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Old 02-28-2005, 12:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Almost Beaten To Death Over Pizza (video included)

Some guy was in line waiting to order pizza when a woman decides to cut in front of the entire line. The guy in line was on his cell at the time and told his fiancé "that the pizza might take a little longer". This angered the woman immensely and she proceeded to make the situation out of control with yelling, cursing and spitting at the manager. After her little rampage, she decided to call in her ex-con boyfriend (who happens to be a 6’5, 350 lb behemoth), who then proceeded to beat the man senseless breaking his eye socket and nose, chipping his tooth and giving him a concussion.

The pathetic thing about the whole incident was the fact that of the seven people also waiting in line, nobody tried to help, although I wouldn't be too quick to jump on someone that huge either unless I was certain everybody else would jump in with me. To top it off, the suspect only received four years in prison, which is an incredibly pathetic sentence for almost beating someone to death, and it was obviously not his first crime either.

Now, I don't want to turn this into a race issue, but it does annoy me that the suspects weren't also charged of a hate crime considering she stated "tell this motha fucka with his fucking white ass", we all know had it been a huge white guy stating "tell this motha fucka with his fucking black ass" and then beat him to a bloody pulp, it would have been a whole different case. Race aside though; animals like this shouldn't smell freedom again.


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Joseph Scarpino was on his cell phone when a woman cut in line in front of him. He commented about it on the phone and Presina Sims reacted with rage.

Security video shows Sims, infuriated by the comment, begin a long tirade at Scarpino. She swore at him, and even spat at a manager who tried to kick her out.

Sims then called in her friend, Mark Jones, 35, to fight Scarpino.

Jones came in and sucker punched Scarpino several times as other watched. Jones, who is 6 feet 4 inches and weighs 295 pounds, hit Scarpino at least seven times.

Jones was sentenced to four years for felonious assault.

Sims goes to trial March 16.
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Old 02-28-2005, 12:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That totally just ruined my day to watch that.

I have some really derogaroty things to say, but I won't say them. You all will probably say some fairly neutral comments with unoffensive words.. but that's not what's in my head right now.
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Old 02-28-2005, 12:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I hope he wins in cival suits... he should go after the pizza place too... how long did they wait to call the police?

This just pisses me off.
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Wow, this is incredulous. If this happened to me, that S.O.B. gets out of prison and I would have a WHOLE posse' waiting to beat him within an inch of his life. Hey, what goes around, comes around...
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It's really sad how people treat other people these days. A little politeness can go a long way. Should the woman have politely approached the man on the phone, and he in turn realize his fault and kindly let her go first, none of that would have happened. I know thats what I would have done at least.

Another thing that sticks out in my mind is how no one bothered to get involved. I'm sure no one wants to throw themselves in front of that man (ex-con), but even still, after he's gone, the others just continue to wait in line for the pizza! How about helping the guy who just got the living shit beat out of him?
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
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That totally just ruined my day to watch that.
I second that.

I don't understand that in such a confined place, not more would have jumped at him. Both the guy in the white shirt (near the door), and the guy just right of the camera (gray shirt), look like they could put some real weight into the struggle.

I sure as hell would've stepped in. And not passively either. (I'm no fighter at all so I would scope out the meanest first hit as possible and hope to god that triggers others standing by so I don't get beaten too.)

Anybody who goes into a senseless rage like that should be locked away forever. period.

I despise people who take the law into their own hands, but I could be one of the 'posse' waiting at the jail exit in 4 years.
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Society today...I know that if more than one was willing to take a stand they wouldn't have stood around. It's sad how chicken-shit society really is...we're so tough in numbers...
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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That sucks.

Whatd'ya call the thing you roll the pizza dough with?

That would have connected good into the back of that monsters head..I was kinda wondering too why everybody just kinda stood thier as if nothing happened. I wouldn't try to play hero myself, But if that whatchyamacallit was in sight one good swing and that fucker would drop or i would hope so anyways.

There was enough guys to take that guy down easy..
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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And to top it all off, the neanderthal steals his phone after laying him out.

Charming couple. They deserve each other (and lengthy jail terms).
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:56 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I still don't understand why the lady got all mad in the first place? I don't understand why this was worth assaulting another human being for.
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Saw this one the news but didnt see the whole video. The people didnt even really go to help the guy afterwards either, even after the big guy left. Thy must be pretty fucking hungry since waiting in line is more important than helping someone out who just got the shit beat out of him.

