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I'm not surprised that Kazaa is the most downloaded program.
I use it all the time.
I can't even count all the shit I have that I didn't pay shit for.
So I guess the question is. Does anyone have a problem with Kazaa? Almost everyone is using it. Everyone that is using it is stealing music, movies, and programs. I don't have a problem with it. I love geting shit for free.
It'll be a sad day if it gets shut down.

Junchbailey

I use it for mp3s, movies, games, porn, you name it. I have no problem with getting all that shit for free, especially music. If the RIAA weren't such dickheads by fixing CD prices, maybe more people will be willing to buy them.

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Frowning Budah

Yea, I feel guilty. Doesn't keep me from doing it though. I agree I would would be much more likely to buy the products if they were priced resonably.

Glory's Sun

I used to use Kazaa but now I use limewire. I don't mind getting mp3's and stuff but if it's a band I really like I still go out and buy the cd. I figure I might as well support the bands that I really like.

Double D

I feel much the same as Frowning Budah.

I only download music from Kazaa Lite. My problem with paying for an entire CD is that in most cases, there are maybe only three good songs on it. Kazaa and similar programs make it easy for me to pick the several songs I want to hear off a CD and leave the 7 or so others that are filler.

I know this ages me, but 20-25 years ago, one could buy an album and have the majority of songs be worth listening to. I think the recording artists need to pack a few more songs of quality into their CD's. I would be more inclined to purchase them if they did.

bullgoose

I have to go alongwith you on the uality of new music; basically it sucks. When Napster was all the rage, I D/L'ed my share of MP3's, but I listened to some of the new stuff and it just didn't do anything for me. As far as Kaaza goes, being on a dial-up, it's really not practical; I've decided to build a server, rip my 300+ CD collection to Ogg format, and just run it through my home audio system- I'm just getting ready to rip my first CD; I think it'll be Jimi Hendrix "Axis bold as Love". Then I get to try it out through my audio system; THAT oughta piss off the neighbors!

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The_Dude

i love kazaa

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BulletBob

When it comes down to it, using Kazaa does take money out of musicians pockets. So I do feel a little guilty because I know if I were in their postition I wouldn't be too happy about the situation.

spectre

I'm not surprised by this at all.

I download music that I either plan on buying or can't find anywhere else. I've already started listening to new bands because I liked what I heard after downloading. If anything, I spend more money on CDs now than I did before.

But I still prefer Soulseek for music.

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WhoaitsZ

oh my GOD at the trojans there must be!

i've downloaded kazaa twice. both times put 84 torjans on my pc.

a friend of mine got 350 after downloading it.

my favorite is still winmx, but oh well.

soulseek is really nice, also.

as for buying. untill some people are willing to lower costs some, i will not be buying a whole lot of things. not just ethical questioning, but i have no fucking $$!

lower cd prices and make some software that's not ungodly expensive and life and the economy would be much happier, i think.

like i said in chat last week, i don't think people enjoy stealing really. its just that we've found a way to NOT pay ungodly prices. give us fair prices and we shall buy. untill then, good luck on shutting us down.

TaLoN

the next big program is gonna be BitTorrent. it allows you to download from many more people at the same time than kazaa does. the only 2 problems with it right now is that the file selection is still building and it is not simple enough for computer noobs to use yet.

BBtB

Now does that number include just Kazaa or does it also include Kazaa lite and K++? Most of the people I know use Kazaa lite instead of actull kazaa (for obvious reasons)

And one thing I will add about being ashamed about "stealing" music from artist. First off for me its not really about the money. I WOULD be willing to buy the cd IF I wasn't buying a whole album for one or two good songs. And sadly that is how it is. Also I would be more inclined to buy the cd if I know more then about 3 cents would go to the artist themselves. Its real easy for a multi millionaire to say that my 16k a year ass should pay for everything they put out. Its still not going to happen. Had I payed for the cd for every mp3 I have ever downloaded we would be talking about upwards of 300 cds. Even if cds were 10 dollars a peice that would be $3000. Which I simply just do not have.

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phredgreen

i think they're missing an important point in trying to shut down these services. groups from far flung places that otherwise wouldn't be more than a garage band from uganda are becoming massive global acts because of this sharing...

i mainly use my kazaa to find stuff i wouldn't otherwise find in the stores. rare, obscure, and otherwise unavailable music is all readily available via kazaa... it's really a beautiful thing.

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BBtB

Sadly KaZaa is not that great for that. I mean it is still better then best buy but yea. I heard Audiogalixy used to be great for that. I downloaded it the week before it got shut down and never really messed with it much so ... yea.

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"I would like about three fiddy"

Miekle

I see nothing wrong in the use of Kazaa some of us are poor and want to learn how to use different programs like say 3dsmax. It cost a good 3k$, I'm a poor college student, never would be able to afford that and I am not really making profit or anything, Dazzeling my friends at the most but hey whatever works. Anyways its not like there isn't a fair share of downloading off there and another fair share of buying from the store. I'm sure once I get the money now that I have fiddled with maya, 3ds max and lightwave I will probably buy the one I like the most.

fearofmear

I use Kazaa Lite and have no apologies for it. If I download something I like, I usually go and get the album. I spend more money on music now then before Napster and Kazaa. I spend much less on music by the major labels and they are the ones who are suing. Independent music labels are in a boom period right now. Even when Kazaa is eventually shut down, there will always be another program to come along and take its place. Worst case scenarion is the RIAA closes down filesharing programs, there still is good ol FTP for music.

oldtimer

F America. They want us to be happy yet they want to take all our money!! This economy blows. I sure as hell know this country isn't getting any smaller, in fact, it's getting bigger, thanks to our mexican friends. So why not ,in a smarter perspective, lower prices on all major goods since there are more than enough people to buy them and have the companies still make a decent profit? Maybe its that supply and demand stuff, that there's just too damn many of us in this country and the demand is greater than the supply. Ah, I don't see us living farther than 2010 or better yet 2015. Overpopulation. Do we really have to keep saving lives?

