Even if I wasn't committed with my wife, I would be scared I'd get busted and end up on tv or something..

{Theme song starts in the background}
Bad boys bad boys
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you ....

Anyway, I just watched Cops HoHoHo's, much to my wife's protest and this is exactly the kind of thing on there. Very funny stuff.

Dude, you got scammed.

The average price for a street bj is $20. Sex is $40-$50. You shouldn't have to get yourself hard. She should take care of you from the start, and she puts the condom on (usually with her mouth).

She shouldn't be able to insult you since her mouth should be full as soon as you park the car.

Also, never negotiate before she gets in the car. Have her get in the car and then talk. Ask her to show you something a cop wouldn't show you. If she opens her shirt there is a good chance she's not a cop. If she refuses to get in the car, or won't play the game before you say what you want then it's a cop. Pretend you were just going to give her a ride and drop her off ASAP.

Nikki, while I wouldn't necessarily use the word "flame", I think what Nowthen was getting at is that, for one, this story wasn't posted to discuss morality, ethics, the divorce rate, etc. It was a story, and I agree that there is a certain section of users that are in the pre-college grad. world, where it is much easier to apply a bright line test to relationships and the way in which we as humans react with one another. If this had been posted in sexuality to discuss the implications of his actions, then fine, he opened himself up for it. But he didn't, he chose this forum, and for that reason, I would consider it a flame when someone start calling him out on his actions in such a way.

Christ, what is the easiest way to start a flame war in here? Mention cheating. Dear god so much time and effort has been spent on that subject it is unbelieveable. Invariably, the ones who adopt the ethos "once a cheater always a cheater" usually have as their most vocal supporters those of us in here who still haven't stepped out of college yet and been hammered by the real world.

Anyway, sorry for the rant, but pulling out the "cheating card" pissed me off.

the irony of that statement when compared to your signature is rich...thanks for the laughs!! :)

for the record, I personally would never go to a prostitute. I prefer my parts to be disease free, besides if you're in a relationship that means anything then in my eyes it's wrong. But I won't enforce my moral code on someone else, ever. Everyone makes choices, as long as it doesn't affect me, have fun, do what you want.

I can relate to Squigly.

Once when between girlfriends, I tried out a "massage parlour". Here in Canada, prostitution is legal, but street solicitation and running a brothel is not. Massage parlour are illegal, but tolerated. Escorts (call girls) are legal. The cops make a show of busting massage parlours once in awhile and they get fined. It's part of the business.

At least, in a massage parlour, you are comfortable. You have your shower. The girl comes and rubs you a little and gets naked, etc. The prices are more than $100 because you pay for the use of the room and then pay the girl for her services seperately.

It's much better. No pimps, no cops! It can be as erotic as the better girls can make it.

Of course, if you haven't had sex for awhile, you may not get it up, or you may cum too fast. This is normal and at least the girl tried her best and you got to feel her up.

It's more satisfying than spending $500 at the stripbar!

Wow, man that is an interesting story. I never would have put myself in that situation. There was too much stuf that could've gone wrong. You might be lucky that you had stage fright. Diseases are scary these days.

If people don't know the difference between flaming and expressing one's opinions, they shouldn't be posting. My .02

Now, on to paying for sex. Thanks for sharing your story. I do agree that if you are in a happily committed relationship, then socially experimenting by paying for prostitution is counterproductive to that happy relationship. If it works for you, great! I still think it is pretty nasty. As some have said, you got what was coming to you. Couldn't get it up, small dick comment, $100 wasted, etc......

Out of curiosity, does your partner know? Is this something you discussed with her?

Also, why couldn't you just role play? Have your partner dress up like a whore and fuck your brains out. You can even pay her.

My signature is something my mom said, and something I was high offended by. It's weird to compare guys to ice cream.

thanks man. thats pretty much exactly what i was getting, just i hadnt quite decided how to respond to nikki jumping in on the defence. a far as i can see, this thread was never about cheating. and i sincerely hope la petite moi can maintain her high moral standpoint, i really do... its just... give it another 10 years of the general shit and temptation that life throws at you, and it might be a different story.

*shrugs* what do i know though.

So are you saying that cheating is OK? Is it cool if somebody you love cheats on you? I don't understand.

Anytime you start a discussion it can take many different directions.

There is no way to determine which way a conversation will go.

