told the court, food is something that is chewed and swallowed. Since a lollipop is neither chewed nor swallowed, it isn’t food, he said.
But the court countered that the lollipop was in the mouth and being consumed. Hence, it was being eaten and is thus food.
“To me, if he was eating a bag of chips, I would have supported the Sheriff’s Department,” Joel Prendiz said in a phone interview following the court appearance.
“I would have thought a warning would have sufficed,” he added.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department views the transit citations as a means of keeping the buses clean, said sheriff’s Sgt. Jim Morrow. The ticket issued to Michael Prendiz was routine.
“We’re doing the same thing we’ve done for years,” Morrow said.
“The city wants us to enforce the laws, and we do.”
The transit citations, which have been issued since 1990, stem from California laws that dictate no food, drink or smoking shall take place on transit lines, Morrow said.
The day that Michael Prendiz received his citation, four similar ones were issued, he said.
“I suppose it’s part of the democracy. He can do whatever he wants,” said Morrow in response to the fight the father-and-son team put up to steer clear of a fine.
Joel Prendiz said his son has learned his lesson. “He won’t be putting anything in his mouth again.”

Cynthetiq · 04-12-2005, 06:12 AM

and justice is served. thank you for following up.

I believe he would have had to pay court fees/costs as well, so it would have been a tad more than $90.

questone · 04-13-2005, 07:47 PM

d have more respect for the kid, if he paid the fine, then worked towards getting the law changed. I am sure this boy and his father didn't give two seconds thought about this law until it applied to them. and the only reason why they are fussing now, is because they got caught breaking it.

04-09-2005, 03:41 PM	#81 (permalink)
d3cemberist Crazy	That's pretty insane. But there is a safety issue, and if the bus goes over a bump, he could get implaled or something crazy like that. __________________ i like my coffee black and my parole denied.

04-10-2005, 05:50 PM	#84 (permalink)
G5_Todd Junkie Location: Reichstag	rules are there for a reason.......the kid was prolly a pain in the ass __________________ "....and when you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." -General Franks

04-11-2005, 08:03 PM	#85 (permalink)
Janie Insane Location: Greater Vancouver	It seems to me that the whole problem is few people teach their kids respect. Regardless of how little time you have before rushing off to work, school, etc, it's not very respectful to eat or drink while on a bus. It will likely end up on the person next to you, or all over the bus. Those who get up late and don't have time for a smoke in the morning don't get to smoke on the bus, and neither should eaters and drinkers. Perhaps people should just take the extra five minutes and drink their coffee or eat their sandwich at home or wherever. __________________ cheers to the motherland

04-12-2005, 06:12 AM	#87 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	and justice is served. thank you for following up. I believe he would have had to pay court fees/costs as well, so it would have been a tad more than $90. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

04-10-2005, 02:37 PM	#83 (permalink)
Xell101 Junkie	They're probably thinking that they'll nail 1 out of ## offenders and they'll balance the costs by making a fine appropriate to that. I can't see anyone implementing something like that unless it got passed to the tune of, "This is god damn stupid but so are you, $300 a go, you ignorant pissants." It probably built up to something like this due to even more absurd circumstances on the buses. Aside from that, it was foolish to make such a big deal out of this and refuse a $210 reduced fine of $90, the kid did after all have food on bus and did know there was a standing policy of no food on bus.

04-13-2005, 07:47 PM	#88 (permalink)
questone Crazy	d have more respect for the kid, if he paid the fine, then worked towards getting the law changed. I am sure this boy and his father didn't give two seconds thought about this law until it applied to them. and the only reason why they are fussing now, is because they got caught breaking it.