greytone

It has all been said but this case deserves endless comments.

First of all, I don't even answer the phone after 9 and I would be pissed if someone rang my doorbell that late. I just have to get up too early. I would not open the door either. But I would sleep just fine and if I had an upset stomach the next morning I certainly would not associate it with the previous nights events.

This woman is a real piece of work. She makes me question the future of humanity. The fact that this is the dumbest lawsuit I have ever heard of should have been enough to get it kicked out of court. The fact she did not go to the ER until the next day should make it clear she was full of it. Clearly she was just being greedy when she refused to let the girls cover her unnecessary expenses.

But the best part is that her husband has been harrasing the girls and their families. I can not believe that they could not turn that into a lawsuit to recoup their losses in the first case.

I hope the woman and her husband are run off the planet.

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Hardknock

That's the last time those girls will ever do anything nice for anyone. At least for a while. Sad.

Manuel Hong

There are people like this crab in every neighborhood. Happy ending? Karmic justice? Maybe.
The girls didn't have to pay due to others' generosity...their good deed comes home. I'm glad to see that people rallied to help out the young girls.
Battleaxe's life is in upheaval, she's unhappy...her crap came right home too. If she hasn't learned anything, then she'll spread that attitude somewhere else.

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analog

THEY FUCKIGN OFFERED TO PAY HER MEDICAL EXPENSES, AND SHE TOOK THEM TO COURT ANYWAY!! What the FUCK is wrong with some people??? And 49 is NOT fucking elderly. My MOM is nearing 49, and I'm 24 next month.

AND WHAT LESSON???!?!?!? There's not enough cursing I can do in this thread to express my frustration and anger at the stupidity of this woman.

Also, I'm very glad that someone (the radio station) stepped in to uphold common sense and help out these two girls. Hell, I'd donate money just to teach that stupid bitch a lesson in being a decent fucking human being.

greeneyes

Yes, but would it work? Would the woman learn a lesson? Sadly, no, she would just victimize herself all over again.

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Manic_Skafe

Regardless of how unfortunate the circumstances get for the girls it is only through their actions that this entire situation exists. I'm not doubting the fact that this woman and her husband are sour apples who took things a bit too far but none of us where there and we haven't a clue as to what actually went on. There's no point in speculating about this woman's character and the validity of her claims when there's the conclusion of a court of law for us to go on.

It's an unfortunate situation but it's not the place of our court system to completely disregard the rights of people because of the intentions of others.

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Strange Famous

if I posted what i felt about this it would probably just get deleted... so I wont... but the judge who gave this award has brought great humiliation on his office and his court, it is just utterly amazing that such a decision could be made.

I am glad at least that the radio station stepped in to pay the girls fines.

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moot1337

Sometimes I can't believe the behavior of people.... First of all, 49 isn't very elderly, and she had a husband. Being in Colorado... well, I'm not even going to go into that...

But, still. These girls offered to pay near $900 in medical costs for the woman who was apparently so scared that she had to go to the ER (GASP! someone's left cookies on my doorstep with paper hearts and the signatures of a couple neighborhood girls that I know!!! SOMEONE HAS IT IN FOR ME!!! THE APOCOLYPSE IS NIGH!!!)... and yet she took them to court ANYWAY! This just screams at me "lawsuit for personal gain, spite the suffering and goodwill of the people!"... really, it's sad what people will try to do in order to get a few extra bucks these days. It really teaches everyone the lesson that no matter what you do, no matter what your intentions, someone will always be standing by to see how they can profit from your tiniest flaws.

... I think this woman deserves whatever she gets, and hopefully she'll move her filthy deeds somewhere that I don't have to worry about getting sued for honking at her while she jaywalks in front of me... (hearing loss! emotional damages!!)

w@3n$ch.

Astrocloud

But who would eat cookies that they found on their doorstep? What if they are Ex-Lax chip cookies?

raeanna74

Their actions say they were willing to pay the woman's medical bills regardless of how responsible they may have felt for the bills. To me the situation should have been left there and never gone to court.


The court should not have allowed this woman to railroad the girls and charge them for court costs when she just as well could have gotten the medical bills paid WITHOUT the court costs. Because of the woman's lack of cooperation with the girls I don't believe that she should have been awarded the money. It reflects an unforgiving, spiteful, and possibly greedy attitude. Why else would she have taken the girls to court when they were willing to make things right in the first place?

And INTENTIONS play a large part in our courts. The question of whether harm was INTENDED to a person can mean more to a judgement than what specific harm was done.

