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Deckard 11-16-2004 04:46 AM

I dont smoke pot because I've never really had the need or want. As far as I can see it, it's an expensive way of killing time when you either cant sleep or find something better to do.

wgheow 11-16-2004 04:58 AM

doing drugs is a NONO people ! ...no good for health babeh.

itwasntme 11-16-2004 05:25 AM

drugs are bad mmmkay

Blackthorn 11-16-2004 05:42 AM

1) It's illegal
2) It's been determined to be more highly detrimental to your health than tobacco
3) I don't find people who are stoned to generally be exhibiting the type of behavior that I would like emulate.

I will grant you this....pot smells good when it's burning. It's certainly better than cigars or cigarettes.

Captain Nemo 11-16-2004 05:56 AM

Hmmm, I wonder why it is that the people that are espousing the evils of marijuana, seem to have atrocious spelling and grammatical skills, yet they keep claiming that pot makes you stupid.....

Just curious......

Pragma 11-16-2004 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suave
If you would like me to elaborate, I shall once you decide to expand your answer.

Fair enough: the thought of smoking pot just doesn't interest me. I do plenty of exciting things with my life (rock climbing, working on cars, IT work, etc.) that I see no need to smoke pot. I honestly can't imagine myself wanting to smoke pot, for any reason.

Captain Nemo 11-16-2004 06:39 AM

Pragma, I respect your position. I also do plenty of exciting things. I'm actually leaving for Rincon, Puerto Rico in two weeks to do a solid week of diving and hiking. I still, however, will imbibe a little at the end of the day. (place emphasis on "a little")

Eweser 11-16-2004 07:38 AM

I never have tried it and never plan to. I grew up with a bunch of people that did smoke it, but it never held any interest to me, plus I don't like the smell. I agree with what others have said here: everything is about moderation and excess.

Stompy 11-16-2004 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pragma
See, to me, this question is slightly skewed. I don't smoke pot because I don't want to. That is the final reason.

My question to you:
If you do smoke marijuana, please provide the number one reason you do. Thank you

Same reason why one would drink an alcoholic beverage.

Seems kinda silly asking "If you do drink alcohol, please provide the number one reason you do," right?

No difference.

roachboy 11-16-2004 09:07 AM

it is also strange how many of the arguments against pot sound like they come from "reefer madness"--a testimony to the formation of reagan youth, i suppose (just say no--hysteria is the anti-drug)......

no matter, in the larger scheme of things. i am probably equally so when it comes to cocaine.

Suave 11-16-2004 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pragma
Fair enough: the thought of smoking pot just doesn't interest me. I do plenty of exciting things with my life (rock climbing, working on cars, IT work, etc.) that I see no need to smoke pot. I honestly can't imagine myself wanting to smoke pot, for any reason.

The thought of smoking post DID interest me, and once I tried it and enjoyed it, I decided to continue it (on an infrequent basis).

Suave 11-16-2004 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KellyC
Suave

Key word: Personally, which is why I only only about myself and not other people. Different strokes for different folks. I think I can have fun without getting high, that's all. :thumbsup:

Yeah, I just get a little rankled when you get THOSE PEOPLE who feel that, to justify their lack of drug use, they have to attack drug users. AND THEY DON'T USE ARGUMENTS THAT MAKE ANY SENSE. What you said resembled that a little too much, and you got to see my argumentative side. ;)

Coppertop 11-16-2004 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Nemo
Hmmm, I wonder why it is that the people that are espousing the evils of marijuana, seem to have atrocious spelling and grammatical skills, yet they keep claiming that pot makes you stupid.....

Just curious......

Yes, makes you wonder doesn't it?

Coppertop 11-16-2004 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjroh
2) It's been determined to be more highly detrimental to your health than tobacco

Where'd you read/hear/see this? I for one have never heard of one single person ever dying of lung cancer caused by marijuana.

thesupermikey 11-16-2004 12:53 PM

pot is like beer. Ever ones in a while its cool, do it to much it can fuck your shit up.

tooth 11-16-2004 12:58 PM

What it boils down to for me, is that the opportunity just never happened to arise when I was younger and likely to give it a try. Nowadays the idea just doesn't appeal to me. I can't say that I have anything against it, or the people that do it. There just seems to be no good reason for me to start now.

Cobalt_60 11-16-2004 02:28 PM

I actually tried it in my youth and I didn't see what the appeal was. I don't smoke regular cigarettes either. Both my brothers smoke cigarettes. They have since high school.

Manic_Skafe 11-16-2004 02:40 PM

I do smoke marijuana because I'm interested in alternate states of conciousness. I find that when I'm under the influence of marijuana I can still concentrate and do most of not all of the things I could do if I weren't - it just opens me up to different and more complex thoughts.

