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Old 03-28-2005, 12:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have no idea where to post something about cigar smoking. I thought I could find an Interest category that covered it, but nothing looked right, so I'll just stick it in general discussion. Hope that works.

Anyway, I'm a bit of a novice cigar smoker and I was wondering if anyone knew anything about preventing runs when smoking a cigar. It really bothers me to have one part of it burn so much faster than the rest instead of having a nice, even burn line. Is this a natural function of the cigar or am I doing something wrong? Can I do something to prevent it from happening or to fix it when it does happen? Any advice would be welcome.
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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if its a good cigar and you light it correctly it shouldn't be doing this. could be due to crappy tobacco or rolling method i guess

if you set it down anywhere its pretty liable to happen as well. or if your dragging off it to frequently it might happen.

what brand are you smoking? are they the cheap ones you can get at a convienence store, or a good quality brand from a smoke shop?
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You might be inhaling too hard, avoid puffing away on it.
Or you might be smoking a cheap cigar (~ under $20).

A loose, general guideline is: draw no more than once a minute for a smooth "burn".

It also depends on your ring guage (thickness or circumference of the cigar). A "typical" cigar should last an hour or more then.

You should visit your local cigar shop and chat up the owner. Just be polite and they'll love to introduce you to the finer points of cigar smoking.

What are you smoking anyways?
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Arturo Fuente Maduros. I know that's not particularly specific, but the humidor is downstairs in my friend's room and he's sleeping, so I can't say any more than that off the top of my head. I'll post it when I get a chance. Based on what you're saying, I think I've been drawing too hard and too frequently, since I'd say I draw on average closer to once every 20 or 30 seconds instead of once a minute.

I'm just getting started, so any advice on the topic in general (lighting, brands, etc.) is welcome.
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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as for lighting.. i wouldn't use anything other than a match (preferably wooden) as the fluid from zippo lighters tends to make your cigar taste like lighter fluid, although a butane torch is ok if make sure to light it evenly.

cigars, in my opinion, are best enjoyed with a good drink in a relaxed enviroment. use your cheap ones during the poker game with your buddies, and only bring your good stuff out for smaller, more personal settings

i agree with jorgelito, go down to your smoke shop and talk with the owner, chances are he'll be more than willing to tell you all about everything you never wanted to know if he isn't a smoker himself, he should be able to tell you where you can find the info your looking for.
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Old 03-28-2005, 03:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Lighting is the most important part. In order to light a cigar correctly, you have to "warm" it. To do this, light your match or lighter (thalakos is right, if you use a butane lighter if you don't use a match), hold the cigar at an angle over the flame, and rotate it slowly a few times. If you really want to do it right, never let the cigar touch the flame. Then put the cigar in your mouth, hold the end over the flame, draw and rotate. You should get an even light then.

If you're smoking outside, wind might be a factor.

btw, Jorgelito, the only widely distributed, non-rare, non-vintage stogies I can of over $20 bucks a cigar (at least in the States) are Hemmingways. I was wondering what brands you were refering to.
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Old 03-28-2005, 03:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I've never been a smoker, but for some reason reading this you guys are making my mouth water! I'm getting a craving for some good Bourbon and a cuban!
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Old 03-28-2005, 04:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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tspikes51,

I probably should of been more specific. Price is a bit fussy as it depends on your location etc. I live in LA where everything is expensive except for syphillis (see my post in Scotch).

The price is also dependent on size, brand, country of origin etc. As a general guide I was trying to refer to quality: A better made cigar will tend to "burn" better, keep its shape better etc.

I guess I was really refering to say, "Phillies" where the whole thing just falls apart and is a poor cigar (in my opinion at least).

Yes lighting is definitely critical for a good "burn". Most cigar stores will give you wooden matches with your purchase and a cutter as well. If you like smoking, then you can invest in a decent lighter (a good one will run at least $75).

Keep in mind everyone, my prices are based in LA and relative. If you can get a better deal, please let me know and hook me too.

