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Scorps · 12-09-2004, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegrody

This is tragic news indeed for everyone involved. Being a Pantera fan, I've read a lot about Dimebag from people he knew and he sounds like he was a very cool person. His music has made huge impact in the Metal arena and he will definitely be missed.

We live in a sick sad world.

R.I.P.

If you like Dimebag so much he is ont he Drowning Pool DVD, him and Dave hanging out.

Its called Drowing Pool - Sinema

-Ever- · 12-09-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by timalkin

Dimebag contributed so much to the betterment of society! We should all mourn his death. Wait a minute...his name was "Dimebag."

Nevermind.

Reported to mods.

troit · 12-09-2004, 03:53 PM

Curious to know that the motive was...

analog · 12-09-2004, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

that is just such a sad commentary on our society... that no one would think it's not normal for a person to run on stage with a gun?

I've never heard of the guy who was killed or the band - -but would that really be part of the act?

Why not? Almost all acts are in some way about surprises, shocking revelations... think of even the tamest soap opera... the sudden deaths, the car accidents, comas, pregnancies... sudden plot twists drive consumer interest. Considering this was rock and roll, and not a knitting convention, I think a display of violence would be somewhat in tune with the subject matter.

Also keep in mind that there are stupid people in the world, and they LOVE being interviewed.

ARTelevision · 12-09-2004, 04:37 PM

...an inspired artist, grew up in his dad's studio, music was his life.
an ugly crime.

timalkin · 12-09-2004, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ever-

Reported to mods.

Why exactly was that post reported to the mods? The title of this thread is "Dimebag Darrell got killed on stage! WTF!!!" Is this a thread of mourning? You wouldn't know it by the title of the post.

I always hate to hear about somebody getting killed for no good reason, but I can't spare any of my limited sympathy on a guy who purposely chose the name "Dimebag." Why do people place such importance on drugged up musicians and actors?

spectre · 12-09-2004, 05:16 PM

First of all, everyone take a step back and calm down. I don't want to see this thread get out of control. That includes baiting and overreacting to honest opinions.

That said, this was a tragedy for all who died and their families.

silent_jay · 12-09-2004, 05:52 PM

Spectre good call an the calming of emotions, I just read the whole thread and most of it sounds like flame bait. But I must answer the questions from tyhe post before yours.

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Why exactly was that post reported to the mods? The title of this thread is "Dimebag Darrell got killed on stage! WTF!!!" Is this a thread of mourning? You wouldn't know it by the title of the post.

If you read the posts that came before yours you would have known that this was a thread for fans who are mourning, a man got killed, people got killed, what else would it be other than a thread of mourning? If you tell what a thread is about by the title and don't read the posts that came before it then you really have no clue what the thread is about. Just my opinion

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I always hate to hear about somebody getting killed for no good reason, but I can't spare any of my limited sympathy on a guy who purposely chose the name "Dimebag." Why do people place such importance on drugged up musicians and actors?

If you can't spare any of your "limited sympathy" then move on and don't respond to the thread, you don't have to respond just because you read it, it's that simple. I believe his name was Darrell not Dimebag, Dimebag was a stage name or a show name if you will. Do you know he wasd a drugged up musician? Or are you just assuming this because of his stage name?

Some posts on this thread are a prime example of what TFP is not, it disgusting that people would take this opportunity to make snide comments about dead people and fans of Darrell.

My sympathy go out to all those affected by this situation

RIP

rfra3645 · 12-09-2004, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kostya

Are you drunk?

why do i gotta be drunk??

no it was first thing in the mornig.....

but why are you asking me??
o u may be a spelling natzi

rfra3645 · 12-09-2004, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by timalkin

Why exactly was that post reported to the mods? The title of this thread is "Dimebag Darrell got killed on stage! WTF!!!" Is this a thread of mourning? You wouldn't know it by the title of the post.

I always hate to hear about somebody getting killed for no good reason, but I can't spare any of my limited sympathy on a guy who purposely chose the name "Dimebag." Why do people place such importance on drugged up musicians and actors?

true this thread is not called mourning for darrel.. but by reading 96% of the posts you can see this is a place tfpers have come to mourn him....

good report...

-Ever- · 12-09-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by timalkin

Why exactly was that post reported to the mods? The title of this thread is "Dimebag Darrell got killed on stage! WTF!!!" Is this a thread of mourning? You wouldn't know it by the title of the post.

I always hate to hear about somebody getting killed for no good reason, but I can't spare any of my limited sympathy on a guy who purposely chose the name "Dimebag." Why do people place such importance on drugged up musicians and actors?

Someone died and you're selfish enough to make a rude comment. Everyone has opinions, not just you, and it doesn't take a genius to realize this thread isn't the place to go offending the recently deceased.

Now, to get back on topic in the light of the tragedy....