There's a depth within myself that I could reach through the use of mood altering substances but I'm not shooting up everything in my bathroom cabinet to open up my 3rd eye - that's what meditation is for.

After having tried several mood altering substances (most of which I'll never do again) I can say that no 2 people react to any drug in the same manner and what you expect to happen from taking any mood altering substances has the most baring on how you will react to it.

There have been a million different studies that could prove whatever you'd like them to prove about drugs - until you've dropped all your preconceptions and actually tried them then you can't judge the drugs or anyone that does them.

Rodney 11-16-2004 02:54 PM

The giggles. Hate the giggles. And it's not worth the money. If it cost no more than a good drink of quality scotch -- and when I started out, a joint could be had for that little -- it might be a somewhat different story.

reiii 11-16-2004 03:24 PM

Because being an FBI agent is the back up plan ;)

The Magic 11-16-2004 06:44 PM

1. Smoking is disgusting
2. All the negative side effects
3. It costs a lot of money
4. Not worth the risk of getting caught and facing penalty from the law

Stompy 11-16-2004 08:02 PM

It actually doesn't cost all that much. I don't know where people get this from.

$10 for a dimebag compared that could last you weeks if used sparingly (and a few hits is all ya really need) vs.. a 12 pack for the same price. I know for me it takes about 4-5 beers to even get a good buzz. Screw that.

Of course, the more you buy at once, the better the deal you get. If you only smoke sparingly and buy an eigth for $25 (I think that's how much it is), unless you're a hardcore pothead, that shit would last you for quite a while.

Alcohol is flat out way more expensive. How much is a bottle of tequila.. like $15-20? Yeah, that'd probably last ya a bit longer than the weed, but it's all relative.

la petite moi 11-16-2004 08:06 PM

Don't smoke because I know no one who does, so it's not like I can get any.

radioguy 11-16-2004 08:12 PM

i don't smoke because i can relax without help.

Paradise Lost 11-16-2004 09:44 PM

We'll use the classic Nick Swardson joke:
"... Oh yeah, like it sucks remembering where I put stuff now. 'Where'd I put my car keys?' 'Oh, they're in my pocket.' ... 'How'd I know that?! I must have super powers or something..."

Eye like my brian cels write wear they ar. That's why I don't smoke pot.

Besides, like Radio Guy said, I can figure out other ways to relax myself. :thumbsup:

irseg 11-16-2004 10:22 PM

I like how pot mellows me out (it's a good stress releiver), but it's not worth the other side effects. I don't like feeling completely stupid, forgetting what I was talking about in mid-sentence, feeling paranoid, and wanting to eat like 20 hamburgers.

I think it affects me differently than most people. I always hear people say they can concentrate so well when they're stoned, and that they drive better. The only thing I can concentrate on is what I can find to eat next. And between feeling totally uncoordinated, paranoid, forgetting what I was doing 20 seconds ago, and having a narrowed field of vision, driving is pretty much out of the question. Pot doesn't impress me too much.

xxSquirtxx 11-16-2004 10:42 PM

I had to quit when I joined the military years ago. And I just never started back up. No desire. :)

aktornado 11-16-2004 10:50 PM

Never felt the need to.

Eight 11-17-2004 03:12 AM

I like being awake rather than feeling half asleep all the time.

Dont need to to have a laugh, feel good.

Waste of money.

Dont smoke

(but I did use to smoke loads of it, now I see the errors of my ways, hehe)

wnker85 11-17-2004 09:27 AM

Never really wanted too, even though I knew people that did.
But, the risks of it all outweigh any benifits that I could get from it.

Plus, those who smoke didn't get high for a while when they started smoking pot (six months for one guy) but they kept smoking. Seems like its the "COOL" thing to do. And thats not what I want to do to be cool

Shirtninja 11-17-2004 10:03 AM

It seems like most my friends smoke pot, half of them because its the 'cool' thing to do and everyone else is doing it. I think its a waste of my time and money. Plus I really like the idea of being able to tell both my little brother and my future kids if I have any that you can just do other things.

bookerV 11-17-2004 10:28 AM

No desire at all. I think smoking anything is pretty discusting...

