Violent Video Games Destroy Children's Minds and are Irresponsibly Sold to Them, ergo - Page 2 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Vincentt · 05-23-2003, 01:48 PM

TV and movies rot your brain!
Those new age books are rotting your brain!
Don’t listen to that rebel’s speech; it will rot your brain!

YOUR BRAIN IS ROTTING!

The only way to raise children is how the person telling you how to raise children was raised.

charlesesl · 05-24-2003, 06:13 PM

How ironic that in American, the great land of freedom, even video games are resiticts.
Serously though, i think this whole thing is a blame game.
When some dumpass smoke to death, he can sue the tobbaco company for giving him cancer. When two confused kids shoots 20 kids dead in a high school, the whole thing is blamed on video games.

I am not saying that violent video games never increase the probobility of kid become more violent. But video games are not the ones to blame. Instead, i think school shootings are more caused be the lack of moral educations by the public education and by the parents. I have immegrated to canada 6 years ago and have attended elementary school and high school. I was surprised by the fact that there is not course that tell kids what is right from what is wrong. I dont know much about amerca, but i assume that it is much the same. The same goes to parents, parents in western society gives their kids to much freedom., and not enough guidance.

I find it funny that these kids are not taught what is right, only avoided what is wrong

Miekle · 05-24-2003, 06:22 PM

I believe the only impact it has on the child dues to the way they are treated by thier parents.

A child that is sheltered by thier parents would probably be inflused buy a game like grand theft auto and thats not even the worst out there.

On the other hand a child that isn't sheltered so much won't even think of it as much. He obviously knows its bad to go out and kill people but he isn't likely to go do it just because he finds it fun on a video game.

The expample I have would be my brother and my girlfriends brother who is the same age as my brother. His parents would never let him play GTA and he thinks its a horribly bad "adult" game. Meanwhile my brother plays it and doesn't really think its all that bad, he knows its just a game.

I used grand theft auto as an example cause that is the most widely known vid game where you can pick up hookers and later kill em off and take your cash back. It is by far not the worst out there. But either way I think the whole violence and reality controversy on video games is and should be handled by thier parents.

cdwonderful · 05-24-2003, 06:52 PM

ergo, the cloning of new minds will be a booming business...

ARTelevision · 05-25-2003, 08:09 AM

OK.
There are a lot of posts of this sort, "this stuff won't cause a normal person whose parents were paragons of parenting to kill," etc.

That's not the point. Neither is the point something like, "I use this stuff and it doesn't destroy my mind."

That's great if your are superhuman and can resist the thing I'm trying to pin down. But what you're not addressing is the degree to which sociopathological messages have an influence on us all.

The last several entries in my journal are an attempt to sketch out the situation as I see it generally operating in all our lives.

The discussion of this is great - don't get me wrong. It would be even greater if we could get past polarized positions to a common ground in which we could discuss the effects of popular culture on us all. Maybe it's time for a new thread.

komodo · 05-25-2003, 03:33 PM

1. I really don't think that video games like GTA3 "destroy kids' minds". The Charleston didn't, rock music didn't, comics didn't, MTV didn't, and I think that it's just a kneejerk reaction to believe that the newest, most rebellious, and violentest form of entertainment for kids is going to rot their brains.

2. That said, if you BELIEVE that videogames screw kids up/turn em into mass murderers, than a law like this makes perfect sense.

3. Except that any kid who has a desire to play GTA3 is going to find it very easy to get a copy illegally. Just like kids danced the Charleston without permission, listened to rock music on headphones, borrowed "Violent Gorefest COMIX" from their friends, and watched MTV at someone else's house... if a kid wants to do something, they'll find a way to do it.

4. Mind control seems like the obvious solution.

5. Kids have always been, and will always be, stupid punks. They became bratty, shortsighted dumbasses around age 13 and leave that phase in anywhere from 1 to 50 years.

6. I firmly believe that, if rock music, newfangled dances, comics, MTV, and video games didn't exist, the general population would still find something to blame their kids' stupidity on. Sorry folks, it isn't the GTA3 or the XMen or the Jackass that made your kid set himself on fire. See, Jimmy has a disease known as "being 14". It could be fatal.

05-23-2003, 01:48 PM	#41 (permalink)
Vincentt Addict Location: Tokyo, Japan	TV and movies rot your brain! Those new age books are rotting your brain! Don’t listen to that rebel’s speech; it will rot your brain! YOUR BRAIN IS ROTTING! The only way to raise children is how the person telling you how to raise children was raised. __________________ . Last edited by ARTelevision; 05-23-2003 at 02:37 PM..