That big guy in the white shirt by the door was DEFINITELY big enough to have done ANYTHING to help w/o getting messed up. Hell, I'm one skinny-ass motherfucker but i would have done SOMETHING, even if it would be just a "hey get the hell off him, wtf man". That lady deserved to get layed the fuck out too, i mean damn. I wouldn't hit a woman, but that chick would certainly test my resolve in that.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:14 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thats insane! I don't care how big the guy was, how could you stand around and just watch someone do that to a person! There were more than enough people there to stop it, I can't believe people can just stand around and watch.
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I saw that video on the news last week. It was funny seeing the reaction on everyones faces in the Dining facility I was eating at when it showed. Seems like everyone said that if they were there they would have laid him out, but I wonder what the rest of us would have done if the situation had occured while waiting in line for food.

I, for one, know I probably wouldn't get involved unless I was sure there were at least two other people around. The guy didn't seem to be in a "listening to reason" mood at the time and there's something about getting your ass kicked for butting in while your waiting on a few slices of pepperoni...



Why does this story remind me so much of another story we talked about a few years back......
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:22 AM   #14 (permalink)
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He never got his pizza, just a broken nose. And a concussion. And a chipped tooth.

All because someone cut in front of him while he waited in line.

On Wednesday, his assailant got his: four years in prison.

In less than an hour, jurors found Mark Jones, 35, of Akron guilty of felonious assault for delivering a startling beating vividly captured on videotape.

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Old 02-28-2005, 05:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Unbelievable. Simply unfreakinbelievable. Between shit like this, and the fact that, for the second time in the span a week, I find myself in total agreement with something put forth by Rdr4evr...
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To top it off, the suspect only received four years in prison, which is an incredibly pathetic sentence for almost beating someone to death, and it was obviously not his first crime either. Race aside though; animals like this shouldn't smell freedom again.
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:58 AM   #16 (permalink)
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even with my size, i know i would have been on this animals back. My nails would have been sunk deep in his pigskin face . goddam fucking animal is all he is.

i know i would have, because I've been tested before. I've had to press the yellow strip on the subway before because a kid was being swarmed, and I held off the human (?) offal that was intimidating me until the police arrived, just through sheer guts, and the fact that they couldn't believe that somebody my size and gender would stand up to them.
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:16 AM   #17 (permalink)
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You know, before seeing this video I was thinking, "Everyone says that they would do something about it, but would they really?" I thought that most people would say that they would, but being put in the situation would act a bit more cautiously. However after seeing the video, I gotta say that I would have done something, because that is just fucked up. I would have got a few people to participate in a good old fashioned ass whoopin'. Seriously, I don't care what size you are (I am a pretty little dude), you can mess someone up with a 2x4 to the face.
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:24 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I would much rather kick the collective asses of the sheep who were standing in line not doing anything. No one even made a move for a cell phone to call the police or any authorities. Does anyone know what moves the staff made to help out the guy?
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:45 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm curious what the guy previously did time for. As an ex-con, and for beating a guy up for basically just talking on the phone, no, 4 years is not enough. Hope the guy on the receiving end is alright. I don't know what exactly a broken eye socket is, but it sure sounds bad.
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:48 AM   #20 (permalink)
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The woman apparently used the race card in court. She claimed that the man in the pizza parlor made racist remarks to them. It is a good thing there was a camera and witnesses to dispute this or the beater may have received an even lighter sentence.

Also the man who was beaten has filed a $25,000 lawsuit but the article didn't say against whom so I assume it is the pizza joint.

There are some real borderline crazy people out there. You never know what will set them off. I saw a similar thing happen once in a road rage incident where a guy dragged someone out of their car and beat him in backed up traffic. By the time I parked my motorcycle and got to him the beater had taken off. The only reaction by the surrounding cars was to honk like hell for us to get out of the way.
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:50 AM   #21 (permalink)
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This is unbelivable I can't belive that no one tried to help. What is wrong with people today? I wish I would have been there I'm a big guy and i would have defintley pushed my weight around they need to thow the key away to his cell there is no point in beating somebody like that unprovoked. I could possibly see if he would have hit the girl that started it all but he made a comment that's all no reason to get beat like that.
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Old 02-28-2005, 07:11 AM   #22 (permalink)
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he only got 4yrs for that? i think the punishment is a little lax. in situations like this, were everything is so cut and dry, meaning caught on video, and the crime just so brutal, they need to put people like this away for a long long time. ya know i get pissed at people sometimes but realize that if i was to punch that fool talking at 130db on his cellphone at the table behind me that i might do some time. just sad.
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Old 02-28-2005, 07:18 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Thats horrible. I guess everyone was hoping that someone else would step out there and take care of that asshole, just like many other situations in our society - if we sit back and pretend its not happening, the problem will just magically fix itself!