I've smoked before back when I was in highschool and even a little bit when I was in University. But now I just don't see the appeal at all. I've got better things to do... It just wipes me out, at least when I'm drunk I'm hyper, but when I smoked up it always made me sleepy and way too quiet...

dontmisspel 11-17-2004 04:20 PM

i don't need anything to make me feel good, i think pot changes a person and i like who i am, i don't want a drug to influence me in any way.

canuckguy 11-17-2004 04:28 PM

i use to smoke everyday, not all day, just after work a couple hours before bed, missus got pregs, gave it up, have not smoked in about a year or so. i miss it, but cool without it.

cheezhead 11-17-2004 04:48 PM

I luv to smoke! But i have many obstacles to overcome, which makes it more of a high! First i get drug tested, second its a real hassle most of the time to score,third, i have to hide it from my kids. But when i have it, its a real blast!!!! Especially the quantity of pot now a days! Yum! Its a nice release.I get real creative on it and do some of my best work. You guys can slam away on being stupid and being non productive and lazy, but works just the opposite on me. I have 6 fiqure job, not lazy or stupid, and just have a good ole time smokin.
Puff,Puff! :thumbsup:

Baron Opal 11-18-2004 03:02 AM

1- Because smoking is nasty.
2- If I want a chemical form of recreation, alchohol is effective, cheaper, and legal.
3- I'm a pharmacist, and getting busted would destroy my livelihood.

Esen 11-18-2004 03:12 AM

My son
Makes you feel tired
Why risk my job for it.
My Lungs
Money
Inconveient -You have to keep hiding it, mask your odor.
Dulls your senses

And after all of those reasons I don't look down on somepone who smokes it. It is just not for me anymore. When I was a teenager I think it messed with my brain cells, I'm not even kidding. My memory isn't as good as I think it could be.
I guess we just make bad decisions when we're kids trying to break out of puberty.

Oh, and I hate having to fiend for anything
Don't like to be controlled, I'm already married

punx1325 11-18-2004 09:39 AM

I have smoked a few times, but I do not partake anymore simply because I do not like it. Everytime I have smoked I have had a bad experience. I'll just stick to alcohol, it's cheaper and doesn't stay tracible for 30 days...

RolandGilead 11-18-2004 09:52 AM

Weed makes your brain totally lame, I can see this happening to more than one of my friends, no problem with smoking a bit on weekends, but if you do it on a daily base it is absolutley horrible.
I never tasted it, I prefer Alcohol, way much funnier..

JayRock 11-18-2004 09:05 PM

1) Its a waste of time
2) Only IDIOTS do it
3) Its a waste of your life
4) Id rather spend my money on something more useful

Tex 11-18-2004 10:38 PM

1) I've got enough problems in my life, no need to add anymore.

2) When I have kids, I don't want them to use me as an excuse for their decision to use it. (i.e. "well, you did it when you were younger.")

3) It's most definately a gateway drug. The world that it leads to is a place that I want no part of. One of my closest friends started off with marijuana and at the end of his journey into the drug world was in constant fear for his life.

4) To me, it shows strong character to be able to rise above peer pressure and not do it just because it's "cool."

amnesia622 11-19-2004 09:17 AM

It gets to the point where there is absolutely no enjoyment in being high. Therefore you just stop and don’t care about it anymore.

OFKU0 11-19-2004 09:36 AM

Just saw these recently:

2) Only IDIOTS do it
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Well I do it and I'm not an idiot. If smoking for 25 years makes me as such, o.k. I'll take your word for it. But how does that explain that I am quite comfortably successful in life and that I attribute some of my success to smoking. Don't say denial now,...


It's most definately a gateway drug.
----------------------------------
Yes and no. It strictly depends on the individual. For anyone to unconditionally argue that pot is a bonafide 100% gateway drug for everyone who ever uses it, quite frankly doesn't have a clue what they are talking about.

pinkie 11-19-2004 09:37 AM

Ummmmmm.....................

I forgot. :D

sprocket 11-20-2004 06:50 PM

Well... been there, done that. Ive experienced everything it has to offer me, many many times over. On top of that it makes it really hard to be motivated about anything except smoking more of it. Its really not all its cracked up to be.

powerclown 11-20-2004 07:30 PM

-Because my angry & vindictive ex would then take my kids away from me tomorrow, just out of spite.
-Because I don't want said kids to pick up the habit - from me, anyway.
-Because I gained over 50lbs through the munchies.
-Because I've seen Bad Things happen to people who smoked pot with their parents.

I've been immensely tempted to start up again lately, as I did enjoy the alternate universe it temporarily transported me to. I also enjoyed going to Amsterdam.

Ustwo 11-20-2004 07:45 PM

A better question is why should I.

Cowman 11-20-2004 07:49 PM

A) too much money
B) the health effects...the munchies really packs the weight on for me. as well, gynocemastia has been linked to smoking weed

Sika2 11-20-2004 11:53 PM

Weed
 
Theres enough weeds in my garden and pollution in my lungs without me intentionally adding to my woes.

