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McDuffie 11-14-2004 07:11 PM

Why don't you smoke pot?
 
If you don't smoke marijuana, please provide the number one reason you don't. Thank you

Mcd

sadistikdreams 11-14-2004 07:17 PM

I do smoke MJ. But the only reason I wouldn't, is lack of money, or interest.

Church 11-14-2004 07:21 PM

Because I enjoy keeping all my brain cells?

tspikes51 11-14-2004 07:23 PM

I'm high enough without it... for real. I don't need any help.

Squishor 11-14-2004 07:23 PM

Because it stopped being fun for me and only made me see the negative in everything.

Boo 11-14-2004 07:25 PM

Drug use directly influences your ability to make money and your ability to keep and maintain a job. I have responsibilities.

phredgreen 11-14-2004 07:27 PM

i have number of answers to this question.

first, i'm a professional driver, and as such, can be called in for a drug screen at any time. i gotta keep my shit clean.

second, i'm a lower-middle class schmuck with bills and fiscal responsibility, so i don't need to piss my money away on pot when i've gotta make sure the power dosen't get shut off.

third, i'm adverse to the whole pothead lifestyle. seeing life through green-tinted glasses holds no appeal to me, and losing control of my functions isn't something i wanna deal with.

adam 11-14-2004 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McDuffie
If you don't smoke marijuana, please provide the number one reason you don't. Thank you

1) It makes you stupid.
2) I've known people who got addicted (including my brother) and had a difficult time getting their lives back in order.
3) Same reason I don't smoke -- it gives you lung cancer.
4) It's illegal. Absent a lot better reasons, I avoid illegal activities.

MooseMan3000 11-14-2004 07:35 PM

It doesn't feel good.

I saw my brother get heavily addicted to it, and my family has a history of addictions.

It's expensive, and I'd much rather spend my money on video games and/or sex toys.

You're awfully stupid when you're high.

Everyone I know that smokes pot is stupid even when they're not high. It may just be a coincidence, but the correlation is perfect.

But mostly the first reason.

Rdr4evr 11-14-2004 07:36 PM

1. It's a waste of money.
2. I like to be in the right frame of mind at all times.
3. The few people I know that do smoke act like jackasses.
4. It's fake (meaning people do it to fit in).
5. I am anti-drugs.

woOt? 11-14-2004 07:37 PM

I can't find anyone who sells the shit in Miami. Go figure..

I use it recreationally...once every couple of weeks. It beat drinking, that's for sure.
Now, how many of you that say you will never touch it are full blown alcoholics? Mmm?

ngdawg 11-14-2004 07:43 PM

I also know someone who is addicted- I have tried helping him get through quitting, but he started up again. The mood swings while getting it out of your system are astounding. And it is very expensive when it's part of your daily routine. That being said, I actually enjoy it when it's available to me, but, like having a few drinks with friends, I couldn't see doing it as part of a daily routine. It burns the throat more than any cigarette. You can get some pretty badly laced shit (once I had some laced with opium-crashing from a weed high is scary and unexpected when it happens). And, I'd never pay for it-my luck, I'd get arrested before it got into my purse!

Psycho Dad 11-14-2004 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo
Drug use directly influences your ability to make money and your ability to keep and maintain a job. I have responsibilities.

That pretty much sums it up for me as well. In fact I can't think of a single reason to smoke it.

Boo 11-14-2004 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woOt?
I can't find anyone who sells the shit in Miami. Go figure..

I use it recreationally...once every couple of weeks. It beat drinking, that's for sure.
Now, how many of you that say you will never touch it are full blown alcoholics? Mmm?

I enjoy alcohol. I can pass a pee test or BAT 365 days a year. I never drive after drinking.

Am I blown? Thats kind of personal and I rarely kiss and tell.

If I were in a situation where I could partake, I would have to think about it for a long while before burning a bowl. Yes, I would like to sample the weed, but not if there were ANY ramifications.

gdr2004 11-14-2004 07:50 PM

1) Smoking pot is like.. woah.. dumb.
2) I like my teeth, and I'd like to keep them until I die.
3) I hate the way it smells
4) I need all of my brain cells
5) Smoking pot in college? Oh no, that's not trendy.
6) I want to tell my kids that I stayed drug free, instead of telling them that they should learn from my mistakes.

bal8664 11-14-2004 07:51 PM

I'd liek to see a list of reasons TO smoke pot. I can't come up with any good ones myself.

raeanna74 11-14-2004 07:55 PM

I guess my # 1 reason is that I've never liked the altered consciousness that I have when I get a buzz from Alcohol, or medication such as morphine or codine when I was hospitalized. I don't expect I would really like the feeling that I could get from pot.

I have felt just a little curious about what it would be like but that curiousity has been overidden by a number of things.
2. Lack of knowledge where to acquire the drug.
3. Lack of desire to spend any money on something so "experimental" to me.
4. Fear or Addiction.
5. Sense of responsibility in other areas of my life and fear of failing in any area because of the altered mental ability.
6. Knowledge of the physical affects that the drug causes in the human body, esp. the brain.

