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Old 02-16-2005, 12:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What's most important to you? Hump Day Question

Hump day question which isn't really a question, but work with me here--put the following in order of their importance to you:
Self
Spirituality
Lover
Family
Career
Money
Friends
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Mine:
Self
Family
Spirituality
Friends
Lover
Career
Money
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I guess I do a lot to keep my wife and kids happy, fed and clothed...
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wow, this is tough list. I'm still not sure I got it right - I think it changes.
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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(it was easy for me to cut and paste Averett's answer, hope you don't mind. It just worked out that way)
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Mine:
Lover/Friends (Generally one and the same... Though no lover to speak of at the moment)
Family
Self
Money (again, this is a matter of when/if I have it)
Career
Spirituality

Edit: looking back over these, I think it's interesting to note how low spirituality is on most of the lists so far. Is that because of the generally secular nature of the internet? The world at large? Just a mindless pondering, carry on.

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Old 02-16-2005, 12:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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This is hard, after putting this together i realized I had family ranked 4th. What a shit I am.
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:13 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yes, and this is my list. :-p I only have family at 6 because I don't like the ones I currently have ... kiddin', I don't have much that makes a difference, yea, that's it. :-)
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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...i guess i go from the inside out in importances to me.

not surprised at my order. I've long accepted that I'm at the center of my world.

:shrug:

Good Q tho.
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Career - Well, more like the craft of cooking, as I get better at it, the more I advance my career.
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Friends/Family/Lover - I can't really put one ahead of the others here.
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Edit - I forgot spirituality... goes to show you how important it is to me.

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Old 02-16-2005, 02:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 02:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 03:00 PM   #18 (permalink)
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An interesting excercise, thanks. I enjoyed thinking about which positions were most difficult to decide. Most were "no-brainers", but I had trouble deciding between self and friends. I eventually put myself above my friends. I feel that doing otherwise places my lover/family below my friends. I have a responsibility to my wife and child. I can't sacrifice myself for my friends without hurting my wife and child. (Plus, I don't have any really good friends outside of my wife).

I might not be making any sense.

EDIT: Another thought: Are the positional choices you made a reflection of how you actually live your life or a reflection of how you would like to live your life?

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Old 02-16-2005, 03:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 03:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Friends(I love my friends)
Money(I am poor... I want money)
Family(they should probably be higher, but they are not.)
Lover(I dont have one)
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Old 02-16-2005, 03:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 03:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 03:19 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:02 PM   #24 (permalink)
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...interesting one...
I don`t really get it, can the folks who listed money over self please explain that decision to me? Sounds really illogical to me

self


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Career (ugly word for me, I take it somehow as "purpose in life")
friends/money/spirituality(can`t really decide)
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:14 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:37 PM   #26 (permalink)
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1: Money, without enough of it in today's society it is hard to tend to the other things on the list
2: Career, good thing to have to get number 1
3: Lover/Family
4: Self
5: Friends
I don't even have spirituality on my list. It is too closely related to religion which is the cause of most problems in the world today.
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:37 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I looked through every post before here and only one was close to this... (Averett).

Self seems like such a natural first choice, I have a hard time believing anyone would not put themselves first in the vast majority of life's decisions. I don't equate putting myself first with being selfish, my sigot and I call it "rational self interest" i.e. you do for others what you logically are able to do. For example right now I don't give a lot of my time and money to charities, though I plan to - right now I need to focus on making sure I'm not needing a handout, then later on in life when I'm financially comfortable I can give my money and my time and feel the best about it.
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:51 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Yeah, but the definition of selfishness is putting yourself before everything else; being chiefly concerned with yourself. If that is so, how can you say that putting yourself before everything is not being selfish?

I don't know about yall, but if I had to die so that anyone in my family could live, I would do it. Same with my friends. Well, close friends anyway. My friends are like brothers to me; they are like blood. Hell, even if it were not something so severe as death, I would put them above me. That's not to say I do whatever someone tells me to do, but for serious matters, if it were me or them, I would put them first.
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Old 02-16-2005, 08:00 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Yeah, but the definition of selfishness is putting yourself before everything else; being chiefly concerned with yourself. If that is so, how can you say that putting yourself before everything is not being selfish?

I don't know about yall, but if I had to die so that anyone in my family could live, I would do it. Same with my friends. Well, close friends anyway. My friends are like brothers to me; they are like blood. Hell, even if it were not something so severe as death, I would put them above me. That's not to say I do whatever someone tells me to do, but for serious matters, if it were me or them, I would put them first.
You must have some pretty loyal friends for you to put them above yourself..That's a good thing to have though.

