Why do you watch the Super Bowl if you don't like football? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Lockjaw · 01-31-2005, 08:17 AM

Wasn't sure if this belonged in the Sports section but I felt that I wouldn't get the answers I was seeking if I put it in the section where the sports fans gathered.

I mainly just want to know why people who could care nothing about the game of football 364 other days of the year get all excited when the Super Bowl rolls around? Now I know the NFL has fostered a lot of this by turning the Super Bowl into more of a media thing instead of concentrating on the GAME but this just confuses and bothers me. I mean just 12 years ago the Super Bowl was still kind of more football than anything but now it's nothing more than what commercials were shown,and what controversy was raised during halftime.
Nothing is more annoying to me than sitting next to the person who knows nothing about football during the game yammering their freakin heads off about the last commercial or about the latest fashion or something.
WHY?!
I mean it would be like me going to a Tonies watching party and yaking about a 3-4 defense the entire night. I don't go because I couldn't care less about the stuff. Yet amongst my friend's its almost required that you bring along one or two or fifteen talking heads who aren't interested in the game to the party. These people then eat up all the food,drink all the drinks,block the TV and talk over the sound in the main room so much that the football fans end up watching the game in the other room on an ity bity TV only to have our fun spoiled by the interlopers crowding into our last bastion asking what we are yelling about while the same thing just happened in the other room on the TV with color.

/rant

The_wall · 01-31-2005, 08:23 AM

Lay down some ground rules to anyone going to your party, if they can't let you watch the game tell them to leave. I would be pissed if that happend to me, especially since I'm a die hard Pats fan.

ShaniFaye · 01-31-2005, 08:30 AM

you forgot the option....I'm a female, I dont care, neither does my S/O cause he cant stand football and we wont be watching cause we'll be having sex

Mojo_PeiPei · 01-31-2005, 08:36 AM

I'm personally a fan because I enjoy watching hundreds of commercials about erectial dysfunction...

Glory's Sun · 01-31-2005, 08:48 AM

why? well because it's a great excuse to have a party.. I'm a football fan so it comes naturally We invite other people to join these parties even if they don't like football because it's fun to get drunk with people.

Charlatan · 01-31-2005, 08:51 AM

I don't watch the Superbowl or care... Never really big on televised sports (Olympics are the exception).

kurty[B] · 01-31-2005, 08:59 AM

What about, "I watch for the commercials" option. That's what I used to do, lately they've been sucking too.

Now, it's another excuse to eat an assortment of snacks and fatty food I'd normally never eat, and it's my one day of the year I allow myself to feed my EZCheese addiction, and then I just make margaritas and drink and drink till I I can't see the score anymore.

This year I will probably go snowboarding instead though.

SecretMethod70 · 01-31-2005, 09:44 AM

I won't be watching friends reruns but I certainly won't be watching the Super Bowl. I just won't be watching anything...I'm sure I can find something more important and/or entertaining to do.

pig · 01-31-2005, 10:04 AM

Lockjaw,

I can't answer that question, but I completely agree with your point. In fact, I personally fail to understand why people who have never played a particular sport / don't play a particular sport care as much as some people do. I know people who have no athletic talent or desire to cultivate any, who can throw off sports statistics like it was going out of style. I'm not coming down on them - do what you like - but I don't understand it. The only reason I can understand watching professional athletes play is if you want to learn from their technique. Otherwise, like Secret said, I can frankly think of a lot of other things I would rather do which I consider more productive. Then again, I'm one of those a$$holes who doesn't own a T.V., etc.

warrrreagl · 01-31-2005, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SecretMethod70

I won't be watching friends reruns but I certainly won't be watching the Super Bowl. I just won't be watching anything...I'm sure I can find something more important and/or entertaining to do.

I agree with SM70, here. My choice wasn't on the poll, which is that my wife and I will go to the movies during the Super Bowl. We usually make it a double-feature on Super Bowl Sunday, and it's always a terrific time to go.

Rdr4evr · 01-31-2005, 11:01 AM

I personally can't stomach people who watch the Superbowl for commercials, getting drunk, acting stupid, partying, and all the other non-sense reasons people participate.

More than likely, 60% of the viewers don't have the slightest clue as to what the actual game is about as they’re more concerned with which pathetic band is performing at half time or which commercial was the most entertaining. Quite frankly, the big game has become far too commercialized and what it’s really about has been forgotten…sad really.

Anyway, I usually watch the game home alone simply because I am watching it for the game, no other reason at all, although this years game is going to be ultra lame (seriously, does anyone care to see the Patsies again?), I’m still looking forward to it.