I believe that's reason enough to avoid it all together. For most of these same reasons, except #2 I have avoided cigerettes and I rarely drink. Best to avoid the problems that can arise in the first place.

tspikes51 11-14-2004 07:56 PM

I also had a friend who was heavily addicted to pretty much any drug he could get (cocaine, crack, marijuana, PCP, LSD, valium, any kind of painkiller, anything else that will get you high). It almost ruined his life. I actually saw him have one of his worst trips. He came in to class on a really nice day, there wasn't a cloud in the sky. He came in and said something about how heavy it was raining outside. We thought he was kidding, but he was for real. He then sat down and his head pretty much just hit his desk really hard, and he nearly passed out, not even aware that we had a test that day. He had to be dragged out of the room. Luckily, he's been clean for over a year now thanks to rehab and NA, but suffers some nerve damage from his heavy usage for over 2 years. That's pretty much why I don't smoke pot.

Irishsean 11-14-2004 07:57 PM

I have more important things in my life to do than waste time, money and braincells to "feel good.
My girl, my job, my nephew, these things all make me happy without having to resort to an illegal substance that will get me fired, make me lose my girlfriend, or make me lose access to my nephew.

Fallon 11-14-2004 08:01 PM

I don't see a reason to try it anyway. Not something I think I'd enjoy. I have enough issues with emotions as it stands, don't need something altering them on me.

ARTelevision 11-14-2004 08:03 PM

I don't use it or alcohol because I am very interested in ordinary experience.

Da Munk 11-14-2004 08:06 PM

I like to be in control of all of my faculties, so I don't use drugs. I've also seen what drugs and alcohol have done to people I know and I don't want the same to happen to me.

Jeff 11-14-2004 08:08 PM

I smoke it on occasion.

If it's free, I'll smoke it.

Nothing I'd do on a regular basis, though.

Lockjaw 11-14-2004 08:11 PM

1) I don't do any mind altering drug. That includes alcohol. The fact I've consumed less than a total of like 6 alcoholic beverages totally kind of shows that I'm not going to jump on weed any time soon. I'm zany enough as it is that I don't need something to make me happy,uninhibited, or "fun". In fact I seriously feel sorry for people that are so uptight and hung up about something that they can't have fun without getting high or wasted first. Besides...go without sleep for about 26 hours straight and then go out partying you'll be so fucked people will swear you are high.

2) I don't have any high desire to intentionally fly in the face of a law that can get me sent up the river for a few years. That would be like me actively chosing not to get a drivers license.

3) I don't like the way people act when they get high much as I don't like the way a lot of people act when they get smashed. I odn't see the appeal of sitting around all day staring at nothing. Laughing at nothing. And doing...NOTHING. I can do that when I'm not high.

4) I think a lot of people that smoke it are trying very very hard to be "cool" and anti-establishment or unique. 4:20 stopped being cool or unique a long long long time ago.
The fact some kids GRANDPARENTS where puffing a bowl kind of ends that whole do it to be cool thing in my eyes.

5) The various health concerns that smoking anything can cause. It's bad enough I might get alzheimers for cooking on aluminum too much I don't need to get cancer for doing something stupid like paying money to screw up my mind while it's screwing up my body.

Lone Driver 11-14-2004 08:31 PM

Smoke > Eat > Sleep.... What's the fun in that?

LD

Smackre 11-14-2004 08:47 PM

never tried it

mo42 11-14-2004 09:00 PM

It's unhealthy for a variety of reasons, especially for the lungs and brain.

pan6467 11-14-2004 09:10 PM

I smoke it maybe 2 - 3 times a year, and only for a weekend of sex and wildness (but haven't this year at all). The reason I don't smoke it more is because it makes me totally horny (I'll stay hard the whole buzz irregardless of having sex), I get a great body buzz but my brain can't enjoy it so I get paranoid that I"ll be that way forever. I enjoy it too much and with an addictive behavior that can be the makings for a disaster if I let it.

So I'd say paranoia, plus the fact I wouldn't know where to buy it. I get it when I need it from friends and then am embarassed if I ask.

Jimellow 11-14-2004 09:10 PM

Don't see the point. Seems like a total waste to me, as does doing other drugs, including cigarettes and alcohol.

I like being aware, healthy, and like to find benefits in things before I do them.

I don't like stabbing myself in the leg with a knife either, but I'd argue that activity is just as worthless as smoking pot, or doing harder drugs.

JustDisGuy 11-14-2004 09:26 PM

Used it lots when I was younger - grew out of it. I prefer 'real' experiences to surreal now. Wouldn't probably start using it again even if it was legal because my bro snapped his nugget on it. Might've been laced, but no way to know for sure - only certain thing is he consistently chooses his weed over the welfare of his kids. Something wrong with that picture, and I want no part of it.

I do however advocate legalizing it. If nothing else, the substance could then actually BE controlled as opposed to just being LISTED as controlled. Fuckin beaurocrats.

Suave 11-14-2004 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bal8664
I'd liek to see a list of reasons TO smoke pot. I can't come up with any good ones myself.

1) it can provide a very unique enjoyable experience
2) it's a great way to meet new people (seriously it is)
3) doing it just once (or two to three times) just to try something new can be fun
4) makes a good pain killer and stress reliever

Lockjaw: sleep deprivation is worse and takes longer to rectify than being high. Longest I was ever stoned from weed was a few hours (and that's only because I ate it), whereas it can take weeks to fix a lack of sleep for 26 straight hours.

Stare At The Sun 11-14-2004 09:30 PM

Honestly, I have asthma, and it would probably kill me right quick.

Also, I'd get addicted, I know I would. :/

Zeraph 11-14-2004 09:39 PM

"Why don't you smoke pot?"
Because meth is better.

Seriously though, because I want to keep careers open (im still in college and may work for the gov), I don't like feeling out of control (can't really get drunk, only a buzz or I feel nauseous and dizzy), all my friends since 7-8th grade have done it, and I tend to do what others dont, risks in dealing with illegal stuff, etc the list goes on.