The scary thing is, I can see myself reacting just like everyone else... Sure, its easy to say how I'm going to get out there and whoop his ass, but when put to practice, its not always the way things turn out. I'm not a big guy - I'd probably get broken in half and eaten - but it seems that even those fit to defend their fellow humans (like the white shirt guy) have been trained by society to stay passive and let the law enforcement/military take care of it, instead of taking up responsibility when it would make more sense to act NOW.
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Old 02-28-2005, 07:30 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I'm only a 5' 3" woman and I would've done something. A few years back (before Tae Kwon Do training), I tried to stop a shoplifter in a retail store I worked at. The guy was 6' 3" and huge. When I stepped between him and the door and confronted him, we got in a shoving match, then he barrelled over me and broke the door down with my body. I hung on to him and proceeded to grapple with him in the parking lot. A crowd gathered at the door frame and watched as I pulled his Hilfiger coat off him, then his tee shirt. We had a tug-o-war over the coat (I figured it was worth more than what he stole) until one of the witnessess helpfully shouted that the guy had a gun (he didn't). NO ONE tried to help me! I just go on automatic when shit like this happens and I forget my size...
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Old 02-28-2005, 08:24 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Okay, so let me get this straight: SHE cuts in front of the line, the guy tells his fiance the pizza will take a little longer as a result, and SHE freaks out and calls ex-con fucktard on him? What kind of fucking stupid bitch does that?
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Old 02-28-2005, 10:09 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Kinda reminds of Seinfeld's last episode. The court shoulded have apply "the good samaritan law", you know.
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Old 02-28-2005, 10:17 AM   #28 (permalink)
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This is the most fucked up thing I've seen in a while. Why shit like this continues to happen is beyond me. Like people above said, I would also have tried to do something. But I also have my doubts that it would be as simple as helping the guy out. I mean, if you had sucker punched the big guy as he was beating him up, you'd probably be staring at a civil suit right now. God forbid that the lady jumped in and you ended up hitting her. Even though they started it (for no fucking reason) they'd still try to sue you out of house and home.

If there's anything I've learned, it's that this society punishes people who try to do "the right thing". And that's why I can't blame people who just stood by and watched. I lose my faith in humanity a little more each day.
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Old 02-28-2005, 10:35 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Old 02-28-2005, 10:49 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Yeah...I think that just made me want to step up from the knife I usually carry to getting a concealed carry permit. That was senseless but I can understand the other people being reluctant to jump into a beating like that. But what I CAN'T understand is the docile looking at it like what's going on without at least calling the cops or something. The workers should have had the phone in hand dailing the cops the second she started yelling and spitting on the employees.
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Old 02-28-2005, 10:52 AM   #31 (permalink)
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what the fuck? That's some bullshit right there. I don't give a fuck who you are or how big you are.. you don't have the right to do that shit for no reason. I can't believe all those idiots just stood there and watched. One guy wouldn't even look over. They should get sentences for being pussies. I'm not a big guy but I can pretty much promise you I'd have stepped in to help at least. Plus the big ex-con isn't that hardcore anyway..his punches are fucking weak and slow. This shit pisses me off. As far as the race card goes.. it's all bullshit. Even if the guy who got his ass beat said something that wasn't PC so what? It's not against the law and the bitch could have just said something to him and left it at that. I can only hope this shit happens one day while I'm around.. I'll put my Muay Thai training to good use.
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:03 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Shit like this is why I hate everyone. WHY. WHY would none of the like 5 people standing there at least say "hey man c'mon calm down". That guy in the white as stated before definitley could have done something. Often times everyone's ready to jump in but no one wants to be the first as they're afraid they'll be the only. I just can't understand why no one does anything.

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Old 02-28-2005, 02:12 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Good, I'm kind of in the mood for a little stir-fry. Anything, but pizza, eh?

I don't have the words to tell you how much I agree with you. The saddest thing about this is everybody just fucking stood there and watched this guy get his ass beat. Didn't even move to help even after the guy left the store, just stood in line like a bunch of fucking sheep.