World's King · 01-31-2005, 11:23 AM

It's something to do. And it gives me an excuse to drink. Not that I've ever needed one before.

Fly · 01-31-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

I don't watch the Superbowl or care... Never really big on televised sports (Olympics are the exception).

yeah and...........the Grey Cup was given away in November anyways.....

01-31-2005, 11:36 AM

I only like the really violent teams, I'm a Raiders guy... so when you put up two completely wack teams against eachother in the superbowl like this year, i'll only be in it for the booooooooooze.

rmarshall · 01-31-2005, 11:39 AM

I only watch on the odd chance somebody's boob will fall out of their clothes.

Lebell · 01-31-2005, 11:39 AM

I watch for the wardrobe malfunctions.

Grancey · 01-31-2005, 11:47 AM

I never watch the Super Bowl. However, last year I caught the half-time show while I was getting ready to go out. Not quite what I was expecting. That one incident has caused so much controversy. No, I won't be watching this year.

Powderedmaggot · 01-31-2005, 12:21 PM

I don't watch the super bowel and I sure as fuck will not be watching Friends. I'm going powder skiing all weekend.

Bobaphat · 01-31-2005, 12:40 PM

I enjoy the socialization and the excuse to eat crap and drink beer. I also enjoy a good game, but I have no emotional stock in the teams playing. I also am one who enjoys seeing what kinds of commercials will air during the bowl.

Bill O'Rights · 01-31-2005, 01:11 PM

One word...PARTY.
It's just that simple.
Hey, Shani...I'll be thinking of ya at halftime.

Captain Nemo · 01-31-2005, 01:14 PM

Put me in the "I won't be watching but I sure as hell won't be watching Friends"

I'll be watching my new Thunderbirds DVD's

drakers · 01-31-2005, 03:58 PM

Agree....Party....with my 3 year son. He likes watching football too though, hopefully the commercials are funnier this year and the halftime show has more boobage (lol) this year.

Hardknock · 01-31-2005, 06:00 PM

Simple. I don't.

Blackthorn · 01-31-2005, 06:30 PM

The choices are missing a few that could apply:

- I'm more than a casual fan and I've invested serious cash on this game
- It's an event and I have friends that wish to throw a good par-tay to enjoy it
- I love the commercials and can't wait to count the number of erectile dysfunction ads they play!
- Two words: Janet Jackson

(** that is just a joke...okay? Okay. **)

Personally for me...neither of these teams is from my hood so I really don't give a hoot who wins. The party however is at my house so I'll be serving top shelf booze and some darn good eats

Doors open at 4pm...

maleficent · 01-31-2005, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackthorn

Doors open at 4pm...

Excellent -- what'd you say your address was?

If my beloved Giants aren't playing, then the Super Bowl doesn't mean a whole lot except a chance to dust off my crock pot and make a steaming pot of extra spicey chili and some other good vittels, and spend a relaxiing afternoon with some friends.

JumpinJesus · 01-31-2005, 07:21 PM

I don't even have any friends with whom to pretend I like football.

heyal256 · 01-31-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei

I'm personally a fan because I enjoy watching hundreds of commercials about erectial dysfunction...

Well I guess this would be the poll option for me

While I am not big on watching sports, I generally know enough to keep up with most sports. Also, how often is the Superbowl a close game? I consider the game being close or at least interesting better to keep me entertained while waiting for the commercials.

Squishor · 01-31-2005, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye

you forgot the option....I'm a female, I dont care, neither does my S/O cause he cant stand football and we wont be watching cause we'll be having sex

Ditto. I care so little about football, I don't even know what I'n doing in this thread. Don't worry, I won't be spoiling your party.

Lockjaw · 01-31-2005, 08:54 PM

Because even football haters are attracted to the two words "Super" and "Bowl" like moths to a flame.

Just a question though for the folks who go to Super Bowl parties who aren't fans...would you go to say...a watching party for Desperate Housewives if you weren't really a fan of that?
And also would any of you get offended if the football fans asked you to pipe down in the middle of the game?

jstory · 01-31-2005, 09:46 PM

I watch the superbowl to show off my new HDTV

Jesus Pimp · 01-31-2005, 10:21 PM

Gotta root for the home team. Go EaGLEs!

splck · 02-01-2005, 05:43 AM

Ah yes...the boring bowl....
Despite football being the second most boring game on Earth (baseball being the most boring), I travel down to the states almost every year for the game. The beer and food, along with a soak in the hot tub make the game almost worth while..

Drider_it · 02-01-2005, 06:08 AM

i would vote if you had put in the option

"oh come on.. everyone knows the best comercials are during the super bowl"

only reason i watch them.. last few years best way to see star wars trailers.

Fly · 02-01-2005, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by splck

I travel down to the states almost every year for the game. The beer and food, along with a soak in the hot tub make the game almost worth while..

say hi to them all for me too splck.

you lucky bastard.

Bill O'Rights · 02-01-2005, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lockjaw

Just a question though for the folks who go to Super Bowl parties who aren't fans...would you go to say...a watching party for Desperate Housewives if you weren't really a fan of that?

Why not? For the past three years Mrs. O'Rights has dragged me, in my tux, to an Academy Awards party, at a hotel ballroom. I can't say "lame" loudly enough, but it makes her happy. *shrug*

StanT · 02-01-2005, 07:56 AM

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Why DO you the non-fan care about the Super Bowl?

If the Bears or Broncos aren't playing, I couldn't care less. It will be a great day to go skiing. No one on the slopes or interstate.

Lockjaw · 02-01-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights

Why not? For the past three years Mrs. O'Rights has dragged me, in my tux, to an Academy Awards party, at a hotel ballroom. I can't say "lame" loudly enough, but it makes her happy. *shrug*

That actually made me physically shudder in terror at the thought.

Grasshopper Green · 02-01-2005, 10:43 AM

I'm in the "I don't care and won't be watching Friends" category. We don't have cable and therefore, have no reception on our TV. I haven't watched TV in over four months, and I don't miss it one bit. Hubby and I will probably catch a movie that day, we usually do that on Sundays anyway.

Karby · 02-01-2005, 01:36 PM

i don't care...and i sure as hell won't be watching "Friends"...or anything else for that matter...i need to study. a lot.

bad jane · 02-02-2005, 02:30 AM

i don't give a rats ass about super bowl personally. i'm not, nor have i ever been, a football fan.

growing up however, my parents always watched and they always had a party. so it became a tradition of sorts to celebrate. my current bf is a huge football fan--he watches the games and then wants to watch espn recap the same game he just watched, for hours. he particularly enjoys going to a sports bar so he can watch 4 different games being played at once (which is amazing to me--he can't hear a word i say if he's watching only one game, but he can pay attention to 4 games on different sets at the same time?).

why do i care? i don't. why will i go to the party? because my bf wants me there. the only joy i get is booze and commercials. please, don't begrudge me those two simple pleasures as i sit through a couple of hours of torture in the name of love.

and no, i wouldn't get upset if someone told me to shut up mid-game. however, i know for a fact that anyone who's watching the game can't really hear me as they are incapable of understanding anything that doesn't pertain to the actual game (as evidenced all season long).

View Poll Results: Why DO you the non-fan care about the Super Bowl?
I don't and I'll be watching my reruns of Friends on Sunday.	15	31.91%
I care because I just like to be part of a crowd even though I'm not really wanted.	2	4.26%
I don't care but I go because the food is free and the beer is cold.	20	42.55%
I'm a fan and I wish the Super Bowl fans would stay home and watch the game alone.	10	21.28%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

01-31-2005, 08:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
Lockjaw Junkie	Why do you watch the Super Bowl if you don't like football? Wasn't sure if this belonged in the Sports section but I felt that I wouldn't get the answers I was seeking if I put it in the section where the sports fans gathered. I mainly just want to know why people who could care nothing about the game of football 364 other days of the year get all excited when the Super Bowl rolls around? Now I know the NFL has fostered a lot of this by turning the Super Bowl into more of a media thing instead of concentrating on the GAME but this just confuses and bothers me. I mean just 12 years ago the Super Bowl was still kind of more football than anything but now it's nothing more than what commercials were shown,and what controversy was raised during halftime. Nothing is more annoying to me than sitting next to the person who knows nothing about football during the game yammering their freakin heads off about the last commercial or about the latest fashion or something. WHY?! I mean it would be like me going to a Tonies watching party and yaking about a 3-4 defense the entire night. I don't go because I couldn't care less about the stuff. Yet amongst my friend's its almost required that you bring along one or two or fifteen talking heads who aren't interested in the game to the party. These people then eat up all the food,drink all the drinks,block the TV and talk over the sound in the main room so much that the football fans end up watching the game in the other room on an ity bity TV only to have our fun spoiled by the interlopers crowding into our last bastion asking what we are yelling about while the same thing just happened in the other room on the TV with color. /rant Last edited by Lockjaw; 01-31-2005 at 08:21 AM..

01-31-2005, 08:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
The_wall Psycho Location: Rhode Island biatches!	Lay down some ground rules to anyone going to your party, if they can't let you watch the game tell them to leave. I would be pissed if that happend to me, especially since I'm a die hard Pats fan. __________________ "We do what we like and we like what we do!"~andrew Wk Procrastinate now, don't put off to the last minute.