I know none of my friends would put me above themselves so i put myself above them..I would love to have just 1 true friend that i could totally trust..Then i would put that person above myself.
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Old 02-16-2005, 08:49 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well, I'm only talking about like three friends. I don't know if they would do the same for me, but I would do it for them..
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Old 02-16-2005, 09:54 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 02-17-2005, 03:54 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:41 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Spirituality - whether it be atheism, buddism or christianity affects everything else that we do in life. I don't see how it could not be the basis and first thing in my life. I would not allow it to separate me from my family though. I'm not a fanatic. If it asked me to choose between family or faith I would CHANGE my faith.

As for family, lover and self. The order is constantly fluctuating. Who needs my attention most at the time. A child growing up in a home where the parents are true lovers gains a sense of love and self that will be much more of a struggle for a child in a home where the parents are constant enemies. Self much be balanced with family and lover or you wither away. I know I'm a better parent and lover when I've given myself proper nutrition and sleep. But in a life or death situation where there was a choice between myself or my family I would give my life for them.

As for Career and Money. I need money to get through life and that's primarily where it ends. If I don't enjoy my career I won't enjoy the money I make from it nearly as much. I grew up without a lot of money. In fact my parents declared bankruptcy 3 times in my lifetime. My Dad never learned to make more careful contracts and allowed people to rip in off in his construction business too many times. He likes to be a nice guy too much and consequently we were often short and in fear of loosing our home. Money is important but I know how to do without. Career - I'm doing what I love and that's what I always hope to do.
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:43 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 02-17-2005, 07:06 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Yeah, but the definition of selfishness is putting yourself before everything else; being chiefly concerned with yourself. If that is so, how can you say that putting yourself before everything is not being selfish?

I don't know about yall, but if I had to die so that anyone in my family could live, I would do it. Same with my friends. Well, close friends anyway. My friends are like brothers to me; they are like blood. Hell, even if it were not something so severe as death, I would put them above me. That's not to say I do whatever someone tells me to do, but for serious matters, if it were me or them, I would put them first.
Nope, not me. None of my friends have ever meant so much to me that I would die for them. And I only have one family member left, and if it really came down to it my choice would be clear. The only person I've known who I think might have made that sort of sacrifice for me was my mother, she's dead now though. (Not for that reason!) Are you seriously saying you'd literally die for your friends, or is it a metaphorical thing?

As for putting yourself first, of course that's being selfish. That's how we stay alive, like when we don't walk in front of trains and stuff. Seriously though, a certain degree of selfishness is not only inherent in human nature, it's necessary to survive. Our ancestors didn't make it through by sacrificing their lives, did they?

To me putting self first is a no-brainer. My dilemma was in putting lover before family, and where to put money and friends. It does make it simpler when you only have one family member. If my mother was still alive family would have come before lover.

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Old 02-17-2005, 07:15 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Good points, Squishor. Agreed.

As for my response, I see my consciousness as the most evident aspect of my experience. Everything else on that list has to do with relationships to my self.

My list would be exceedingly brief. To wit:

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Old 02-17-2005, 07:27 AM   #38 (permalink)
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...interesting one...
I don`t really get it, can the folks who listed money over self please explain that decision to me? Sounds really illogical to me
I put money and family before self for the simple reason that in the current form of my life I chase money to provide for my family (wife and kids).

If I was more self centred I would care less about money and more about making me happy... as it is right now I care more about making them happy and keeping the fed and housed, etc.

If you were to have asked me to rate this list when I was in my 20s or teens I would have had self right up there at the top... I also fully expect that this list will be different later in my life... hell it could be different next year.
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Old 02-17-2005, 07:45 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Nope, not me. None of my friends have ever meant so much to me that I would die for them. And I only have one family member left, and if it really came down to it my choice would be clear. The only person I've known who I think might have made that sort of sacrifice for me was my mother, she's dead now though. (Not for that reason!) Are you seriously saying you'd literally die for your friends, or is it a metaphorical thing?
If it came down to it, yes I think I would. editted

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As for putting yourself first, of course that's being selfish. That's how we stay alive, like when we don't walk in front of trains and stuff. Seriously though, a certain degree of selfishness is not only inherent in human nature, it's necessary to survive. Our ancestors didn't make it through by sacrificing their lives, did they?
Huh? How is not wanting to walk in front of a train being selfish? Maybe we have different ideas of what Self is in this case, but I'm not really following what you mean. I didn't view Self as basic bodily functions or something like that. Basically how I rated this list was by pairing everything up and asking myself, "If I could only have one for the rest of my life, what would I rather have?"

So naturally money came last because I would much rather have my family and friends and be alive, than have money. [And actually now that I think about it, I should have put Career down next to Money.]

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Old 02-17-2005, 07:46 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Wow. Thats a tough list. Its probably inaccurate though. It probably changes regularly, and some of those things are tied so close that its hard to place one before the other. Such as Lover/Family/Friends, and Money/Career. It kind of saddens me that my spirituality is last on the list though.
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