Stompy 11-14-2004 09:42 PM

The only reason I don't now is because I get paranoid. I get these odd irrational fears... one time I was convinced that someone else was in my house. (Don't ask why).

So when I wanna relax and mellow out, I drink a few beers.

I'd prefer weed, though, because I have a very creative mind, and when I smoke it... things take on a whole new light. Music sounds totally different. I hear/pick up certain things I would never normally hear when I'm sober (certain sounds, patterns in music, etc) I really enjoy reading when I'm stoned - I could read for HOURS and just soak up anything and everything. There was a time when I was 18-19 where I smoked it several times a week, and when I was stoned... I read nothing but technical books.. C++, code design/analysis, theories, etc.. (retained 100% of it too!)

When I'm sober, I have a habit of letting my mind wander when I'm reading, but when smoking weed.. wow, I could concentrate like you wouldn't believe.

Not only that, but I come up with questions and ideas for things that I'd never normally think of when I'm sober.. my blood pressure was a lot lower during that time period too :D

Contrary to what most believe, it's not really that bad aside from the fact you're actually smoking something and getting shit in your lungs.

[edit]
I also hate people who are 100% against smoking weed, but see no problem with getting drunk.

Well, let me rephrase that: if you are outspoken and go around saying, "What's the point in smoking weed? It's stupid." and you drink, then you are retarded. If you drink and CHOOSE not to smoke weed, but have no problems whatsoever with it in general, then you're fine :thumbsup:

guthmund 11-14-2004 09:47 PM

I only have two reasons for not smoking pot.

1- I have no fucking money. Home, food and electric are so much more important to me now than they were 5-6 years ago.

2- I'm too pretty for jail. ;)

tricks 11-14-2004 10:07 PM

Everyone else was doing it.

I wanted to be different. Unique. It seemed to me growing up that everyone I knew smoked pot. Kids smoked openly at school and nobody seemed to care. As I got older, it also seemed that I always knew people who smoked. It wasn't a big deal to them or me. I just choose not to participate.

onodrim 11-14-2004 10:09 PM

The main reasons for me would be a lack of money, keeping my voice as pure as possible (I'm a vocal performance major), and just the fact that I don't really like the feeling of not being totally in control of myself, be it drugs or alcohol.

Destrox 11-14-2004 10:30 PM

Smoke does not belong in our lungs, no matter the form.
I've seen to many negatives of what it can do from my friends.
I enjoy keeping my money and using it on more useful things.
I can enjoy life w/out the help of somthing else.
Its a mind altering drug, I'd rather drink in a controlled enviroment. (Which is rare anyways)
The fuckin horrible smell.
Societies negative view.
I grew up with a father who had lung disease, any idea of smoking anything, is bad mkay?
I've seen how people act on it, and in the eyes of a "sober" person yes you really do act like a complete utter moron when high.
No its not funny.

I'll just stop there.


Quote:

Originally Posted by woOt?
Now, how many of you that say you will never touch it are full blown alcoholics? Mmm?

As for that, please o please, share some form of reasoning for that silly comment.

pimpercrobian 11-14-2004 10:35 PM

i did almost a year ago and quit cause i just got bored with it. dont do it now cause it doesnt do anything for me so ya.

bingle 11-14-2004 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishsean
I have more important things in my life to do than waste time, money and braincells to "feel good.

Signature:
Quote:

Life's journey isn't to arrive at the grave in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, all worn out, shouting: Holy shit...what a ride!
Am I the only one who sees an interesting dichotomy between your post and your signature? :-)

And I realize the point of this thread was to list reasons not to smoke marijuana, not a debate, but there are some things I feel an obligation to address, for the sake of truth:

Marijuana is not physiologically addictive. It can be habit-forming and psychologically addictive, however, just like any activity (especially escapist activity, like TV or video gaming).

Marijuana has not been shown to have any more adverse a long-term effect on your brain tissue than alcohol. Many very smart individuals have used marijuana, such as Stephen Gould, Richard Feynman, and Carl Sagan.

Marijuana can do damage to your lungs, but it does not include the same carcinogens as tobacco. Since most marijuana is inhaled unfiltered, however, the smoke particulates which enter the lungs are much larger and more damaging than a typical cigarette. This is offset by the fact that most marijuana users smoke less than most cigarette users - but the overall effect is harm to your lungs. Non-smoke forms of THC do not have this problem.

I fully respect any individuals choice to not partake of any substance, especially given the current legal status of marijuana in the US. The average sentence of non-violent drug offenders is longer than the average sentence for murder! However, I think it is always a good idea to fully understand the real facts behind these things, and not just the appallingly deceptive DARE party line. I've done some research on drug legalization policy, and the misinformation given out in the name of education is scary. Lumping marijuana in with heroin or crack, and leaving out discussions of alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine is bizarre.

A good book to read if you're really interested in understanding the physical and psychological impact of various legal and illegal drugs is "Buzzed" - look for it on Amazon, or your favorite local bookseller.