01-31-2005, 08:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	you forgot the option....I'm a female, I dont care, neither does my S/O cause he cant stand football and we wont be watching cause we'll be having sex __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

01-31-2005, 08:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	I'm personally a fan because I enjoy watching hundreds of commercials about erectial dysfunction... __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

01-31-2005, 08:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	why? well because it's a great excuse to have a party.. I'm a football fan so it comes naturally We invite other people to join these parties even if they don't like football because it's fun to get drunk with people.

01-31-2005, 08:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	I don't watch the Superbowl or care... Never really big on televised sports (Olympics are the exception). __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

01-31-2005, 08:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
kurty[B] Sauce Puppet	What about, "I watch for the commercials" option. That's what I used to do, lately they've been sucking too. Now, it's another excuse to eat an assortment of snacks and fatty food I'd normally never eat, and it's my one day of the year I allow myself to feed my EZCheese addiction, and then I just make margaritas and drink and drink till I I can't see the score anymore. This year I will probably go snowboarding instead though.

01-31-2005, 09:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	I won't be watching friends reruns but I certainly won't be watching the Super Bowl. I just won't be watching anything...I'm sure I can find something more important and/or entertaining to do. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

01-31-2005, 10:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
pig pigglet pigglet Location: Locash	Lockjaw, I can't answer that question, but I completely agree with your point. In fact, I personally fail to understand why people who have never played a particular sport / don't play a particular sport care as much as some people do. I know people who have no athletic talent or desire to cultivate any, who can throw off sports statistics like it was going out of style. I'm not coming down on them - do what you like - but I don't understand it. The only reason I can understand watching professional athletes play is if you want to learn from their technique. Otherwise, like Secret said, I can frankly think of a lot of other things I would rather do which I consider more productive. Then again, I'm one of those a$$holes who doesn't own a T.V., etc. __________________ You don't love me, you just love my piggy style

01-31-2005, 11:01 AM	#11 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	I personally can't stomach people who watch the Superbowl for commercials, getting drunk, acting stupid, partying, and all the other non-sense reasons people participate. More than likely, 60% of the viewers don't have the slightest clue as to what the actual game is about as they’re more concerned with which pathetic band is performing at half time or which commercial was the most entertaining. Quite frankly, the big game has become far too commercialized and what it’s really about has been forgotten…sad really. Anyway, I usually watch the game home alone simply because I am watching it for the game, no other reason at all, although this years game is going to be ultra lame (seriously, does anyone care to see the Patsies again?), I’m still looking forward to it.

01-31-2005, 11:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	It's something to do. And it gives me an excuse to drink. Not that I've ever needed one before. __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

01-31-2005, 11:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
thinktank Guest	I only like the really violent teams, I'm a Raiders guy... so when you put up two completely wack teams against eachother in the superbowl like this year, i'll only be in it for the booooooooooze.

01-31-2005, 11:39 AM	#15 (permalink)
rmarshall Addict Location: Kingston,Ontario	I only watch on the odd chance somebody's boob will fall out of their clothes.

01-31-2005, 11:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	I watch for the wardrobe malfunctions. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

01-31-2005, 06:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
Hardknock Republican slayer Location: WA	Simple. I don't.

01-31-2005, 11:47 AM	#17 (permalink)
Grancey Life's short, gotta hurry... Location: land of pit vipers	I never watch the Super Bowl. However, last year I caught the half-time show while I was getting ready to go out. Not quite what I was expecting. That one incident has caused so much controversy. No, I won't be watching this year. __________________ Quiet, mild-mannered souls might just turn out to be roaring lions of two-fisted cool.

01-31-2005, 12:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
Powderedmaggot Banned	I don't watch the super bowel and I sure as fuck will not be watching Friends. I'm going powder skiing all weekend.

01-31-2005, 12:40 PM	#19 (permalink)
Bobaphat whoopity doo Location: Seattle	I enjoy the socialization and the excuse to eat crap and drink beer. I also enjoy a good game, but I have no emotional stock in the teams playing. I also am one who enjoys seeing what kinds of commercials will air during the bowl. __________________ --size matters not-- yoda

01-31-2005, 01:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	One word...PARTY. It's just that simple. Hey, Shani...I'll be thinking of ya at halftime. __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

01-31-2005, 01:14 PM	#21 (permalink)
Captain Nemo Insane Location: In a forest of red tape (but hey, I have scissors)	Put me in the "I won't be watching but I sure as hell won't be watching Friends" I'll be watching my new Thunderbirds DVD's

01-31-2005, 03:58 PM	#22 (permalink)
drakers Psycho Location: IOWA	Agree....Party....with my 3 year son. He likes watching football too though, hopefully the commercials are funnier this year and the halftime show has more boobage (lol) this year.