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yellowchef

I never said the punnishment fit the crime. I said the girls and their parents were showing a SEVERE LACK of responsibility on their behalf. Granted she isnt "elderly" but she is older, and has a family. Many people I know that have families or a career are at home and in bed by 9 or 10, these people are also 30 and up so I dont find it so weird. Hell by 9pm my parents are at least in their bedroom if not already asleep, by 10:30 my Dad would have met you with a shotgun. Those girls would have had 2 lead sammiches and a side of steel. I dont agree that they were forced to pay her medical bill and court costs, but they should have known better.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/nati...s/1229527.html

The girls wrote letters of apology to Young, with Taylor saying in part, "I just wanted you to know that someone cared about you and your family."

The families had offered to pay Young's medical bills if she would agree to indemnify the families against future claims. Young wouldn't sign the agreement. She said the families' apologies rang false and weren't delivered in person, so she brought the matter to court.

you know what, fuck this lady.. hardcore. Shes just after money, and I dont care that she'll have to move.. GOOD one less pest in the neighborhood. The families offered to handle this like civil human beings without dragging it to court. I thought that the lady had just been a little crazy and taken it straight to court. The girls probably didnt come in person to deliver an apology because they were fearful. Writing a letter takes time and thought. A letter is much more heartfelt than an e mail or phone call. At first I thought the girls were out a bit late and had made a terrible judgement on when to be out. Now I cant say that I agree. The families agreed to pay her medical bills, yet she still took it to court to seek "punitive damages". From either article I cant see what punitive damages would need to be recouped.. but from the daily breeze article I cand DEFINATELY see shes just in it for the money. I wouldnt be shocked if she sought moving costs from the girls because of threats against her life.

This lady is dumb. I want to cart her off to an island with all the other dumb people.

raeanna74

I just noticed this phrase " She thought they were burglars or some neighbors she had tangled with in the past, she said."

Neighbors she'd tangled with? Was she living in a bad neighborhood or just didn't have a good relationship with her neighbors? Was she pissy with her other neighbors? Makes one wonder why she thought this.

Oh and "A kitchen light was on at Young's home." so there's no reason for them to have suspected that everyone was in bed.

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drakers

Some people are ridiculous, young people can't get away from the tag line "causing disturbances". We do something nice, but it isn't good enough because some wacko is crazy in the head.

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Hain

Ok, that ruling was absolute bullshit. It's clear the lady has extreme paranoia and shouldn't be part of society. If that lady had half a brain stem she should have called the police. But no. This lady is one of those that I would purposely through a restraining order wrapped around a brick through her window. And if anyone likes this post, you'll love this story (Anyone remembers it or can find the article since I am bound by dial up internet, post the link).

A man began choking in a restaurant (I believe it was an allergic reaction to food that closed his wind pipe) and a medical doctor saved his life by performing a tracheotomy with a steak knife and straw. This man had the gall to sue this doctor for a scar that was left on his neck. I say to hell with that scar. If I were that doctor, I would threaten to use that knife again.

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TexanAvenger

I can see a bunch of girl scouts daring each other to try and hit her up on cookie sales this year...

"Go ahead, it'll be fine. Don't be such a scaredy-cat."
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splck

Colorado has a curfew? I had no idea they still had curfews in the states. wtf is with that?

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StanT

Dang, I'm only weeks away from being labeled elderly? I'm gonna have to use a walker to go skiing and put training wheels on my motorcycle. She's just a cranky lady, age doesn't have anything to do with it.

greeneyes

Yeah, and it sucked when I was in high school. I played tennis and when we made semi-state, if your parents couldn't attend the match, you couldn't play because in Indiana, it isn't enough to chaperoned by a teacher or coach. I was captain of my team and almost missed semi-state because my parents both have jobs and other children... imagine that.

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yellowchef

I use the term elderly loosely, she was acting like an old lady, Im gonna call her an old lady.

kurtisj

dont get me wrong, id be pissed if some bastard kids rang my doorbell and ran off at 10 30, but sueing them, thats a little ridiculous. i wonder if she ate the cookies...

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StanT

I thought it was amusing, actually.

yellowchef

my dad is older than the lady.. and hes anything but elderly... senile.. but not elderly

MoonDog

I have to agree with Analog...WTF!

This should not have made it as far as it did. The judge should have said, "Fine - pay the med bills and get this piece of shit case off my docket"! Honestly, I'd be willing to bet that there is some bad blood between those involved, and that we don't know the full story on either side.

Manic_Skafe

You weren't there when the girls dropped off the cookies. You weren't there to see the woman's reaction. You weren't there when the court was hearing the case.

You should feel free to have your opinions on this matter just as I do - as long as you aknowledge that they're irrelevant.

