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View Poll Results: What do you believe?
God created us and everything as is less than 10,000 years ago (creationism) 9 5.26%
God created us, and using natural selection and mutation, guided our evolution (theistic evolution) 17 9.94%
God created life and let it pretty much do it's thing (Deistic evolution) 22 12.87%
No god(s) was/were involved whatsoever. We evolved. (Darwinian or neodarwinian evolution) 84 49.12%
Other 10 5.85%
I simply don't know 29 16.96%
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Old 01-31-2005, 04:07 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I must also request that this thread stop talking about the universe,

Evolution and the "Big Bang" are not related in any way apart from the fact that both are scientific theories. But to silence the people that talk about how the natural laws keep being broken. these laws were designed by man to help understand things, people like to categorise. Take for example Newtonial Physics, It has long been known to be incorrect but is still used as it is reasonably accurate until the object is moving faster than 300kph. Then General Reletivity is better, but even that is still not perfect. The "Natural Laws" are still being worked out so just because something defies them doesnt mean they are rubbish, it just means they have to be corrected.

Evolution, at least in essence has been proven many times, therefore it is fact that evolution exists, whether humanity was formed through evolution is the theory part.

to answer someones question about why there are still monkeys. Imagine this scenario. Millions of years ago, creatures exist that can live equally well in trees or on the land. They are a peacefull species and everyone has a great time. One day however a new baby is born that for some reason, maybe his classmates mocked him, he liked to hide in the trees. He spent most of his life in the trees. Eventually he met a girl and convinced her to live in the trees as well, they had kids that lived in the trees, who had kids that lived in the trees etc.

After a while this family that lives in the trees develops skills and abilities that are better suited to living in the trees, from experience and practice. now this family is more efficient at collecting food from the trees than their more versatile cousins. Also they forget how to collect food from the ground, so they become protective of the tree food, as its all they have. Thus the original animal is denied access to the trees and needs to rely more on ground food sources. they then develop better skills to gather this food because the loss of tree food means they need to gather more ground food than they used to.

eventually you are left with two different species, they will still look similar, in some ways act similar but will be different in ways that aid their particular environment.

Now I doubt this is what actually happened, but I hope this helps in some peoples understanding of the basic process of evolution.
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Old 02-01-2005, 01:23 AM   #82 (permalink)
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CSflim: thanks for that site, has some really good info on it.
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Old 02-01-2005, 02:22 AM   #83 (permalink)
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I must also request that this thread stop talking about the universe,
The original poster brought it into the discussion with the first selection on the original poll. Alternatives to this creation of everything are, well, different ways everything got here.

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