So, what do I smoke? Well, Cohibas, Monte Cristos, Romeo y Julietas (mostly from Domincan and the occasional Cuban). I also like Macanudos (the corona petites - that's the size, I think) for a casual quick smoke at a bar or cafe. I am also picking up some Davidoffs and Dunhills tomorrow and I got a collection of Rocky Patels. I always thought these were common and widely distributed. I'm a novice too tspikes.

Oh yeah, one last thing. Storage is important: Depending on where you live especially, it is critical to properly store your stogies. I live in LA (basically a desert with lots of silicone) so I have to protect my babies. Especially with the price I'm paying so I keep a humidor at home. There's nothing worse than seeing your precious Habana dried out and unraveling *shudder* or suffering from tobacco beetles. *shudder*

Liquidlight, pour some Scotch and light it up (correctly of course)!
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Old 03-28-2005, 04:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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theres tons of really high quality cigars to be had at great prices online... check out www.cigarbid.com and www.cigarsinternational.com for good deals (i usually look at cigarsinternational for prices and then dont bid above their prices)

the biggest factors in getting an uneven burn is proper humidification and proper lighting

to expand on what tspike said you want to hold the cigar just above the flame at a slight angle untill you get a little white ash on that side and then rotate about 1/4 of the way and get the white ash then repeat till you have it lit all the way around then hold the middle of the cigar just above the flame and it should light the middle if it needs it and you should be good to go

you need to make sure the humidity is between 65% and 70%
a lot of people prefer to keep the cigars they are going to smoke closer to 65%, gives it an easier draw and makes it easier to keep burning but if your storing cigars for more then a couple months its better to keep them at 70%
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Old 03-28-2005, 05:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I'm thinking of starting to get into the cigar world. I don't like cigarretes, but love a nice hookah with flavored tobacco (preferably peach).
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Old 03-29-2005, 05:12 AM   #11 (permalink)
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My first cigar was a Havana Romeo Y Julieta. I've gained a hankering for quality
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Old 03-29-2005, 06:29 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I have a Montechristo #1 in my pocket right now.

Ah, you yanks and your embargoes make me laugh. I can get a R&J or Punch here for 10 bucks.

Dominicans are to cigars like blends are to scotch. I hear people scream "SINGLE MALT!!" but am I the only one to proclaim "CUBANS ONLY!!"?

I brought back a box of Chruchills and a box of Bolivars from the trip, and then gave everyone a celo wrapped bargain when they asked for a "cuban". Do you think that you get a good cigar just because I went on vacation?

People get waaaay to crazy about their smoke, when they should focus more on the friends and the food and atmosphere. I relax and make sure I am having a good time. BTW, don't fuck around with the ashes on the end like people do with cigarettes. The ash at the burning end protects the ember and keeps the heat in, producing a good burn. If you are rolling the ash on an ashtray, flicking the cigar or tapping it to get rid of the wonderful ash (it should be quite robust and hold on longer than you think it should, for a good hand-rolled anyway) then you will end up with a bad burn.

HUMIDORS: DO NOT GO CHEAP ON HUMIDORS. I did. Then I cried. Then Lisa cried. Then Maggie laughed. She's such a little trooper...

There is nothing like going to Cuba, getting a "good looking" humidor, bringing it home, and watching the wood split from the drastic change in humidity. Go to your smoke shop that everybody here is talking about. Then buy a humidor that will run about a years worth of smoke. IT IS AN INVESTMENT, like a safe deposit box or an engagement ring. Go cheap and you will regret it. I wasted 200 bucks worth of cigars on a 50 dollar humidor that warped. You do the math.

From R&J to Cohiba, Christos, Upmann, and the rest, have fun, and keep trying new things. I prefer a lighter smoke (ask the smokeshop guy) and the real heavy stuff I leave to he pros like the rest of you.
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Old 03-29-2005, 07:01 AM   #13 (permalink)
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for humidor you can also get a tupperware and a humidifier and it will work really well, just make sure you open it weekly to allow air exchange

if you have a ton of cigars you can also use a big cooler.
heres some info on the cooler method http://www.cigardiary.com/index.php?...age&PAGE_id=28
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