Bingle

Fire 11-14-2004 11:36 PM

well, here in Columbia they have made it a misdemeanor, tops $250.00 fine and NO CRIMINAL RECORD, and it is now by law the "lowest enforcement priority " of the Columbia PD- we voted this in at the same time as a majority of us voted for bush- the major reason being that its a big time college town here- and drug bust= loss of scholarship= less revenue for the town= no opposition from the powers what is to the reform innititave- so here, legality is a minor issue, but my feelings have not changed, its basicly a controll issue for me- I rarely, ie once a year, get drunk, as while it may be fun, it erodes my controll of the situation, which is something I really like having- I also agree with Art, in that I feel that my body has enough drug dispensers built in for my taste- I love that natural feelings that we get from lifes experiences, unfiltered by any artificial substances......

Coppertop 11-15-2004 12:15 AM

Smoked back in my early 20s. And yes Bingle, it is amazing the amount of misinformation out there about it. Like most other things in life it can be harmful if taken to extremes. It's unfortunate that it has been so scapegoated in this country. Thanks Hearst!

Echodork 11-15-2004 12:33 AM

Because smoking pot is something I would do if I had nothing else to do. Sitting around my basement, nothing on TV, nobody's home, ain't got shit to do... yeah, sure, light a joint. But my life just isn't boring enough. I don't need to smoke weed to relax, I don't find it particularly fun to try to get stuff done while I'm stoned off my horse, and it's a more expensive habit than just about anything else I do.

Soo... there's a few reasons.

antisuck 11-15-2004 01:56 AM

I did for years, and I think in some regards I am the worse for it.

The few times I smoked in recent years I tended to withdraw and ruminate on problems and get generally paranoid and stressed out. I'm not sure what changed.

I have a tendency to lack motivation in the first place, and smoking sucked any remaining desire to do anything right out of me.

Also, it was never a social thing for me (vegging under headphones or watching TV); now that I have a family I don't often have time like that for myself.

Stick 11-15-2004 03:18 AM

Over the last 3 decades I've smoked pounds of the shit. I stopped 4 years ago when I realised I had nothing after working for 24 years. Since then I've bought a house, a new car and a Harley. The brain cells have regrouped and the paranoia and pyscotic behaviour have ceased. I have a life! What better reason to not smoke anymore?

isis 11-15-2004 03:58 AM

For argument's sake, I don't think pot and alcohol should even be classified in the same substance category. They work in different ways, and do different things to people.

Alcoholism is nothing like being addicted to drugs, the effects of alcohol are significantly different than of pot.

I personally smoke pot, and I do it to relax and loosen up a bit. Maybe I'm a bit stiff, but I like to be able to be more open to people and I find that pot allows me to relax and have a good time.

Daoust 11-15-2004 04:20 AM

I haven't smoked in over 6 years, but I won't lie to you - I loved getting high on that stuff. I think a pot high is 100x better than getting drunk. I think I'd have a hard time turning down a joint now if it was offered to me, but chances are good that I would, because...
1. I did stop smoking for a reason. I grew out of that lifestyle.
2. I'm a family man, wife and kid, and that's too important to me to let drugs get in the way.
3. I have no contacts to get it, and even if I did, I have no $ to buy it.
4. God and pot don't mix, and I"m into God.

Also, I love the smell of pot. It's so unique. I don't know why so many people dislike it.

joeyaz 11-15-2004 04:20 AM

-I've never really enjoyed myself the few times I've tried it I tend to get to really paranoid.

-Random drug test at work, too much risk I'd get worried that I'd be the one to get screened.

MikeyChalupa 11-15-2004 04:20 AM

I'm in the military. It's illegal. Doing it just once means you're kicked out.

No thanks.

-Mikey

Lockjaw 11-15-2004 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suave
Lockjaw: sleep deprivation is worse and takes longer to rectify than being high. Longest I was ever stoned from weed was a few hours (and that's only because I ate it), whereas it can take weeks to fix a lack of sleep for 26 straight hours.

But you don't have to pay any money to stay up a long time and if you have any sort of normal sleeping habit you can be right as rain in a single day.

Lockjaw 11-15-2004 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daoust
Also, I love the smell of pot. It's so unique. I don't know why so many people dislike it.

Because it smells like a skunk sprayed you and you pissed your pants and stewed in it for 3 days in 100 degree weather. I shared a cubicle at my old job with a guy that smoked out all day everyday...stinkiest bastard I ever worked with.

animosity 11-15-2004 05:39 AM

I am in school and need my memory/brain cells.

I am too hungry, laid back and tired as it is. The last thing I need is something to highten that.

avhg1 11-15-2004 05:47 AM

I'd don't smoke because I become a lazy ass, good for nothing pothead. I lose all motivation to do anything but eat. With a big family, school and career, I have no time to be lazy. While I was in high school, I smoked up, but now that I have other people depending on me, I can't.

kel 11-15-2004 05:48 AM

Because society is run by ignorant cow turds who won't let me.

Although I agree with animosity. I still believe it should be my choice.

Redlemon 11-15-2004 06:34 AM

I'm very happy with my life. It is possible that if I used pot (or any other drug), I'd prefer being high, and therefore like the way my life is less. I see no reason to go there.

