Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community - What if these two women had met?

This just astounds me

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/11/wom....ap/index.html

Quote:

Police: Pregnant woman kills attacker

Friday, February 11, 2005 Posted: 1:48 PM EST (1848 GMT)

FORT MITCHELL, Kentucky (AP) -- A nine-months pregnant woman fought off and killed a knife-wielding woman who may have been trying to steal the baby, police said Friday.

Police said 26-year-old Sarah Brady acted in self-defense in killing Katherine Smith on Thursday. No charges were filed.

Smith, 22, had been falsely telling neighbors for weeks that she was pregnant, and a search of her apartment after her death revealed a full baby nursery, investigators said.

"She had everything in place that you'd expect to have in place with a newborn coming," said Steve Hensley, police chief in this Cincinnati suburb.

Brady, 26, was treated for cuts at a hospital.

Police said that about a week ago, Smith called Brady, a stranger, and asked her to come over and pick up a mistakenly delivered package.

Brady picked up the package, the two spoke briefly and she left, according to police.

Thursday's attack occurred after Brady went to pick up a second package at Smith's apartment, police said.

In December, a Missouri woman was strangled and her baby was cut from her womb. The baby was later found alive, and a Kansas woman was charged with kidnapping resulting in death.

Then you have this one

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/11/new...sed/index.html

Quote:

Authorities say baby never tossed from car
Sheriff: Woman who reported incident is boy's mother

Friday, February 11, 2005 Posted: 3:50 PM EST (2050 GMT)

FORT LAUDERDALE, Florida (CNN) -- A woman who reported seeing a newborn tossed out of a moving car made up the story and is the boy's mother, Broward County Sheriff Ken Jenne said Friday.

The woman didn't want her family to know about the child, Jenne said.

Patricia Pokriots, 38, "made up an incredible story," Jenne said.

She was questioned Friday and acknowledged what she had done, he said.

Jenne said the infant is healthy and doing well. He has no bruises or scratches.

Under Florida law, a parent or relative can turn a newborn over to authorities with no questions asked during the first three days of his or her life.

"The only charge I can think of charging against [Pokriots] would be making a false police report," the sheriff said.

Pokriots learned she was pregnant a couple of months ago, he said. He described her as a large woman, noting that the pregnancy may not have shown as early as it may have on someone else.

Pokriots was taken to a hospital Friday and committed for observation "at our urging," he said.

Authorities will seek court permission to take the infant as well as another son, who is 10, into state custody, he said. In her statement, she has made clear she wants to give up the infant, Jenne said.

The Broward County Sheriff's Office said the woman told authorities she was driving Thursday afternoon in a residential area of northern Fort Lauderdale when she saw a man and woman arguing in a car.

A bundle flew out the window as the car slowed and landed on grass by the road, the woman told authorities, and she found a baby boy with a plastic bag over his head.

The baby was flown via helicopter to Broward Medical Center. The 8-pound, 2-ounce boy was only hours old and still had his umbilical cord attached, authorities said.

But Jenne said there are no signs of medical problems. The infant is "absolutely perfect," he said.

Nurses nicknamed the boy "Johny" after his attending physician, Johny Tryzmel.

When Pokriots first turned the child in, she seemed nervous, Jenne said, but her behavior didn't seem unusual for someone who witnessed what she said she did.

As authorities questioned her later on, they began to sense that her story was shaky, he said.

Under questioning Friday, Pokriots acknowledged fabricating the story, Jenne said.

She said she "gave birth in the bathroom of her mother's house at 1:30 on Thursday," he said. She said that she decided to drive to a fire station to leave the baby -- which is legal under the Florida law.

On the way, she saw two people in a white car arguing, and "she decided to build a story around it," Jenne said.

Other witnesses saw the same couple in the same white car arguing, he said.

"She pulled up to our district office and brought the baby inside," he said.

Pokriots works as a waitress at a bar and has a previous charge of aggravated battery, he said.

Authorities said many people have called saying they want to adopt the infant, but they said he is not up for adoption now.

you have two ends of the spectrum making national news on the same day. I honestly dont understand desperation like this :confused: