Sweetpea

coming your way teflonian!!

Thanks for donating!! I love you for it!!

Sweetpea

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Sweetpea

---------- big long passionate kiss to the lovely snowyowl!!



(that was fun, i'll do it again sometime)

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Sweetpea

Let's keep these donations coming people!! any little bit helps...

kisses from me still apply


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wonderwench

It's your fascist little thought police project with heavy handed moderation.

What you have done quite aptly demostrates the tragedy of the commons. You have something like 50,000 regs, and can't get enough monthly donations to foot the bill? Wow! That is about as stark as it gets.

SinisterMotives

Oh, for heaven's sake, WW. If you don't like the way a board is run, don't participate. You said it yourself when my threads kept getting deleted: it's their board, they can run it any way they want.

skier

I sometimes wonder if these sort of people ever "get it".

30,000 registered members are voluntarily subjecting themselves to this "fascist little thought police project with heavy handed moderation". What's more, many (including myself) are donating our hard earned money to support this site.

I have no doubts that halx will raise enough to ensure the continued survival of TFP- the problem was not that the members didn't want to donate, but instead that they didn't know there was a need.

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/me can't believe he just sent money to nyc and fearless leader is back in cali...

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wonderwench

99% are here for free pr0n.

Considering that pr0n is one of the most profitable businesses on the internet, it's rather pathetic that the board owner can't figure out how to create a $400 per month income stream from pr0n in order to cover the expense of the board.

minyn

Hal- will paypal you next friday. am currently $170 in debt to the world, but when that is cleared, ill do what i need to.

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skier

Could we at least try to not make up statistics?

Please, could you check out the threadcount and post count for the TB, compared to the rest of the board? As well, check out how many replying in the TB are also making quality posts in other areas of TFP. Yes there are those who just come for the free pornography in the erogenous zone but it is certainly not 99%. I don't even think it's a majority.

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Color me a donator.

Halx

So not only do I hate capitalism, I am also a fascist. Heh. You have issues. Major fuckin' issues.

The TFP is obviously not the place for you, McCarthy, but why are you still here?

You keep making statements that demonstrate how LITTLE you know about what goes on here at the TFP. You forget that life is all about PERESPECTIVE and your opinion is being formed from only a singular point of view. You forget that you may not have the correct angle. You forget a lot of things.

The TFP has about 50,000 member records in the database. Of those, I'm willing to bet that about 5000 of them are actually active. The reason for such a dramatic difference? Over 2 years of dead accounts from lurkers, banned users, unconfirmed accounts, and people who simply decided the TFP was not for them. I could prune the users, if I wanted to. It's always handy to keep it there though, so people like you can make your bogus accusations to show how little you actually know about the REAL process.

Once again, we're using our brains here. Calling the TFP fascist is about as dynamic a thought as calling your arab neighbor a terrorist. How could you possibly hope to know what goes on with the thought process of the staff? I need to remind you that life is all about perspective. Everyone approaches a situation differently, with different biases and different experiences.

I hate to put it so bluntly, but I'm really ticked off that some of you people feel the need to make this bullshit accusations. The bare truth is that you do not know shit about the things you are commenting on. You are trying to call other people on what you THINK they are about. You have never met them in your life. You have never had a person to person conversation with them either. Yet, you somehow feel comfortable calling them fascist? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?

God damn it, I cannot believe the ignorance under which some people operate. Yeah, I know I'm going a little over the edge here, and I probably have no chance of making you see eye to eye with me because I'm attacking YOU, but right now, I could give a shit about making friends with some jackass know-it-all on the internet. I'll spend every ounce of energy and will that I have in defense of the people who have given me their trust (the loyal users of the TFP, the staff of the TFP, the generous donors, and my real friends) and saying anything like what you've been belching out is an attack on the ideals of ALL of those people. I will not stand for it.

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pan6467

Actually since everyone has to meet a certain number of posts BEFORE they are open to the porn I guess, that blows your theory out of the water.

Plus if 99% are here for the free pr0n. that still leaves 3000 active that aren't.

Instead of being bitter, realize that Hal created and worked extremely hard to make this a wonderful place, that is pretty much censor-free, allows free thinkers to post on any topic they so desire and get feedback, a place where TRUE friends can be made and a place where one can learn on any subject because there is someone here that can help.

This is a diverse and beautiful creation and we owe Hal thanks for his vision, not to condemn him or bad mouth him anonymously while we take full advantage of HIS site.

I believe this creation can become so much more than just what it is and I for one am thankful that we have someone like a Hal that is willing to try. He surrounds himself with great people (the admins and mods), Artelevision, Analog, Maleficient, Tecoyah, UnclePhil, Sin, Lebell are just some of examples of the wonderous minds he has surrounded himself with.

This is not to brown nose because I DON"T HAVE TO. I can take advantage of this place and mind my business and not say a damned word and noone would think any less or more of me.

I choose to write this because in all honesty I love TFP and the diverse people here, and it is because of Hal and who he has chosen to surround himeslf with that makes this place what it is.

So once I get a physical addres some of my hard earned dollars will go to Hal to keep this haven, again, NOT because I have to or because I have ulterior motives, but solely because I believe in Hal and the people that make this place a home and family to those of us who choose to see it, believe in it and use it for what it is.

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wonderwench

Of course they can run it anyway they wish. I have an equal right to express what I find objectionable about the board which causes me to not want to support it financially.

They board owner can learn from or disregard it. It doesnt' matter to me one way or another. I rarely check in here.

Halx

Guys, I think wonderwench has proven that they know as much about the TFP as my dead grandmother.

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Lebell

Things are tight with the new kid and me still looking for a job, but another $25 on the way from sexymama and me.

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wonderwench

This pretty much says it all. You are rude and intolerant.

Enjoy your virtual pan-handling. Considering your financial problems, the freeloaders don't really think much more of you than I do. They are just using a free forum as long as others are willing to foot the bill.

Lebell

Perhaps if you had bothered becoming part of this community you would understand.

Instead you are one of those sad individuals that comes into someones house, spreads shit on the walls and calls it "free speech". Then you complain when the owner cleans it up.

Why don't you go somewhere else?

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pan6467

Actually with the headaches from people like you and the daily headaches we on the outside never see, I'm surprised and grateful to Hal, the Admins and Mods for staying and keeping this place going.

I can honestly say I probably wouldn't. I'd say fuck it and close it down.

I think it takes a strong and secure person to do what these people do and to ask for help, well sometimes people realize no matter how great ideas are, they can't do it alone.

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Halx

wonderwench, you're being a nuisance in my house. You know that all you're doing is fucking with me. You don't get to say anything about me when you're the one kicking up the dirt.

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Sweetpea

This thread is about donations right??

okay yeah ........ just checking

Back on track here . . . donations, donations, donations . . . keep them coming for those who can

And for those who say how much they hate TFP and the admins. Then WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE??? Go off and pick your fights somewhere else, your wasting everyone's time, so if you hate it here, just leave then already . . . geesh!

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hulk

$100AUD gone his way.

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Sweetpea

WOW!! Big kiss for you!!

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sashime76

I probably should have done it sooner/more often but I do have two little boys to feed plus mortgage. I can't contribute much but $10 has been sent. I'll go work an extra hour or two of O.T. next couple of weeks. I think this is a cool forum. People that don't want to be here are free to leave, who's holding them back? If you are going to linger around, let's all be nice and respectful.

Sweetpea

here here sashime!! well said.

And every bit helps and 10 dollars is another 10 dollars towards the goal

Thank you for your donation!!

let's keep them coming!!
Sweetpea

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doodlebird

/me reaches out to hold some hands/

ahhhh... now isn't that better?

thanks for bring us back down to earth, sweetpea.

as if hal doesn't have enough stress trying to keep this going, looking for work... he sure doesn't need us telling him how to enjoy his hobby. i can't blame him for getting overly upset.

i'm am notoriously bad at taking directions from anyone on almost anything, but i'm always happy to chip in $ whenever a pal needs a lift.