I know a flame when I see one and what she said was not even close. I hope that people realize when they bring up sensitive topics such as this one, they are open themselves up to many different viewpoints.

Provided that he supplied us with the information that he was indeed in a commited relationship, certainly DOES make this thread about cheating.

I know, but it does stand a bit in contrast with what you said, kind of made me chuckle, that's all.

how do you manage to have such a black and white, right and wrong life? mine always seems to be shades of grey.

I wouldn't say that my life is black and white. I just try to treat other people in the same manner that I would like to be treated. I sure as hell know that I would not like my significant other to have sex with somebody behind my back, money exchanged or not.

You seem to want forgiveness, but how quick are you to offer forgiveness?

Yeah, my mom and I contrast a lot. She's bizarre.

Okay, just because I'm 18 doesn't make me an idiot. I have seen what people can do to each other when they have affaires/liasons/ etc. WHAT ARE THE PROS OF IT? If you're in a committed relationship, that means you COMMIT yourself to someone. That means you don't go off and say "Well since I'm tempted..." and then pay 100$ for a slut off the street.

I have been in a relationship for a year and 7 months- yeah yeah, not ten years. I have just gotten engaged, and I do not see myself EVER saying I would be tempted to cheat on my husband-to-be. I am in a committed relationship.

From the very beginning, this thread was about cheating- he talks about how he's in a committed relationship, and yet, he feels the temptation to go out and get some over-priced 'lady of the night' because he wants to experience it. When you have someone at home that is better than some whore, isn't that pretty offending to your loved one that you'd want sex with another person? I'm sure I'd be pretty damn offended.

Captain Nemo, this is posted in a forum. A FORUM. Forums are used to debate things, talk about them. What else did he want us to post when he wrote a thread in a forum where there are hundreds of people with different views on things?

I'm not flaming anyone- I am simply stating my point of view. Now that I've been attacked and told that because I'm young I don't know what I'm talking about (Captain Nemo), I'm mad.

Man, I thought what I said was pretty bad, but I don't even get accused once of flaming! I'm dissapointed...

You know what I heard? Squigly can't have an orgasm unless he kills a dog!

PS. Kudos if you get the reference...

"Captain Nemo, this is posted in a forum. A FORUM. Forums are used to debate things, talk about them. What else did he want us to post when he wrote a thread in a forum where there are hundreds of people with different views on things?"

la petite moi, thank you for explaining the concept of a forum. I agree that this is about discussion, my only point here was that the discussion shifted to cheating and that wasn't the point of the original post. Once "cheating" hit the radar screen, then off we go on a diatribe about how his significant other feels in this situation.

I applaud you on your views and the morality you display (really, I'm not being sarcastic) and I wish you well on your engagement. I just hate seeing people start calling out people on side issues that had nothing to do with the post in the first place.

I have been out in this world for over 40 years, and the theoretical black and white issue of morality is awfully gray, at least in my part of the world.

And cheating comes in many forms and flavors, alot of which have nothing to do with sex and people outside of the marriage. Personal example; I got married the first time when I was 21 and still in college (big mistake, at least for me). One of the fundamental basics in our commitment to each other was that I was going to immediately role out of my undergrad. program and attend graduate school in Tampa (1 of a handful of schools offering the degree I wanted). My fiance knew this, and agreed with it. Well, 6 months after getting married she informed me that not only could she not move to Florida, but she wanted to move closer back to her home town to be closer to her mother. Did she cheat on me?

I would say yes, she broke a fundamental ground rule that we agreed upon before getting married. Did I carry resentment because of it? Yep, I sure did. Now, she never cheated on me by having a relationship outside of the marriage, but her views tended to be the ones that were acted upon. Should I have dissolved the union earlier? Hell yes, but then kids came along and further complicated matters.

My only point to all of this rambling, is that cheating has many flavors, and I personally felt that the thread skewed off the purpose of the poster's original intent, which was to tell us a story, not to ask if what he did was morally wrong.

Oh, and one other thing, I am not going to tell you that you are to young to get married, but let me offer you a small piece of advice. Talk through the major life events that you will experience with you fiance. For example, right now, having kids is probably the farthest thing on your mind. But make sure that the two of you are in complete agreement with what you expect in the future. Kids can complicate things tremendously. Think baptism. If you two are of different faiths, this can complicate things in the future. Even if you are not active church attendees currently, once those kids are there, religion will rear its' head.

Anyway, off to battle corporate fires