I'm not one for speculation but since the seems to be the name of the game, I'll play. Let's assume that these girls weren't the little sweet hearts they claimed to be. Judging by their actions (the delivering of cookies at a "late" hour and the "terrorizing" of an "elderly" woman) shouldn't we assume that these are the same sort of people who wouldn't pay the woman's medical bills? Who's to say the woman went to far? In regards to their character, what do we have to go on?

This is why I suggested we just go along with the decisions of the court.

I agree, it's certainly a nasty way to go about things but, realistically, the woman didn't do anything more than capitalize on an option the girls left open to her. Two wrongs don't make a right but this situation wouldn't exist were it not for the actions of those girls (and the evident negligence of their parents).

What about the possibility that the woman was effected exactly in the manner that she claims to have been? It's pretty obvious that the woman has worked pretty hard to facilitate all of this but what if it all went as she said it did? Should she be forced to pay her own medical bills for a situation she did nothing to create?

These circumstances demonstrate the difference between what "feels right" and what is true. Justice doesn't always conincide with our feelings and it's not the job of our court system to decide a ruiling on how a case feels. In the face of the relentless veracity of justice, our opinions and what "feels right" are irrelevant.

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troit

There has got to be more to this story.

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dirtyrascal7

here's some more: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=493733&page=1

obviously, troit is right... there is more too this than everyone is assuming. when i read the original story, i pictured a normal suburban neighborhood with houses not even 30 feet apart, but that doesn't appear to be true. does this fact make the lady right? who knows... she obviously feels she did the right thing. while many of us wouldn't have taken the situation to such extremes or gotten so worked up over it, that doesn't mean this lady is completely wrong for what she did.

i still support the two girls because their actions were quite innocent, but i feel bad for judging the woman so harshly after filling in many of the story's holes myself and making large assumptions that were incorrect.

i think the most interesting part of this situation is how the media can take a point of view and lead their audience to make certain conclusions or take certain sides... the original story was certainly biased in favor of the two girls, and not coincidentally, so are nearly all of the replies in this thread.

flstf

Looks like the suing couple have had some problems.

Lin

More evidence of how this world is going crazy.

What we need is more people like these young girls who have community spirit , and less of the 'someone else should pay for this' culture.

Very very sad.

Coppertop

I am guessing this woman bought large quantities of plastic sheeting and duct tape in the not so distant past.

muttonglutton

I have a word for that.

Ridonkulous.

See, they're cookies. They said "Have a great night". Not "I'm a creepy stalker dude who is making cyanide suicide cookies and wants you to join this crazy cult where we worship the inventor of bubble wrap. Eat them and be safe for eternity." NO! They didn't say that! "Have a great night."

If you manage to have a heart attack over that, you have bigger problems. Problems that $900 from a couple of goodwilled teenagers will not fix.

Once again, a slap from the common sense glove. Every judge should keep one on his desk, right beside the gavel.

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sprocket

How has this lady made it this far in life when all it takes is the ringing of a doorbell at 10:30 to send her to the ER? Simply amazing. With anxiety levels that high it shouldnt take long before she worries herself to death.. literally. hopefully she doesnt have any offspring.

If I were in the same situation id go back to the lady's house at 11:30.. ring the doorbell.. and set of some loud fireworks.. run. The problem would take care of itself.

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zxello

thats the stupid bitch lol.

im currently looking for her address to send her some cookies (nothing wrong with them, just homemade chocolate cookies)

Another Article...

ROFL -

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Strange Famous

in my opinion this women should be pelted with rotten fruit every time she steps into public for the next ten years.

is that too harsh?

And to say that she was only seeking payment of her medical bills is a lie. It is possible the girls didnt offer to pay the medical bills (as was widely publicized) but the simple and straightforward fact is that the suit sought puniative damges.

Because someone knocked on her door and left her some cookies. And as for all this climbing through ditches and over fences bullshit, are we seriously expected that these people crawl through a ditch every time they go to and from their house?

The woman also has a history of bringing stupid lawsuits... she is just a crook, trying to exploit a simple act of kindness. Luckily the girls did not suffer, because their fines were instantly paid by donations of normal citizens.

The women and the husband who brought the suit are scum. its that simple.

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Lin

hang on!! theyve been robbed of their laughter , her spirit and soul has died ...I feel another law suit coming on

lordpoopshank

The cookies were probably missing some ingredient...stupid teenagers and their lack of cookie making skillz.

pattycakes

this lady probably had health insuance or something to that effect atleast25 - 50% GOT PAID SHE MADE ABOUT 400 PROFIT WOO HOO

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