Secondary reasons: I don't want to be dependent on something that is illegal. I hate smoke in any form.

rfra3645 11-15-2004 06:48 AM

wow pot...

well pot is something i did evreyday for a long time.. i learned alott of things while high that i retained.. althought that amases me.. i do think it is possible to learn while stoned and depending on id say the person it is posible to retain it.. i quit becasue my wife didnt want me getting in trouble locked up and leaving her and my kids at the time kid. i miss it.. i miss the idea of partying. i dont drink dont like to drink. i think that people who say drinking and pot rnt in the same catagory are techiclly right but really in reality they are 1 in the same.. both change your state of mind. both have the abilty to make you think irationally. both have anonymoys meetings.. both can be expensive. on that note id would say evreyone has 1 "vice" drink, smoke, gamble, sex, shop, work, or use drugs of 1 sort or another. lets look at rush... he was addicted to oxys for goodness sakes.. yes i can say everybody has a vice . i think evreyone should have the right to choose what they do. who is the "man" who should decide if smoking a bowl is bad? or ey lets go pick up a couple cases of beer. anyone who says drinking isnt bad when done evreyday wether once or twice or 6 pack or whatever really needs to re evaluate thiere ideals. i see no diffrence in drinking a 6 a night or smoking a joint or 2 a night. i dont think it should be illeagl. i doubt anyone could change my mind on this. why smoke pot. why smoke cigaretts why drink beer why do shots of curevo ?? i cant figure out any of theese things.. or can i......


oh yes it all becomes clear.. we do things that arnt natural for the high whatever it is.

Glory's Sun 11-15-2004 06:52 AM

I'm far from being part of any anti-drug campaign, but I don't smoke pot because I don't like the type of high I get. I smoked it a few times and it wasn't all that great. The first 2 times were pretty good..but after that.. and I we had the good shit, it just gave me headaches. I found better drugs to use.. (please spare the flame as it is purely recreational and yes I believe that recreational use of *some* drugs can be a good thing.)

Now on to what some people have mentioned. I really don't think one can truly take an anit-drug stance unless he/she is against alcohol as well. Let's face it, alcohol does some weird shit to a person mentally. It does alot of physical abuse as well. Not to mention that it kills alot more people than pot does. I don't have any stats but I'd be willing to bet that alcohol kills more people than all drugs combined. (just guessing there)

So why don't I smoke pot?? Because it's just not the drug for me

Nancy 11-15-2004 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bal8664
I'd liek to see a list of reasons TO smoke pot. I can't come up with any good ones myself.

alrighty!

-scientists at the Institution of Neurology at the University College in London has found out (via animal tests) that canabis can make the severe convulsive fits of sclerosis go away after within one minute after taking it.

-people with AIDS use canabis to lower their sickness

-chronically ill people use it as an alternative to other pain-stilling medicine

Ironically alcohol is just as injurious to health as canabis yet you don't hear anyone argumenting against alhohol the same way as they do about canabis :lol:

Stug 11-15-2004 07:28 AM

I originally bought cannabis back at College, to try it with a mate. He posted half of his back to his Mum, who was (and still is) a Multiple Sclerosis sufferer. She claimed it helped to ease her symptoms (especially her muscle spasms - Nancy), but even if getting high just took her away from her immediate situation then it's a good thing right? Later on I also scored for my Dad who wanted to re-live his 'missed out on' hippy years, but he developed a cough and got bored of it pretty quickly.

Personally, I smoke it now and then. It's best when I'm relaxing at home (with a beer) and a good computer game/book or film. I find I just get lost in the moment that little bit more, I know I'm probably pretty 'goofy' at this time so I don't inflict myself on others.

The number one honest reason why I wouldn't smoke it again..? Well apart from the obvious health implications and lack of sense of smell that come with smoking.
I find that if I smoke too much over a period of time it robs me of creativity - a really useful prerequisite for a Graphic Designer like me!

If you enjoy smoking/drinking then do it, it's your life to live but everything in moderation means you may be around to enjoy it that little bit longer...

11-15-2004 07:41 AM

Wow Stompy, I totally relate to your experience there - I don't touch the stuff at all now (for many of the reasons suggested here), but used to LOVE the focused concentration you get when you really 'get into' something. If there was something I could buy legally that had the same effect, I'd be onto it instantly. Pot gives you that, but with a whole host of other unwanted side effects that I'm just not interested in.

the_marq 11-15-2004 07:54 AM

it makes me jumpy and paranoid...FUCK, who said that!!?? :eek:

roachboy 11-15-2004 07:59 AM

pot tweaks my hearing, so i kinda like it.
pot tweaks my short term memory in the opposite direction, so i kinda dont.

Stug 11-15-2004 08:00 AM

Oh yeah, and another thing! People who insinuate that pot smoking effects your short term... uhhhh... ummmm.... short term.... uhhh...

the thing about the last thing...

ummm... hmmm....

asaris 11-15-2004 08:40 AM

I don't enjoy the buzz, and the taste isn't particularly good.

superiorrain 11-15-2004 08:47 AM

I don't smoke because people who smoke it lose IQ points faster than you can gain them. I have some friends who are all clever don't get me wrong, their all studying but you can see over the years instead of them becoming wiser they seem to get dumber or less interested. The thinking process slow down to.

My theory is as us guys carry on smoking pot the world will be taken over by women. Our rule is over and now its time for women to take over the top spots. Perhaps this isn't a bad idea, i long for the day for a women to sit in the whitehouse as head of the USA.

boredom 11-15-2004 08:57 AM

its easier to manipulate someone on MJ when your not on MJ at the same time.

OFKU0 11-15-2004 09:00 AM

I've smoked pot for 25 years on a recreational basis (sometimes heavier than other times) and believe that the affects are as individual as anything else. Some people eat fast food and get obese. Some eat it and don't. Some people smoke cigs their entire life without lung cancer yet others never smoke a day in their life and get lung cancer. Some people get stupid when they smoke pot (over prolonged time periods), some don't.

Everyone has an opinion as to what other people do with their time and that's fine. Some people think smoking pot is stupid. Others think that going on forums like this is stupid. Horses for courses. Everyone is different with said opinions.