Brooke 11-21-2004 12:06 AM

No person has ever given me a good reason/argument as to why a reliance on a drug would benifit me or those I love.

jon_264 11-21-2004 12:54 AM

Personally I don't need a drug to mellow me out! I'm too laid back as it is!
I did try it in my college days and didn't think much of it then so the idea of doing it again now doesn't appeal to me.

werneron 11-21-2004 12:55 AM

I wasted 15 years of my youth smoking pot. I'll never get them back.

I was too stoned to finish school, have any ambition, or get laid. Feel pretty stupid about it now.

CityOfAngels 11-21-2004 01:18 AM

I don't smoke marijuana because:

* I play basketball on a regular basis, and need my lungs to work at their full capacity.
* I, personally, am an idiot goofball when high, and I don't like other people seeing me that way.
* I got tired of hiding the fact that I was high from my friends and family.
* I like to have the most control of my body as possible.
* If I started up again, it might lead me to starting up in tobacco again, also, since I relate the two as I quit them at the same time.
* My father has smoked pot all his life, and it is one of my life-goals to be as different from him as possible (if you knew him, you'd have the same goal, too).

basmoq 11-21-2004 09:34 AM

why inhale something that takes away your ability to reason! I value every minute I have with my brain working and hate that I have to sleep so much.

cj2112 11-21-2004 09:39 AM

I used to smoke it all the time, but as I got older I found that my drug use was interfering with my life, so i stopped. My employer drug tests at random, it is illegal (although I think that law is ridiculous). Those are the reasons I stopped using dope. If it were to become legal tomorrow, and my employer could no longer test for it, then I would probably start smoking again.

woody3rd 11-21-2004 09:51 AM

My mom smoked enough of it while I was growing up that it turned me away from it. Same with drinking and smoking cigs. I am 33 and have never smoked mj or cigs. I rarely drink. It has been over two years that I last had a drink. I never ever had a beer, again it was mom's drink of choice, so it became a turn-off. My wife is a non-drinker/smoker also. I don't think I could be with a wife that did smoke or drink daily.

noodles 11-21-2004 12:37 PM

1) i don't smoke anything, i just don't like the notion and health risks
2) i work for the dept of defense. drugs -> fired
3) my girlfriend smokes a lot of pot and she told me that she can't think straight without it or solve complex problems because she can't think creatively enough to figure out how to solve the problem without it. i don't want that.
4) any drug has never interested me. if i was more popular in my impressionable high school days, i might have been offered and partaken. but now i have some strong values that i don't intend on breaking.

LIMilf 11-21-2004 01:29 PM

Job does random drug checks, so if im caught with it in my system, im gone.

Stompy 11-21-2004 01:58 PM

This thread's pretty amusing.

I especially love the "I like being in control" reasons - because we ALL know how much control we have when we consume alcohol :thumbsup:

I also love the repeated "only idiots do it".

:chuckle:

Keep em comin!

Boo 11-21-2004 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stompy
This thread's pretty amusing.

I especially love the "I like being in control" reasons - because we ALL know how much control we have when we consume alcohol :thumbsup:

I also love the repeated "only idiots do it".

:chuckle:

Keep em comin!

I put this here linky but it aslo fits here.


IMO & experience.

Living in Alaska (and the front range in Colorado) I have seen the effects of weed. Of the people that I went to high school with the ones still smokin' are still struggling to get by while defending their right to partake. The ones that shook it off as a stage that they went through are making good money, buying nice homes and working for solid companies. Almost daily I see the effects of families with parents that still choose to smoke. The sight is sometimes pretty rough, kids in worn out clothes, cars that should not be on the road, bounced checks, and little or no hope for prosperity in their future. While they are not the average criminal, they are not fulfilling the American dream either.

Alaska has huge "sin taxes" on alcohol and tobacco. We just had a young man rape and kill his step mother who is utilizing the "I was stoned" defence. Do I believe that weed was responsible, NO, do I believe that the young man has other problems that were influenced and that weed contributed to the murder, YES.

If you decide to smoke, remember that it effects people in your circle of friends and family, your income, your health, and ability to think and reason.

Do I believe that a person can have an occasional bowl and not have any of the problems stated above.... YES. If I were out campin in the bush and someone offered a bowl as a one time thing......there better be some serious food in the camper.

Thats my personal take on smokin' pot.

Boo 11-21-2004 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkie
Ummmmmm.....................

I forgot. :D

Now this is funny AND appropriate!

filtherton 11-21-2004 02:15 PM

Why don't i drink robitussin on a regular basis?

I don't know, because it sucks? Yep.

I don't feel like i need an escape from sobriety to have a good time. I have been moderately disgusted more than a few times by friends who can't handle doing anything without first getting high. I have been more disgusted by the many users who don't feel comfortable being around people who don't use. I don't really drink that much either. I guess i just think intoxication as recreation is a waste of time.