I never really knew much of the guy, but I definitely know he had a large following. I remember a kid in a music class I recently took did a final report on Pantera, and more specifically Darrel. He was a really nice guy and was such a loyal fan for really pure reasons. Beyond Darrel, I'll pray for this kid and the other many fans as well cause I'm sure there's many saddened by this.

timalkin · 12-09-2004, 06:09 PM

In order to avoid "offending" anybody else and unnecessarily dragging this thread further off topic, I will not respond.

filtherton · 12-09-2004, 06:55 PM

Why could it not have been danzig? That's all i want to know.

Bacchanal · 12-09-2004, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by filtherton

Why could it not have been danzig? That's all i want to know.

It shouldn't have been Danzig or anyone else. It shouldn't have happened at all.

I really dont have much to say about this, or to be more honest, I honestly dont know what to say. I've been listening to Pantera since I was like 13, and I really dug Damageplan too. This is just terrible. While reading as much as I could about it, I found that Blabbermouth has posted a bunch of other musician's opinions about this. If you're interested click here.

-Ever- · 12-09-2004, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by filtherton

Why could it not have been danzig? That's all i want to know.

.....

TopRamen66 · 12-09-2004, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by timalkin

Why exactly was that post reported to the mods? The title of this thread is "Dimebag Darrell got killed on stage! WTF!!!" Is this a thread of mourning? You wouldn't know it by the title of the post.

Yes, I was very angry when I first created this post. Guess what though, ANGER is the first stage of mourning! If I remember right, the usual process goes Denial or Anger, Helplessness, Depression, and finally Acceptance.

Ustwo · 12-09-2004, 11:24 PM

I don't understand how people get so emotional and attached to musicians they never met and don't really know. I suppose this goes for all celebrities, but it seems almost cult like with musicians.

whocarz · 12-10-2004, 01:54 AM

I would personally mourn the bouncer more than I would Dimebag. He could have run away and lived, but instead, he charged the gunman and tried to stop his rampage, and gave his life trying. That man is a true hero.

bollocks · 12-10-2004, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by whocarz

I would personally mourn the bouncer more than I would Dimebag. He could have run away and lived, but instead, he charged the gunman and tried to stop his rampage, and gave his life trying. That man is a true hero.

amen brother

Fearless_Hyena · 12-10-2004, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

I don't understand how people get so emotional and attached to musicians they never met and don't really know. I suppose this goes for all celebrities, but it seems almost cult like with musicians.

Musical influence has a lot to do with it. I didn't know him personally, but I loved Pantera and the music he made. The celebrity factor means very little in comparison.

bigoldalphamale · 12-10-2004, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fearless_Hyena

Musical influence has a lot to do with it. I didn't know him personally, but I loved Pantera and the music he made. The celebrity factor means very little in comparison.

word!

tecoyah · 12-10-2004, 08:08 AM

Glad to see we managed to get back on track....and act like adults.

It is always sad to see ANYONE killed, and particularly so, when such senseless violence is the cause.

kutulu · 12-10-2004, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by troit

Curious to know that the motive was...

Disgruntled fan pissed off that Pantera broke up.

redlotuss9 · 12-10-2004, 09:17 AM

I've been listening to Pantera since Vulgar Display of Power came out in '92. The first concert I ever went to was Pantera, Sepultura and Prong in Spokane, WA in the summer of 1994. Since that day, I joined one of the biggest, most loyal fan bases in music. There's a reason why a band that got zero recognition and zero airplay was able to crate as big a following as they did. Their music helped me through some really tough times and communicated a very positive message. A message of inner strength, individuality, letting go of past pain, not caring what others think of you, and the concept of being UNSCARRED. Listening to their music has helped shape who I have become today and I am a better person today for having listened to Pantera's music. Losing Darrell is a tremendous blow to a huge amount of people. People who don't know their music aren't going to get it. I'm trying to explain why losing Darrell is as big a deal as it is but I don't know if it will ever come across to people who's lives have never been touched by his music.

He was a guitar genius. To my fellow Pantera fans, I am with you in spirit. In Darrell's memory, join me and smile with a Black Toothed Grin.

TopRamen66 · 12-10-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by redlotuss9

I'm trying to explain why losing Darrell is as big a deal as it is but I don't know if it will ever come across to people who's lives have never been touched by his music.

He was a guitar genius. To my fellow Pantera fans, I am with you in spirit. In Darrell's memory, join me and smile with a Black Toothed Grin.

gdr2004 · 12-10-2004, 09:07 PM

Definately sent a shock through my system. I guess I just realized how vulnerable human beings can be. Perceptions are so far from reality sometimes. I thought of Dimebag as an indestructable metal god.

Definately a sad day for metal. However, his death is not a cause of grievance. Nothing can stop us from enjoying his music. Dimebag may be at a better place now, but his music lives on right here. Here on earth.