I like what Stompy said though. Music is my living, has been for over 20 years and the creative avenues that pop up when I smoke are interesting to say the least. For me anyways it compliments an already creative mind.

I'm not advocating drug use ( or any other self afflictions) because I don't care what people choose to put in their bodies, be it crap food, no food, alcohol, drugs, whatever. It's not for me to judge. I'll tell you one thing though, one of the best things I ever did as a teenager was drop acid about 10- 12 times. I don't think my creativeness would have even been as close to what it is if a mind altering drug didn't open my mind. The first hit of acid I took at 16 years old total changed the way I thought of things from that day on. But that's just me. I did it knowing the potential outcome so I looked forward to it, rather than just as an excuse to get wasted. Same with pot. I don't and have never done it to get hammered but rather to explore the potentials it offers.

Has pot and alcohol killed some brain cells? I'm sure it has. Does it bother me? No. I do what I do, when I want to do it, regardless as to whatever social stigmas are the rage of the moment. It's purely a random fancy if you will. It couldn't be that damaging for me since I'm almost 40 and have been mortgage free for 5 years in a rather affluent community. Go figure.

f6twister 11-15-2004 09:27 AM

#1 Reason = my son. It will be easier to keep him off of it if I can tell him honestly that I never needed it in my life

#2 Reason = my job. I work with cops. I don't think that needs explaining.

#3 Reason = why?. I can function in life just fine without the effects of any drugs. Somedays I'm happy, some days I'm not. That is life. That makes me who I am. Why change?

tropple 11-15-2004 09:29 AM

My only reason is liability for urinalysis.

Otherwise, I'd love to. I smoked for many years.

grendel 11-15-2004 09:30 AM

i have no interest in smoking pot, so i guess that's why.

Averett 11-15-2004 09:33 AM

I've never been around it much. A handful of times. Was I offered some? Sure. Why did I turn it down? Well, at the time I was 24, and at that point why should I bother? Although now I'm a bit curious and thinking I should have tried.

A friend of mine is pretty much a pot head (though he'll deny that word), and he's one of the most intelligent, goal orientated people I know.

roachboy 11-15-2004 09:58 AM

just cruised back through here on my way out...after reading ofkuo's post, i figured i should mention that i am a musician as well. pot tweaks how i hear our sets in particular. but i do not smoke when i play--playing requires too much emptiness and weed keeps little waves coursing around.

playing electric is different--i find it is easier to forget the mediations in the sound then.

quadro2000 11-15-2004 10:49 AM

I don't do any drugs, and I very very rarely drink. I like being fully aware and in control over all my senses. I find I'm very powerful when I'm in control, and I don't like it when that's taken away from me.

If I were to try and drug, pot would be the one. I think it's the least harmful out of any of them, certainly less harmful than alcohol, and the people I know who smoke it really enjoy it.

I was at a concert in 1996, one of the best concerts I've been to. I was really diggin' it. The guy next to me offered his joint. I took it, held it for a sec, and then gave it back. I decided the moment was so awesome that there wasn't a drug in the world that could ever make it better. That's how I feel about many experiences in life. I don't need anything to make me happier than I already am.

In college, what I really didn't like about pot was that it was "the great divider." We'd have a big party at our house, everybody would hang out, then the people who wanted to smoke would go downstairs to a corner, or go to a separate room and close the door, and then that was it for the big group social aspect. Suddenly there were two groups, and most times they never converged again afterwards. I hated that.

My brother smokes a lot of pot. I don't know what his frequency is now, but I know that before he left for college it was everyday. When he first started, he told me it took away a lot of his depression and made him feel better. I haven't asked him again specifically about it, but from talking to him, it seems like now his stoned state is his normal state, and so...now what is he going to do to ease any pain he's feeling in the stoned state? That's what worries me.

Coppertop 11-15-2004 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daoust
4. God and pot don't mix, and I"m into God.

Out of curiosity what makes you say this?

chance 11-15-2004 12:16 PM

I got hooked on it for 3 years. It did a lot of damage and I can't get a lot of things I loved back. It even caused "mania" and I had to get on special drugs to stop the affect of the pot. It Screwed me up pretty bad. :hmm:

MSD 11-15-2004 12:29 PM

I'm having a hard enough time paying for school with the federal funding that I'd lose if I got busted for pot.

Pot conviction = instant denial of application for concealed carry permit

The one time I tried it, I didn't like it.

Grondar 11-15-2004 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nancy

Ironically alcohol is just as injurious to health as canabis yet you don't hear anyone argumenting against alhohol the same way as they do about canabis :lol:

I consider alcohol to be worse than pot, yet ironically it's legal, and pot isn't.

I haven't touched either, ever, but when I think of which is more hazardous to the user, alcohol comes to mind before pot does.

Health wise though, I still think pot is worse for you. Inhaling smoke and chemicals into the lungs just seems worse to me than drinking something, because at least drinking is natural and something the body needs, and is used to.

Alcohol seems to be dangerous through its affects on the user, while pot seems to be more dangerous from a health standpoint.

Both are bad news and a waste though, IMO.

Captain Nemo 11-15-2004 01:02 PM

OFKU0, I agree with you, the affects of pot are different by person. I love the people who get on here and say you lose IQ points. Um, sure....