I don't fight much myself, but I guarantee that I'm not going to stand around watch something like that happen.

I hope he gets his $20,000.

I hope that 'lady' gets what's coming to her as well. If there's any poetic justice in the world, she'll contract some disease or physical ailment that keeps her from opening her big fat fucking mouth ever again.

I hope that the 'grade A thug' gets a great big ol' bunkmate who's just broke up with his 'boyfriend.' I hope they become real good friends.

Rdr4ever is absolutely right. This guy should never be let out of his cage again. He's nothing more than a thug and thugs are about as worthless in my eyes as a big pile of steaming shit.
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:18 PM   #34 (permalink)
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oh man, to have been on that jury....

I just dont understand why nobody fucking helped. Its kind of like a story I heard on the radio this morning. A metro atlanta cop called in talking about a call he'd been dispatched to last nite...the message he got was a man on the side of the road yelling.

He gets to where the guy is and it turns out it was a disabled man sitting at a bus stop that had fallen so far forward in his wheelchair he couldnt upright himself....he was yelling for help....he sat in the pouring down rain for an hour with people getting off busses and fucking ignoring him.

sorry...I know that was kind of off topic, but I just wonder where the hell peoples fucking brains are (yes this makes me very angry)
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:24 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:31 PM   #36 (permalink)
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That's amazing how people just stood there. I hope I never see something like that happen in my lifetime where I live. I have a feeling all it would have taken was one other person to stand up to this guy for him to back off. I don't care how big you are, being outnumbered in a fight is not fun.
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:43 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I know she shouldn't have gotten "all up in his grill" but he should have met her. When I watched it, it looked like he sort of met eyes with her and got into a yelling contest. He should have just shut the fuck up, or plead for his life. Either one would have been better than what he did. Actually, I think if I were him I would have pointed to the manager, but I think he ran off to the back lol. Like everyones been saying, you had about five good sized adult males in the place, who could have very easily came up from behind and put him into a choke hold or nail him in the balls. If I were there I would have been thinking, "MUST LOOK FOR A BLUNT OBJECT!" *sigh* whats the world coming to...


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On a side note I would like to go ahead and make a prediction. Within 6 months their will be a picture or video of this with the word Pwned involved...thank you.

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Old 02-28-2005, 02:45 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:48 PM   #39 (permalink)
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And people give you strange looks when you say society is irretreivable messed up. Its a pizza. If you cut in line, you deserve whatever snide remark someone gives you. Hell, you deserve to told off by the whole parlor, not just the one guy you cut off. Then when you make a fuss about it, you deserve to be thrown out. Then, when you or your tank of an ex-con hubby starts wailing on the guy, you deserve FAR more than four years. You also deserve the shitbeating of your life.

I'm 6'1" and about 150 pounds. I would have either reached over the counter, or asked one of the pizza guys to hand me something hard, and whatever I got would have come sailing down on that guy's skull. I wouldn't have cared if it bounced off his head and he started to beat me up. It's common decency, and that guy was wrong. And there is a point when one person is out of control that words won't slow him down -- no, you have to bring him down.

I imagine if I started, someone else would have popped out of their pizza-induced haze and given me a hand. Or a rolling pin.

I try and I try not to be racist, and for the most part, I believe I do a good job. But there's a mentality out there in a few minority groups that theyre better, or that they have the right to be as bad-ass as they want, to make up for oppression years passed. No, no you don't. You just sit down in your chair and behave like the rest of the class. Thankyou.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:16 PM   #40 (permalink)
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It's seeing things like this that make me wonder just exactly how trained we are. I mean, we all say we would do something about what was going on there, but how many of us really would? We've been conditioned not to take action -- just let the bad man have his way and it'll all be over soon enough. And like someone mentioned a few posts up, you might get in trouble for trying to stop that peice of shit and end up in some deep shit over doing the right thing. Inaction is safe.

I almost believe that we are complacent and conditioned enough to accept a police state.

Imagine that instead of a large ex-con coming in and beating the hell out of that guy, it's a group of secret police coming to take him away. The other people there would, again, stand by and do nothing.

We're all fucking sheep. I think 90% of us would play it safe as well. It's so disgusting to watch that happen, at least to me, because I can imagine doing the same exact thing. I'm part of this crazy, fucked up system and there's nothing I can do about that.


I hope that the guy on the cellphone makes a fast recovery and the asshole couple get what they deserve too. I just don't see it happening, though. Our sense of justice is twisted.
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