Scorps · 12-11-2004, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by whocarz

I would personally mourn the bouncer more than I would Dimebag. He could have run away and lived, but instead, he charged the gunman and tried to stop his rampage, and gave his life trying. That man is a true hero.

He wa the head of secuirty for the band...but bouncer is about right!

Bacchanal · 12-11-2004, 05:42 PM

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A Message From Phil (as relayed by a friend)

I don't have a big official statement. I do have a lot of inside knowledge on the Pantera feud from Philip's side and tonight he gave me the green light to let everyone else in on what I know. He trusts me to do this, and I take 100% responsibility for anything that is inaccurate, but I'm confident you all know I'm not going to touch on this subject unless it's from the heart. He didn't even give me any specifics except for the final part of this post... he just wants me to tell people what I know to be true.

Philip loved Darrell like a brother, always. They accomplished things together that most wouldn't even dare to dream. None of us can know what it's like to be riding such a big machine, it changes the face of music and brings joy millions of people's lives around the globe. The rewards are big, but the stress is unimaginable if things don't go perfectly. Yes Pantera broke up and there was a lot of shit talking through the media. There are two people on this board (WOLVIE and NGJ) who would periodically ask me about what's going to happen with Pantera in the future. I told them each time that I don't know when, but I'm 100% sure that we will see Pantera together again. I told them that when Pantera does get back together, you will know somebody who never lost faith, not for a second. Why did I tell them this? Because I know Philip loves those guys and when he was ready, he would reach out to them and try to make it work again. I had the feeling that one morning (afternoon maybe), all the CFH boys would just roll out of the rack and say "let's go!".

Of all the time I've spent with Rex and Philip, I never badgered them about Pantera, but the subject did come up every once in a while. As for Rex, he would refer to the state of things simply as "silly nonsense". All I ever got out of Philip was something like "nyaaaa... I just don't feel like sitting down and writing Pantera riffs right now."... and that's it! No crazy accusations, name calling, or carrying on. As a matter of fact, in the middle of all the heat, Philip described Vinnie as "the perfect drummer" and that Vinnie could drum more perfect than a drum machine if he so chose. What he said of Dime, he also repeated tonight. "The best of the best".

It's sad that the media would irritate the situation so much. Countless times, Kate and I would listen in on Phil doing interviews. Always, always, always, the jackals wanted Pantera dirt. Sometimes Philip would give it to them, sometimes he would not. However every single time I was there, he expressed his love for, and wished luck to Vinnie and Dime but that was somehow left out of the final print more times than not. I was at Philip's house a few weeks ago and I informed him that I handle the Official Pantera site now, and he asked me if I talked to Dime. I said "No, when was the last time YOU talked to him?" with a sigh, he said "three years". Not a "fuckin right 3 years" not a "yeah three years and it's gonna be three more"... but the dude was genuinely disappointed about the situation. I could tell... the time to patch things up was drawing near.

There's more I want to share, but it's almost 5AM right now, and I just managed to hold myself together long enough to get that out.

Philip isn't hiding out or waiting for the right moment to speak, he's in Texas right now searching for answers to this tragedy the best he can. There was one thing he asked of me, that I humbly bring to you all:

Darrell my brother. The best of the best.
-Philip H Anselmo

From here

Seriously, the first time I saw that pic... ouch.

Blackthorn · 12-12-2004, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights

That's because we're old, mal. I never heard of Dimebag Darrell, either. Although I have heard of Pantera, I'm not all that familiar with them. I do agree with the "sad commentary on our society" part. I'd better just stick with my Jazz and Big Band.

Likewise I had never heard of "Dimebag" but I have heard of Pantera. This is a tragic and senseless crime comitted by obviously a very unstable and now very dead man.

ICER · 12-12-2004, 04:21 PM

My heart goes out to any victim of this sort. I never was much into hard rock. And never heard the name "Dimebag Darrell". But the passing of any artist (or anyone else for that matter) is a sad loss.

R.I.P

But I feel a special loss for the bouncer. I was in security for many years. It takes true courage not to run in that kind situation. But stay and do your duty, a duty that rarely pays more then $10 and hour.

neekap · 12-12-2004, 05:24 PM

Being a Columbusite, I got to listen to this on the local AM talk radio station the following afternoon. I'm not a big metal fan, but I'm glad to see that unlike on the talk radio, nobody has made the tasteless "This is the 9/11 of the metal world" comment. Tragic? yes. But not to the tune of 3000+ deaths tragic.

SirSeymour · 12-15-2004, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by whocarz

I would personally mourn the bouncer more than I would Dimebag. He could have run away and lived, but instead, he charged the gunman and tried to stop his rampage, and gave his life trying. That man is a true hero.