05-24-2003, 06:13 PM	#42 (permalink)
charlesesl Psycho	How ironic that in American, the great land of freedom, even video games are resiticts. Serously though, i think this whole thing is a blame game. When some dumpass smoke to death, he can sue the tobbaco company for giving him cancer. When two confused kids shoots 20 kids dead in a high school, the whole thing is blamed on video games. I am not saying that violent video games never increase the probobility of kid become more violent. But video games are not the ones to blame. Instead, i think school shootings are more caused be the lack of moral educations by the public education and by the parents. I have immegrated to canada 6 years ago and have attended elementary school and high school. I was surprised by the fact that there is not course that tell kids what is right from what is wrong. I dont know much about amerca, but i assume that it is much the same. The same goes to parents, parents in western society gives their kids to much freedom., and not enough guidance. I find it funny that these kids are not taught what is right, only avoided what is wrong __________________ It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. Dr. Viktor E. Frankl

05-24-2003, 06:22 PM	#43 (permalink)
Miekle Insane Location: your front door...ding dong	I believe the only impact it has on the child dues to the way they are treated by thier parents. A child that is sheltered by thier parents would probably be inflused buy a game like grand theft auto and thats not even the worst out there. On the other hand a child that isn't sheltered so much won't even think of it as much. He obviously knows its bad to go out and kill people but he isn't likely to go do it just because he finds it fun on a video game. The expample I have would be my brother and my girlfriends brother who is the same age as my brother. His parents would never let him play GTA and he thinks its a horribly bad "adult" game. Meanwhile my brother plays it and doesn't really think its all that bad, he knows its just a game. I used grand theft auto as an example cause that is the most widely known vid game where you can pick up hookers and later kill em off and take your cash back. It is by far not the worst out there. But either way I think the whole violence and reality controversy on video games is and should be handled by thier parents. Last edited by Miekle; 05-24-2003 at 06:25 PM..

05-24-2003, 06:52 PM	#44 (permalink)
cdwonderful another passenger Location: Youngstown, Ohio	ergo, the cloning of new minds will be a booming business... __________________ Never try to teach a pig to whistle it wastes your time, and annoys the pig.....

05-25-2003, 08:09 AM	#45 (permalink)
ARTelevision I change Location: USA	OK. There are a lot of posts of this sort, "this stuff won't cause a normal person whose parents were paragons of parenting to kill," etc. That's not the point. Neither is the point something like, "I use this stuff and it doesn't destroy my mind." That's great if your are superhuman and can resist the thing I'm trying to pin down. But what you're not addressing is the degree to which sociopathological messages have an influence on us all. The last several entries in my journal are an attempt to sketch out the situation as I see it generally operating in all our lives. The discussion of this is great - don't get me wrong. It would be even greater if we could get past polarized positions to a common ground in which we could discuss the effects of popular culture on us all. Maybe it's time for a new thread. __________________ create evolution Last edited by ARTelevision; 05-25-2003 at 03:59 PM..

05-25-2003, 03:33 PM	#46 (permalink)
komodo Tilted	1. I really don't think that video games like GTA3 "destroy kids' minds". The Charleston didn't, rock music didn't, comics didn't, MTV didn't, and I think that it's just a kneejerk reaction to believe that the newest, most rebellious, and violentest form of entertainment for kids is going to rot their brains. 2. That said, if you BELIEVE that videogames screw kids up/turn em into mass murderers, than a law like this makes perfect sense. 3. Except that any kid who has a desire to play GTA3 is going to find it very easy to get a copy illegally. Just like kids danced the Charleston without permission, listened to rock music on headphones, borrowed "Violent Gorefest COMIX" from their friends, and watched MTV at someone else's house... if a kid wants to do something, they'll find a way to do it. 4. Mind control seems like the obvious solution. 5. Kids have always been, and will always be, stupid punks. They became bratty, shortsighted dumbasses around age 13 and leave that phase in anywhere from 1 to 50 years. 6. I firmly believe that, if rock music, newfangled dances, comics, MTV, and video games didn't exist, the general population would still find something to blame their kids' stupidity on. Sorry folks, it isn't the GTA3 or the XMen or the Jackass that made your kid set himself on fire. See, Jimmy has a disease known as "being 14". It could be fatal.