I am 40 years old, a CPA (probably why I smoke pot), I am in charge of all legal and regulatory matters for my company, I have my Master's degree, and I have worked in the professional world for 17 years. My wife, also a CPA and a member of the professional community, also smokes. Do we sit around at night and fire a bong up until we're too stupid too talk? Of course not. Our intake pretty much consists of a sole hit from a dugout. It is a nice way to ease the stress out of the system.

A small amount can last us for quite a long time at that rate.

Generally saying that pot makes you stupid is in itself a stupid comment. That would be like comparing my having a belgian ale in the evening, with the guy who goes to the party store so he can consume a case of Miller Lite.

Suave 11-15-2004 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockjaw
But you don't have to pay any money to stay up a long time and if you have any sort of normal sleeping habit you can be right as rain in a single day.

Either that or you just get accustomed to living on less sleep, which isn't healthy either. I've read a decent amount on sleep deprivation, and on average it takes 1-2 weeks to recover from a single day's lost sleep from the journal articles I read.

I'll admit it doesn't cost money though, but when it's only 5-10 bucks for a smokable amount of weed, it's not a big deal for me anyways. :P I'm more turned off by the lung effects.

Jimellow 11-15-2004 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Nemo
Generally saying that pot makes you stupid is in itself a stupid comment. That would be like comparing my having a belgian ale in the evening, with the guy who goes to the party store so he can consume a case of Miller Lite.

This is a good point, and I agree.

There is a big difference between using a substance (any substance) in moderation and excess.

Using a lot of things in excess will probably make you stupid over time. Pot might be one of them, eating paint chips another, but if smoked moderately and intellegently, I tend to think that your brain cells will be fine.

Fremen 11-15-2004 01:32 PM

You smoke it, right?
I hurt my lungs enough while I was smoking.
I dont need any more smoke in my lungs, except maybe for barbeque smoke. ;)

Stompy 11-15-2004 01:34 PM

That's one thing people need to keep in mind: if used in moderation, it's fine. If used in excess, it has the potential to become a problem.

Most of us have been drunk. That's a good example of misusing alcohol. Having a few beers to get a nice relaxing buzz would be reasonable use.

Marijuana doesn't make you stupid. You make you stupid. Do you have the self control to use in moderation, or not? It's actually the least addictive when compared to alcohol and cigarettes. It COULD become psychologically addictive, but like someone else said, so can other things like video games.

If someone knows a person who "became stupid", chances are that person was doomed to begin with. Almost everyone I personally know who smokes it is smart, has a career, a family, and is on the right path in life. I can only recall exactly TWO people I've ever known that were bums who did nothing with their life, and I know for a fact that they were like that before they got into weed.

If you get drunk every day, will you not end up equally, if not more, stupid?

As for cost... hah. $10 for a dimebag vs. $10-15 on a 12 pack. Personally, it takes me 6 beers to even catch a nice buzz. That sucks. A dimebag.. shit, that'd last me 3 weeks. That and people have no problems whatsoever with going to McDonald's a few times a week and dropping $4 on a super-sized meal chock full of salt and grease - as if that's good for you.

The only extreme side effect it has going for it is smoke in the lungs, but that's what water bongs are for ;)

People need to be a bit more open minded :thumbsup:

splck 11-15-2004 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
I'm having a hard enough time paying for school with the federal funding that I'd lose if I got busted for pot.

That's rediculous, your government sure has you guys buy the balls man. I know some here will think that this rule is ok, but I think it's over the top.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
Pot conviction = instant denial of application for concealed carry permit

Not applicable in my society, and I like it that way. ;)

Pragma 11-15-2004 06:18 PM

See, to me, this question is slightly skewed. I don't smoke pot because I don't want to. That is the final reason.

My question to you:
If you do smoke marijuana, please provide the number one reason you do. Thank you

krwlz 11-15-2004 06:52 PM

Just to point out... I have an uncle who I went on vacation with, and smoked before every meal with (yea, he's like 56, and I'm like 19, so what ;)). The guy makes well over 6 figures a year. He's been smoking for years, although not heavily during the major parts of his career. He has retired twice, with more money rolling in then he could spend, and another company called him while he was retired, asking him to come work for them. He named a ridiculous price, thinking that he enjoyed retirement. They said "When do you want to start?" Because he is that good at what he does.

Since when did pot affect my ability to make money? Why am I doing better in Engineering school than most of my non-smoking friends?

Just wanted to point that out.

On that note, for the people who do not smoke pot, I respect your decision, and am glad that you live by your values, and not what someone else tells you. Just dont criticize me.

Suave 11-15-2004 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pragma
See, to me, this question is slightly skewed. I don't smoke pot because I don't want to. That is the final reason.

My question to you:
If you do smoke marijuana, please provide the number one reason you do. Thank you

It's no more skewed than "what is the reason you smoke pot?"

My reason for smoking: I want to.

If you would like me to elaborate, I shall once you decide to expand your answer.

joemc91 11-15-2004 08:30 PM

I don't smoke it at all since I'm a pilot. Passengers and the FAA don't like it when their pilot smokes up, although I would have liked to try it. I do drink a bit and can honestly say that compared to my friends when they are high, the majority of drunks are worse.

Lockjaw 11-15-2004 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suave
Either that or you just get accustomed to living on less sleep, which isn't healthy either. I've read a decent amount on sleep deprivation, and on average it takes 1-2 weeks to recover from a single day's lost sleep from the journal articles I read.

I'll admit it doesn't cost money though, but when it's only 5-10 bucks for a smokable amount of weed, it's not a big deal for me anyways. :P I'm more turned off by the lung effects.