> !clink! in the collection plate <

it's all about love folks. let's keep it like that.

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Sweetpea

Indeed!!

Thank you for your donation!! doodle!! it is highly appreciated . .. because remember, we're not just giving to Halx . . . we're giving you ourselves . . . TFP is the National Public Radio of the forum world . . . we support what we love . . . our community is living proof that people can work together and respect each other!!

Keep those donations coming!!

Sweetpea

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apeman

i'm trying ... can't i just send you an envelope full of cash? otherwise i'll have to go and get myself a credit card... and then i'll be tempted to buy lots and lots of useless but fun items

or i could do you a check in NZ dollars .. i'll pm you and see what happens

(the best thing to do with hypercapitalists is to pay someone to break their legs - no way to argue with that is there? market forces see? )


anyway can i have kiss on credit please?

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wisj2

Asking a MOD what they think is an appropriate donation to keep this ship from sinking?

I like it here, don't post a lot, but do get a lot of pleasure reading what people post.

maleficent

Whatever you think is appropriate, based on what you can afford and what you get out of TFP.

Every little bit does help out...

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The previous question was for all MOD's.

Sweetpea

part of a kiss on credit!

Sweetpea

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Sweetpea

Halx said in post # 119 of this thread:
but as Mal noted above, every little bit helps.

Sweetpea

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spectre

As mal said, whatever you feel is appropriate. If you can kick in $5 - $10, that would be great. If you can send more, we certainly wouldn't complain. Just send what you're comfortable sending, that's plenty. If everyone just chipped in a little bit, Hal wouldn't have to worry.

And sweetpea, get a smooch ready, because I'm sending out some cash this week.

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biznatch

wonderwench..if you call the TFP "fascist"... and start your experience here by talking a load of crap about people trying to do good, and criticizing their attempts to keep this great community running... then don't be surprised when our little regime (i assume thats what you'll call it) gangs up on you.
You just got here, the 1st things you say are negative. You invite yourself in the TFP and talk shit about the guys running it. How do you expect your opinions to be valued???
TFP is evolution, and you're all the way at the bottom. You probably haven't even had a good look at the greatness of communication and exchange of ideas and ways of thought here.
If you're gonna post the same kind of indirect "just sayin" crap, then you've missed the purpose of this system. stay at the bottom.
Halx, please don't ban him yet. I'd like to see how stupid and senseless his comments get.

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snowy

Obviously the person attacking Hal and TFP knows little about both. That has been established thoroughly, and all I wonder is if perhaps said person IS here for the TB?

Personally, that's not what I came for and that's not why I came back after a year and a half away. It's also not why I stay.

I come for the people. I come for the open affection I get from many other TFPers, for the opinions, for the advice. I come for the "ladies in arms" feeling I get from the LL, the opportunity to offer my expertise in Sexuality. But really, I stay because of the people--because of Halx, sweetpea, Charlatan, Gilda, kramus, Shanifaye, K-Wise, tecoyah, abaya, amonkie, Lebell, sexymama, ngdawg, ratbastid, lurkette, TOK, Squishor, Sage...I could go on and on and on with my list as to why I come here (and if I missed you I sincerely apologize).

And THAT is why I donated.

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BuDDaH

Dear wonderwench,
you come into a person's place on the internet, your sense or democracy and freedom
doesn't apply when there are rules and ideals that you should follow. You will never subject Hal to the extent where you ridicule OUR and the TFP's ideals for what or how things are done. NOT ON MY WATCH. Never more.
I have two words for you and your stupidity or ignorance to get the message of what we stand behind here at the TFP.
BYE BYE.

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Supple Cow

Word, BuDDaH. That wench was asking for it.

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Frosstbyte

What he said.

I donated as soon as I saw the announcement, but just found this thread.