Stompy 11-21-2004 03:20 PM

I think a big problem is the fact that people try to demonize it by giving examples and saying, "These people failed in life because of it." It's simply not true. Did those people fail? Yes, but they didn't fail because of the drug. They failed because they weren't responsible.

In boo's example of people not moving forward in life - that's strictly will and ambition. A drug won't change that unless you make the conscious choice to sit around all day doing it. Considering weed is NOT addictive, that's like saying, "Video games ruined these people's lives. All they do is sit around and play Halo 2 all day." Yeah, it CAN be bad (I know people who've failed classes because of video games), but it's not a reason to put it down.

Some of the most successful and responsible people I know use it on a fairly regular basis, and I've also learned to use (when I was doing it) responsibly, so that's why my opinions on this matter are how they are. Of all the people I've ever known in my life, only TWO have been "failures", but their personalities were like that before they even smoked, so I really shouldn't even be counting them.

I think a lot of people need to lighten up in how they view it and unlearn a lot of the uninformed crap they've picked up over the years from the government and media. Either that or people need to take a consistent stance. If you're against weed, then be just as against caffeine, smoking, and drinking. No hovering in between with the "yeah, but those are legal."

We all know that there are plenty of laws that make no sense, so just because it's illegal doesn't make it wrong.

It really boils down to this (and I've said it before elsewhere): there's no difference between the already legal substances and marijuana, yet when people reply, they make it seem like it's the most horrible thing on this planet. They'll say things like, "It's too expensive, I have better things to do with my time, it's pointless, people are dumb, etc", yet, they'll go out to a bar, spend $20 and get drunk for a few hours and see absolutely no problems with it - or they smoke... or they'll be incredibly obese and drop $20 a week on fast food. As if those are any better, ya know?

That just strikes me as very odd. It's quite disturbing that people don't question these things more often. I believe we'd be better off as a society if they did.

klep 11-21-2004 03:56 PM

i've only smoked a bit of marijuana - like 20 or so times. i enjoyed it when i did it. Things are so much funnier when watching them and sometimes a really good laugh fest whilst watching family guy or Father Ted on it makes you feel a lot better once you were totally sober. Music also sounded amazing when on it. Throw on AiC's Unplugged album and it totally engulfed me. The sounds were so crisp and real.

However, i havent smoked it in 7 months or so even though i have some in my room in at the moment. it's just completely unaddictive for me personally. i don't have a desire to do it at all. i think i will soon as i really do like th effect it has on me.

Another reason is that, for me, weed is a solitary thing. i find stoned people annoying when i'm sober, and i find them annoying when i'm high. i like to chill in my room with the music cranked and think about unimaginably complex things that seem to make that bit more sense when i'm high. Now i'm at uni i'm never alone for more than an hour so i'm a bit screwed there too.


Also, smoking has to tbe the rankest thing ever. i really hate smoking the shit. rough stuff.

so there you go.

johnsimon885 11-21-2004 05:13 PM

I'm interested in staying healthy and smart, pot doesn't seem to be a brilliant idea in that light. The legality issues dont' really worry me (as I'm not at all convinced I'd be caught if I were smart about it), but I drink very infrequently and not to the point where I'd make myself sick and if I did try pot it would only be as an experiment, nothing I would undertake more frequently. I don't have the time, money, or desire for that sort of thing.

Boo 11-21-2004 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stompy
I think a big problem is the fact that people try to demonize it by giving examples and saying, "These people failed in life because of it." It's simply not true. Did those people fail? Yes, but they didn't fail because of the drug. They failed because they weren't responsible.

In boo's example of people not moving forward in life - that's strictly will and ambition. A drug won't change that unless you make the conscious choice to sit around all day doing it. Considering weed is NOT addictive, that's like saying, "Video games ruined these people's lives. All they do is sit around and play Halo 2 all day." Yeah, it CAN be bad (I know people who've failed classes because of video games), but it's not a reason to put it down.

Some of the most successful and responsible people I know use it on a fairly regular basis, and I've also learned to use (when I was doing it) responsibly, so that's why my opinions on this matter are how they are. Of all the people I've ever known in my life, only TWO have been "failures", but their personalities were like that before they even smoked, so I really shouldn't even be counting them.

I think a lot of people need to lighten up in how they view it and unlearn a lot of the uninformed crap they've picked up over the years from the government and media. Either that or people need to take a consistent stance. If you're against weed, then be just as against caffeine, smoking, and drinking. No hovering in between with the "yeah, but those are legal."

We all know that there are plenty of laws that make no sense, so just because it's illegal doesn't make it wrong.