Yes, he was a hero. His name was Jeff Thompson, aka Mayhem, and he was a personal friend of mine. I know of few more selfless people in this world. He truly enjoyed helping others and was more likely to do work in return for dinner then for money. He used to tell the guys he worked security for "I'll take a bullet for you fellas". In the end, he did. The world is little bit worse off for his passing.

Thanks to all of you who have considered him here.

12-09-2004, 03:53 PM	#43 (permalink)
troit Transfer Agent Location: NYC	Curious to know that the motive was... __________________ I've yet to dephile myself...

12-09-2004, 04:37 PM	#45 (permalink)
ARTelevision I change Location: USA	...an inspired artist, grew up in his dad's studio, music was his life. an ugly crime. __________________ create evolution

12-09-2004, 05:16 PM	#47 (permalink)
spectre Junkie	First of all, everyone take a step back and calm down. I don't want to see this thread get out of control. That includes baiting and overreacting to honest opinions. That said, this was a tragedy for all who died and their families. __________________ "Fuck these chains No goddamn slave I will be different" ~ Machine Head

12-09-2004, 06:09 PM	#52 (permalink)
timalkin Addict Location: watching from the treeline	In order to avoid "offending" anybody else and unnecessarily dragging this thread further off topic, I will not respond. __________________ Trinity: "What do you need?" Neo: "Guns. Lots of guns." -The Matrix

12-09-2004, 11:24 PM	#57 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	I don't understand how people get so emotional and attached to musicians they never met and don't really know. I suppose this goes for all celebrities, but it seems almost cult like with musicians. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

12-09-2004, 06:55 PM	#53 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	Why could it not have been danzig? That's all i want to know.

12-10-2004, 01:54 AM	#58 (permalink)
whocarz Jarhead Location: Colorado	I would personally mourn the bouncer more than I would Dimebag. He could have run away and lived, but instead, he charged the gunman and tried to stop his rampage, and gave his life trying. That man is a true hero. __________________ If there exists anything mightier than destiny, then it is the courage to face destiny unflinchingly. -Geibel Despise not death, but welcome it, for nature wills it like all else. -Marcus Aurelius Come on, you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever? -GySgt. Daniel J. "Dan" Daly

12-10-2004, 08:08 AM	#62 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	Glad to see we managed to get back on track....and act like adults. It is always sad to see ANYONE killed, and particularly so, when such senseless violence is the cause. __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

12-10-2004, 09:17 AM	#64 (permalink)
redlotuss9 Tilted Location: Pennsylvania	I've been listening to Pantera since Vulgar Display of Power came out in '92. The first concert I ever went to was Pantera, Sepultura and Prong in Spokane, WA in the summer of 1994. Since that day, I joined one of the biggest, most loyal fan bases in music. There's a reason why a band that got zero recognition and zero airplay was able to crate as big a following as they did. Their music helped me through some really tough times and communicated a very positive message. A message of inner strength, individuality, letting go of past pain, not caring what others think of you, and the concept of being UNSCARRED. Listening to their music has helped shape who I have become today and I am a better person today for having listened to Pantera's music. Losing Darrell is a tremendous blow to a huge amount of people. People who don't know their music aren't going to get it. I'm trying to explain why losing Darrell is as big a deal as it is but I don't know if it will ever come across to people who's lives have never been touched by his music. He was a guitar genius. To my fellow Pantera fans, I am with you in spirit. In Darrell's memory, join me and smile with a Black Toothed Grin.

12-10-2004, 09:07 PM	#66 (permalink)
gdr2004 Crazy Location: CA	Definately sent a shock through my system. I guess I just realized how vulnerable human beings can be. Perceptions are so far from reality sometimes. I thought of Dimebag as an indestructable metal god. Definately a sad day for metal. However, his death is not a cause of grievance. Nothing can stop us from enjoying his music. Dimebag may be at a better place now, but his music lives on right here. Here on earth.

12-12-2004, 04:21 PM	#70 (permalink)
ICER Chilled to Perfection Location: Dallas, TX	My heart goes out to any victim of this sort. I never was much into hard rock. And never heard the name "Dimebag Darrell". But the passing of any artist (or anyone else for that matter) is a sad loss. R.I.P But I feel a special loss for the bouncer. I was in security for many years. It takes true courage not to run in that kind situation. But stay and do your duty, a duty that rarely pays more then $10 and hour. __________________ What's the difference between congress and a penitentiary? One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers and threats to society. The other is for housing prisoners. ~~David Letterman

12-12-2004, 05:24 PM	#71 (permalink)
neekap Tilted Location: Central OH	Being a Columbusite, I got to listen to this on the local AM talk radio station the following afternoon. I'm not a big metal fan, but I'm glad to see that unlike on the talk radio, nobody has made the tasteless "This is the 9/11 of the metal world" comment. Tragic? yes. But not to the tune of 3000+ deaths tragic.