Well before folks start thinking that I intentionally stay awake for days at a time to get a high. I don't. Just saying if you want to get all loopy and crap stay awake. It's pretty fun if you don't have to do anything important later on. But I guess I'm blessed I don't need stuff to make me silly and to loosen up. God made me perpetually high. :)

Lockjaw 11-15-2004 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splck
That's rediculous, your government sure has you guys buy the balls man. I know some here will think that this rule is ok, but I think it's over the top.


Not applicable in my society, and I like it that way. ;)

It's not really over the top considering how contentous that money is. Why is it fair to give somebody money that willfully broke a federal law over somebody else who doesn't? Whether you think it should be legalized or not isn't really pertinent it's a matter of are you going to play by the rules to get the money and if not...shove off. Seriously though if you can't forego something just for a few years to get a greatly reduced or free education you likely have a problem you need to address in the first place. Kind of like the idiot pro atheletes who can't put down the weed for half a year in order to get paid a few million bucks to play a game.

Suave 11-15-2004 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Well before folks start thinking that I intentionally stay awake for days at a time to get a high. I don't. Just saying if you want to get all loopy and crap stay awake. It's pretty fun if you don't have to do anything important later on. But I guess I'm blessed I don't need stuff to make me silly and to loosen up. God made me perpetually high. :)

I believe that you actually only sleep 15 hours a week in order to maintain your "perpetual high", you filthy sleep-deprivation addict. :D

qweds 11-15-2004 09:22 PM

thx
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bingle
Signature:

I fully respect any individuals choice to not partake of any substance, especially given the current legal status of marijuana in the US. The average sentence of non-violent drug offenders is longer than the average sentence for murder! However, I think it is always a good idea to fully understand the real facts behind these things, and not just the appallingly deceptive DARE party line. I've done some research on drug legalization policy, and the misinformation given out in the name of education is scary. Lumping marijuana in with heroin or crack, and leaving out discussions of alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine is bizarre.

A good book to read if you're really interested in understanding the physical and psychological impact of various legal and illegal drugs is "Buzzed" - look for it on Amazon, or your favorite local bookseller.

Bingle

thank you Bingle

tim(mah)

qweds 11-15-2004 09:24 PM

wait, i guess I should add to that. I'm an honor student at a top tier liberal arts college with a double majour in russian and philosophy. All of the most interesting people I know smoke.

doesn't mean it's good
just a thought

tim(mah)

VitaminH 11-15-2004 09:31 PM

I try to keep my mind a focused tool.

Oh, and I'm more than paranoid enough already. ;)

KellyC 11-15-2004 10:09 PM

I don't want to end up like my friend, who got addicted and pissed away a huge chunk of his FINANCIAL AIDS and SCHOLARSHIP money on pot and booze (the same kid I whined about last year in case any one remembered, he actually graduated from HS but now have to settle for a community college instead of a university). I hang out with him less now because of that. I'm not saying that pot gets a person addicted, but a person is proned to addiction. I'm not taking any chances so of all the times I've been offered pot, I politely declined. Although, this summer, I finally smoked it while I was in Canada with some friends. I didn't the effect, how I was so damn slow to react to anything, my balance was lost and I was sleepy at the time. All in all, some shitty experience with pot that I am glad to never try again.

About smoking pot as a way to have some "fun" and meeting new people. Personally, if I have to resort to pot have some fun and meet new people, then I need to reevaluate myself on what kind of a person I am to draw such drastic measures. I'd pitty myself.

Suave 11-15-2004 10:48 PM

How do you meet people of similar interests? Why, you go out and share that interest with them. Calling smoking weed a "drastic measure" makes as much sense as saying that joining a sports league to meet people is a "drastic measure". Same thing goes for doing it for fun. Why the fuck do you care how people have fun or meet people? It's exactly the same as any other recreational activity in the respects of fun and people meeting.

Besides, pity is a word and concept that should be stricken from the English language; it's an awful word and an awful concept. Worse than hate.

While I'm at it, I'm going to throw some anti-pot "drugs are for sad people" logic at sex. I pity people who need sex to have a good time. They're co-dependent on others to feel complete about themselves, and can't function normally without the mind-altering rush of hormones and nervous system stimuli that come with sexual stimulation and orgasm. Seriously, how pitiful can you get when you can't even feel good without being sexually involved with someone?

I can do another activity if that's not enough to show you how ludicrous that kind of attitude is.

roboshark 11-15-2004 11:01 PM

Same reason as why I don't eat popcorn, or chocolate-glazed donuts or stir-fried pig's brains with a side order of cauliflower: I don't like it.

monkeysugar 11-15-2004 11:44 PM

Tried it, didn't like it, decided it's not something I want to do.

tehblaed 11-15-2004 11:46 PM

Let's just say that I am a musician and pot is the best thing that has ever happened to me in terms of my appreciation for music and my ability to write.

KellyC 11-16-2004 12:30 AM

Suave

Key word: Personally, which is why I only only about myself and not other people. Different strokes for different folks. I think I can have fun without getting high, that's all. :thumbsup:

cybersharp 11-16-2004 12:46 AM

Reasons i dont and never will smoke pot.
1. I see it as mentaly as well as physicaly degrading.
2. I prefer to remain completly in control of myself.
3. To me its veiwed as a waste of time as well as money.
4. Alot of people who do smoke pot are looked down upon in general socail structure of america. (I couldnt stand that.)
5.All in all i think smoking in general is pretty lame. ;)


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