It really boils down to this (and I've said it before elsewhere): there's no difference between the already legal substances and marijuana, yet when people reply, they make it seem like it's the most horrible thing on this planet. They'll say things like, "It's too expensive, I have better things to do with my time, it's pointless, people are dumb, etc", yet, they'll go out to a bar, spend $20 and get drunk for a few hours and see absolutely no problems with it - or they smoke... or they'll be incredibly obese and drop $20 a week on fast food. As if those are any better, ya know?

That just strikes me as very odd. It's quite disturbing that people don't question these things more often. I believe we'd be better off as a society if they did.

If you and your friends are successful etc.... then you are the exception to the rule. I have known people to throw companies, occupations, marriages, educations and friendships out for a bit of weed. I am not talking about "hard" drugs, just weed (sometimes not even for "good" weed).

My example is from life. Life has many lessons. I try to learn from both the good and bad experiences that myself and others have encountered. Ask someone who has failed a drug test and ruined a military career, or has been dismissed from a job that had potential.

I believe that pot is addictive. If not physically, at least mentally. Too many rational thinking friends have made life altering decisions while in a haze. Call it a choice. You only get so many.

Your opinion is known, while I do not agree with it, I do respect your right to it. I do hope it is as informed as you believe. Remember that a person that makes a choice to partake in pot also accepts its responsibilities and consequences.

Justifying because of legality, alcohol or cost does not make it a good choice. It just makes it easier to justify.

amnesia622 11-21-2004 06:34 PM

VERY well said stompy I totally agree

tecoyah 11-21-2004 06:48 PM

Paranoia....seriously, It makes me totally paranoid

miyamotomusashi 11-21-2004 07:16 PM

#1 I have always found the smell awful
(Also money, law, health, and I am not that stable to start with)

splck 11-21-2004 09:05 PM

I'll only pipe in to say I agree 100% with Stompy.

Lot's of funny stuff here..

sonikeko 11-22-2004 12:00 AM

I don't smoke weed anymore because I get really bad panick attacks when I do. Pretty bad shit too: Heart races out of control, I get hot flashes, numbness in the laft arm, shortness of breath, kinda all of the classic heart-attack symptoms. I do miss it a lot though. I too was very creative when I was high. I loved the feeling and the experience. Sometimes I wish I could still smoke, but I was pretty bad with the shit for a while. I smoked it all of the time. Actually dropped out of college so I could devote more time to work and getting the money to party 24-7

Evil Milkman 11-22-2004 08:42 AM

I hardly ever smoke pot.

I will, however, reward myself with a Sampoerna X-tra clove cigarette on occasion.

Janey 11-22-2004 11:22 AM

Because it isn't high on my list of priorities. I love the smell, but I've got more important things to do than smoke up.

Oh, and I don't want to go buying it either. Wine is expensive enough, and I only partake on occasion (maybe 1 - 2 x per month).

The whole debate about pot smacks of inappropriate priorities. Honestly, our government actually took time to debate this. Personally, working saving money, and planning for the future are of tantamount importance. Pot is way down around the level of getting Halo 2.

bermuDa 11-22-2004 11:31 AM

why don't i smoke? because I used to, I don't need to, and there's a negative stigma attached to it.

I've been down that road and it only leads to snack foods. There are better ways to spend my time.

xda 11-22-2004 11:50 AM

Basically too scared of my addictive personality, I would probably be smoking crack in a week ...


XDA

paulskinback 11-22-2004 12:00 PM

nothing wrong with a bit of crack

Apokx 11-22-2004 05:06 PM

I dont smoke,dont drink,dont get high in any form.Nothing appealing to me about getting fucked up.There isnt enough positive to balance the negative,and after seeing people the way they act when drunk or high,it's just more incentive not to.

smooth 11-23-2004 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulskinback
nothing wrong with a bit of crack

that's what I was going to post :D

Shit, toss one on top of the other for doubleplus pleasure!

Robaggio 11-23-2004 01:46 AM

I don't because of the consequences if I do.

I can't afford the ticket. I can't afford to risk losing my job over a failed drug test either. I need money to pay for tuition, so until I'm out of college or win the lottery, pot-free is where I'll be.

I will however, at some point in my life, ingest pot. As an artist (music) I cannot deny the hard evidence throughout history that marijuana enhances the creative capabilities of the brain. All of the greats did it. I've done lots of research on the subject and have learned how THC effects the brain and body and I have no worries about giving it a try in a responsible environment. In fact, one of the first things my girlfriend and I are going to do when we get our own place is try marijuana for the first time (for us both!). We've got a whole line of things planned too. We're going to watch a movie, play video games, and most importantly: have sex.