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nefarious

it's quite funny .. the RIAA complains about Kazaa .. but the top files being traded on Kazaa are porn files ..

Wired article here: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,58665,00.html

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Force 10

I use iMesh as i can ad-aware all the crap outta it and it'll still run. and no, I don't have a problem getting stuff with imesh. If I like it that much, I'll buy it. It my way of testing things ya know? I support what i believe in. Piss on the rest. Muah ha ha ha!

BTW, i have 20gigs of music. too bad I can't directly share it with you all!

WhoaitsZ

woe are we. nobody has ever put a gun to our head and said "BUY THIS CD"

i like trading too where i can preview music/movies before paying. if its good, i buy. if its crap, it goess byebye.

the trojans were are normal Kazaa. i forgot someone mentioned the other ones to me.

and about mp3s helping. yes, they do help very much! i do not know how much a group makes on concerts, but if they do better from the royalties of a show i think they probably make more money off mp3s. i know a lot of people who've gone to concerts because of an mp3.

oh. i speak for me, myself, and I.

FuddMan

Kazaa is great, but I wonder how exactly it will evolve our current media distribution situation. If Kazaa's user base continues to grow, and broadband is the standard, piracy will be huge. Paying for music and movies will seem ridiculous...the RIAA and MPAA are going to need to some drastic shit

onodrim

I love Kazaa, its great! Unfortunately, the network at my school doens't share my love, and I can't use it here Hopefully one day they'll decide to get along better, and I can start getting free things again!

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gonadman

I think the artists should be compensated so I joined Rhapsody. But paying a buck a song got old REAL fast- especially when you pay in advance to rip a bunch of songs and there's a problem. Then you have to go through tech support for a credit.

Now I use Limewire. But I would use a pay service if the price was reasonable-say 10-20 cents a song

I think a lot more people would pay that to avoid the spyware and all the crap you get with Kazaa, and I think the music industry would make a helluva lot more money than pressing us for a buck a song now.

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nightmare

if they close it down, another one will be used. they can't do shit

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crewsor

I use kazaa lite. I don't feel guilty at all. The music and software industries have gotten more than enough money from me.

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krwlz

nightmare is entirely right...

GoldenOuroboros

I saw the subject line and thought 'hey it's gotta be kazaa' and ya know..

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Mango

I've downloaded the light version.

anleja

I use Kazaa Lite. I first used it to download copies of albums which I had purchased, but got stolen by my ex, or in one case, broken by my friend's drunken father. I figured, I gave these people money already for this music, why should I give it to them again for the same music? There are also rare songs you can't buy I find on there, I have CDs full of live stuff and B-sides. However, I would feel guilty by downloading an entire album when it is available at the store. Sure, everyone knows the record companies inflate the prices, but the artist gets ZERO when their stuff is downloaded. Just because an artist has an album out does not mean they are wealthy. Besides, I think the actual artwork with the album is part of the whole experience.

Reasonably priced "official" downloads would solve many of the problems, and besides, you would know you are getting files with excellent integrity.

Kyp

I use KaZaA Lite for all kinds of things. Most of the things I download I wouldn't buy even if I did have the money, which I don't, so really they aren't losing any money by me downloading the things. I'm gaining a little bit, and they're not losing anything. If these programs didn't exist for me to download, they still wouldn't have my money.

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ghostbuster

I hate kazaa... its shit, you get lots of virus and screwed up shit

snowace56

I kinda disagree with everyone. I think AIM is the most downloaded program. I don't know anyone who doesn't have it. I don't touch Kazaa, I have watched 3 friends computers go to hell from that program.

Meridae'n

Fuck, i wasn't aware that it screwed your computer at all. I've been using it for a year now and have had no probs at all.

I use it all the time, but if it's a band i really like, i'll buy the CD anyway...

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darksparkles

exactly...
i can't really afford to buy a lot of cd's and movies as it is. if i really, really like a cd, occasionally i'll buy it. it really depends if i have any money to spare.
i guess i'm just contributing to the high prices by downloading the music, but ah well.

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Frowning Budah

Let me clarify, I am using KaZaA Lite not the standard version. I have never had a problem or gotten any virus or trojan.

There are some very good points here. Maybe the music industry needs to take a look at how they are running their business instead of blaming their losses on file sharing.

redrum

kazaa = full of spyware, just look at the spyware tracking sites


winmx = spyware free

kazaa lite = totaly ripped program, still full of hidden spyware

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Glory's Sun

I don't have aim.. don't want it either. I don't like Kazaa either.. friends computer got screwed up after he loaded it..

HiThereDear

Seriously? Kazaa lite has hidden spyware??

Lestat

I do the same thing. If I like it I'll buy the CD.

manalone

I miss audiogalaxy. It was by far the best for music.

I use kazaa lite since I dislike spyware. I have no moral concerns, it's not doing anyone out of a job, since the thing is that I have bought most of my last few cds on the strength of an mp3.

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