01-31-2005, 06:30 PM	#24 (permalink)
Blackthorn Beware the Mad Irish Location: Wish I was on the N17...	The choices are missing a few that could apply: - I'm more than a casual fan and I've invested serious cash on this game - It's an event and I have friends that wish to throw a good par-tay to enjoy it - I love the commercials and can't wait to count the number of erectile dysfunction ads they play! - Two words: Janet Jackson ( that is just a joke...okay? Okay. ) Personally for me...neither of these teams is from my hood so I really don't give a hoot who wins. The party however is at my house so I'll be serving top shelf booze and some darn good eats Doors open at 4pm... __________________ What are you willing to give up in order to get what you want?

01-31-2005, 07:21 PM	#26 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	I don't even have any friends with whom to pretend I like football. __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses

01-31-2005, 08:54 PM	#29 (permalink)
Lockjaw Junkie	Because even football haters are attracted to the two words "Super" and "Bowl" like moths to a flame. Just a question though for the folks who go to Super Bowl parties who aren't fans...would you go to say...a watching party for Desperate Housewives if you weren't really a fan of that? And also would any of you get offended if the football fans asked you to pipe down in the middle of the game?

01-31-2005, 09:46 PM	#30 (permalink)
jstory Crazy	I watch the superbowl to show off my new HDTV

01-31-2005, 10:21 PM	#31 (permalink)
Jesus Pimp The Original JizzSmacka	Gotta root for the home team. Go EaGLEs! __________________ Never date anyone who doesn't make your dick hard.

02-01-2005, 05:43 AM	#32 (permalink)
splck it's jam Location: Lowerainland BC	Ah yes...the boring bowl.... Despite football being the second most boring game on Earth (baseball being the most boring), I travel down to the states almost every year for the game. The beer and food, along with a soak in the hot tub make the game almost worth while.. __________________ nice line eh?

02-01-2005, 06:08 AM	#33 (permalink)
Drider_it Junkie Location: Louisiana	i would vote if you had put in the option "oh come on.. everyone knows the best comercials are during the super bowl" only reason i watch them.. last few years best way to see star wars trailers. __________________ It means only one thing, and everything: Cut. Once committed to fight, Cut. Everything else is secondary. Cut. That is your duty, your purpose, your hunger. There is no rule more important, no commitment that overrides that one. Cut. The lines are a portrayal of the dance. Cut from the void, not from bewilderment. Cut the enemy as quickly and directly as possible. Cut with certainty. Cut decisively, resoultely. Cut into his strength. Flow through the gaps in his guard. Cut him. Cut him down utterly. Don't allow him a breath. Crush him. Cut him without mercy to the depth of his spirit. It is the balance to life: death. It is the dance with death. It is the law a war wizard lives by, or he dies.

02-01-2005, 10:43 AM	#38 (permalink)
Grasshopper Green ...is a comical chap Location: Where morons reign supreme	I'm in the "I don't care and won't be watching Friends" category. We don't have cable and therefore, have no reception on our TV. I haven't watched TV in over four months, and I don't miss it one bit. Hubby and I will probably catch a movie that day, we usually do that on Sundays anyway.

02-01-2005, 01:36 PM	#39 (permalink)
Karby Psycho Location: somewhere	i don't care...and i sure as hell won't be watching "Friends"...or anything else for that matter...i need to study. a lot. __________________ ~my karma ran over my dogma.~

02-02-2005, 02:30 AM	#40 (permalink)
bad jane Insane	i don't give a rats ass about super bowl personally. i'm not, nor have i ever been, a football fan. growing up however, my parents always watched and they always had a party. so it became a tradition of sorts to celebrate. my current bf is a huge football fan--he watches the games and then wants to watch espn recap the same game he just watched, for hours. he particularly enjoys going to a sports bar so he can watch 4 different games being played at once (which is amazing to me--he can't hear a word i say if he's watching only one game, but he can pay attention to 4 games on different sets at the same time?). why do i care? i don't. why will i go to the party? because my bf wants me there. the only joy i get is booze and commercials. please, don't begrudge me those two simple pleasures as i sit through a couple of hours of torture in the name of love. and no, i wouldn't get upset if someone told me to shut up mid-game. however, i know for a fact that anyone who's watching the game can't really hear me as they are incapable of understanding anything that doesn't pertain to the actual game (as evidenced all season long).