So, does pot do anything to you guys during sex?

For the record: I've never smoked anything or even drank. How's that for a boring college life. :rolleyes:

smooth 11-23-2004 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Robaggio
I don't because of the consequences if I do.

I can't afford the ticket. I can't afford to risk losing my job over a failed drug test either. I need money to pay for tuition, so until I'm out of college or win the lottery, pot-free is where I'll be.

I will however, at some point in my life, ingest pot. As an artist (music) I cannot deny the hard evidence throughout history that marijuana enhances the creative capabilities of the brain. All of the greats did it. I've done lots of research on the subject and have learned how THC effects the brain and body and I have no worries about giving it a try in a responsible environment. In fact, one of the first things my girlfriend and I are going to do when we get our own place is try marijuana for the first time (for us both!). We've got a whole line of things planned too. We're going to watch a movie, play video games, and most importantly: have sex.

So, does pot do anything to you guys during sex?

For the record: I've never smoked anything or even drank. How's that for a boring college life. :rolleyes:

yep, does great things.

should be fun if it's both your first time!


from your research, you should remember that mj is a hallucinogen (HINT: make sure you get great stuff and have a sexual journey!)

Robaggio 11-23-2004 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by smooth
yep, does great things.

should be fun if it's both your first time!


from your research, you should remember that mj is a hallucinogen (HINT: make sure you get great stuff and have a sexual journey!)

Great! I'm excited! If only I didn't have to wait so long to begin that journy :) It'll be a while until I'm in a secure enough environment that I can afford losing my shitty "bearly above minimum-wage" job if things hit the fan.

Stompy: Great post. You've formed into words the thoughts which have been swimming in my head for quite some time. Have you seen the recent commercials demonizing pot? Those things tick me off. They're flat out lies akin to the 'duck and cover' commercials of yesteryear. Just flat out lies- how can they do this? How can anti-anti-drug people even begin to combat something that preys on the fact that people can't think for themselves. My instinct is to educate people. However, since they cannot think for themselves, what good will that do? I really want to do something against the 'anti-drug' commercials (specifically the anti-pot ones). I just don't know how to go about doing it.

pig 11-23-2004 04:18 AM

Quote:

So, does pot do anything to you guys during sex?
From my experience, you might want to watch out for a bit of dryness from your girlfriend. I've encountered it a few times...I personally love to have sex (and do a few other things) when I've partaken, but I've had a few girlfriends whose bodies wouldn't cooperate with their desires, so to speak.

Regarding legality - I more or less adhere to a position similar to Stompy et al. I could care less who uses various substances, as long as they are responsible and accept accountability for their actions. I really can't begin to fathom how the current policy of the United States, in particular, and for that matter much of the world can not be viewed as hypocracy. Drug use is, always has been, and always will be a facet of human society. I think it's more of a question of how you deal with drug use, and how you treat abuse. Specifically regarding the use of marajuana, the simple truth is the detrimental effects that are often observed with marajuana use are no where near severe enough to warrant the light in which is held in our society from a legal standpoint - especially in light of the standard we have set with respect to acceptance of the debilitating effects of alchohol, and the addictive qualities of nicotine. The combination of those two drugs is far more detrimental to one's health than that of marajuana.

Regarding why one should/would use herb...well...obviously, if you don't like to use mind/perception altering substances, you're not going to like marajuana. If you do, I personally think it's one of the best. I'm not a regular user these days, in fact it's been a really long time since I last smoked; however, I think that the issue of becoming lazy and sitting around eating Cheetos while watching Darkman re-runs is primarily an issue of choice. I always loved to run, play soccer, play music and so forth when I was high. I always felt as though the situation you placed yourself in had a large effect on what you did, as well (like it always does, with or without the influence of drugs). If you go your friend's house, and there is nothing but a Playstation and some pizza, and you've got a bag of herb...you're probably going to play video games and sit on your duff. If you go to a party with a deck of cards, or to a friend's house with a soccer ball...you're probably going to play a game of spades or knock the ball around.

samiam 11-23-2004 12:12 PM

Just coping with reality is enough of a high.
The problem with most "drugs" is that they can become addictive. Addictions are hell. The drug becomes the reason for living and life is just a way to get the drug. Since I know I am not strong enough to break an addiction, I refrain from taking the first step.

Supple Cow 11-23-2004 10:51 PM

This is a really easy question for me to answer -

Because I regularly do stupid shit and handle social situations perfectly without weed and it would be really stupid for me to go out of my way to choose an illegal substance just for a little something different. A drinky-poo is usually enough for me if I'm really in the mood and I don't have to worry about any smudges on my record from it.

thingstodo 11-24-2004 04:29 AM

Lungs....

Smoked it years ago. Sometimes occassionally, but usually daily until he bag was gone since it was tough to keep it fresh. Never at near, around or beore work.

Then I bought a humidor and that worked, so a bag would last for months with occassional use. But then I got into riding bikes for 50, 60, 70 miles. Wanted to save my lungs. Also grew up I guess.

Did you know the smoke from one joint equals a whole pack of cigs??

Fly 11-24-2004 08:08 AM

it's a tool...........you learn how to use tools in life,and the more you use the tools,the better you get at controling them.........hey,each to there own i say.

laziness.........bullshit.....you were lazy to begin with then.

can't keep a job........bullshit again......kept the same job for the last 14 years........

i myself have figured out more things in life while stoned on pot......if you focus your energy to the task at hand......no problem with pot then.

music.........as roachboy said......it helps and/or enlightens the senses.(for me anyways)

every one has thier thoughts and feelings on what pot does ........good for you.

just don't stuff all the crap you've been "told", about the harms and risks of pot,down my throat.

been smokin' for many years.......and i don't need to.........i choose to.

*heads off to smoke a doobie,and will return later to see what kinda shit i just stirred up.*


not a dig at any of you who choose not to smoke,that's the good thing about life..........we have choices.


and i'm not preaching that pot is good for you........so don't preach how bad it is to those of us who do smoke.


(carry on folks) :rolleyes:

bermuDa 11-24-2004 08:32 AM

heh flyman, after listening to your voice I can actually hear you saying that! :D

I think the problem is not everyone who smokes habitually and few of those who oppose its use see it as a tool. they see it as a lifestyle.

Fly 11-24-2004 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bermuDa
heh flyman, after listening to your voice I can actually hear you saying that! :D

I think the problem is not everyone who smokes habitually and few of those who oppose its use see it as a tool. they see it as a lifestyle.


this is fine too bermuDa......each to thier own, right......my lifestyle is not all about gettin' high and pot is good,.........but,pot is in my lifestyle.

as well as are many other things........kids sports,thier homework, my job.....oil change on the vehicles,vacuum the basement,do the dishes.......pay the mortgage,take out the trash....you get where i'm comin' from i hope.............priorities....if you have them in order,whether you drink or smoke pot...or cigarrettes......there is not really a problem then.

pot to me should not be made such a huge deal of......if so,as many others have said......why not bring up the same Q to people who drink alcohol and smoke tobacco.....is it cuz these two deadly "choices" are legal?

sorry for mini rant........

KinkyKiwi 11-24-2004 11:00 AM

..one tequila*...2 tequila...3 tequila..floor...

i have other things taking up my time
:p

pig 11-24-2004 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bermuDa
I think the problem is not everyone who smokes habitually and few of those who oppose its use see it as a tool. they see it as a lifestyle.

You know, I think you're probably right about that. I've found it's usually because they've had to deal with someone before who was a real pain, and who also smoked marajuana. Even worse, they just suck up a stereotype from uninformed sources. To reiterate earlier points, I could say the same thing about video games. I used to work with a bunch of guys that played video games non-stop...always went to DefCon, etc. It's a lifestyle. It can be detrimental to other facets of one's life as well; for example, one of these guys would leave his wife and two kids waiting for him for hours at home after work, while he was hiding in our computer lab playing Quake.

I'm personally of the opinion that objects surrounding us (including drugs, video games, sexual partners, etc) don't take on a value in the sense of good or bad, so much as we define that value in our relationship to these external objects.

c172g 11-24-2004 12:19 PM

I love both smoking pot and drinking beer. I smoke pot probably eight or ten times a year, almost always with the same group of guys I partied with in college 15 years ago. I love the stuff, though I never buy it, just smoke it when someone's got it. I enjoy the hell out of getting a buzz on & laughing like a little kid being tickled. Both alcohol & weed give me a perma-grin.

And no, I don't need either alcohol or weed to make me happy. I'm married to a great gal & have two great kids. I laugh all day long whether I'm partying or not.

jbuffett 11-24-2004 12:38 PM

I got tired of feeling stupid when I woke up. OK, felt stupid the two times, but I need this head, and I couldn't shake the clouds from the noggin for a full 2 days after trying it. No more.

11-24-2004 01:07 PM

I'll tell you, i think the world would be a better place if everyone was a little altered. pot might just stop all the crazy.

Coppertop 11-25-2004 11:59 AM

"They lie about marijuana. Tell you that pot smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."

"Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to be a bit... unnatural?"

-Bill Hicks

electricman191 11-25-2004 04:47 PM

Growing up I felt I was on the hyper side of everything and was afraid that drugs could be more harmful if I got more hyper


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