Airport X-ray sees through clothes
 

Technology....aint it GREAT! :D

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/TRAVEL/1...story.xray.jpg


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I'm more concerned at the amount of x-rays I am going to absorb if I am a frequent flyer...

Definately must look into lead lined boxers...

I wonder how long it will be before x-ray porn sites start popping up.

I'd like to see the xray system used in Total Recall. That'd be sweet.

This gets us back to the argument about giving up your personal civil liberties vs. having more safety guidelines. I am all for flying in a safer environment. If this x-ray machine is used more readily and volunteering for it is no longer an option, if you don't like it, don't fly.

I wouldn't have a problem using it. If the worst thing it does is gives the screeners an outline of my package, who cares? At least my ID can't be stolen using a picture like that. When you think about all the info we have to give the government already, what more will this type of screening process do?

Damn.

I can't wear women's panties when I fly anymore.

if they can xray my bags, then why not xray my n00tz. either way, when you fly you're giving up certain liberties. it's the price we pay.

Well according to the Internet, everyone wants to be photographed nude anyway, this is just speeding up the process of getting hot MILF's and Teen Sluts to the masses.

If the machine does it's job and is physically safe for people to pass through, they I totally accept it.
If you're too scared to be outlined, take a boat.

It sure beats being stip searched. I will have to invest in those lead lined boxers though. hmm.... new company? lead lined boxer co. -LLB

As long as they inform people of exactly what screening procedures will be used before they pay, it's perfectly acceptable for a private company to do this.

It seems to me to be the next logical step in our terror stricken world. Unsubstantiated paranoia of the unknown will lead us to much deeper and more calculated invasions of privacy in the near future.
Anyone know what the mark of the beast is? We're closer than ever.
I predict that in our lifetime the very definition of privacy will change. Privacy does not even mean today what it meant 10-20 years ago. I sometimes think the last line of personal privacy is at the doorsteps of our homes, and that last line has been encroached more than once in recent years. The government will have full access to every mundane action of our day to day lives in a short time, and there will be nothing we can do or say to fight it, because the government will claim to be acting in our best interest, for the 'good of mankind', for the protection of mankind, for to fight against our terrorist enemies...
should this be in the tilted paranoia thread?

I've decided I could live with this. I seem to recall there was a kind of "hall" people could walk down while being scanned like this. Given that it would speed up the security screening, and that people seem to want to be "safe", it seems like a "win".

One amusing bit I found was the one where they say
like there's no such thing as homosexuals. IMHO, it doesn't matter who sees the image. I'd really like to see the faces on some orthodox Muslims when they encounter this, though. :D

Some of us do not have the option of not flying. I cannot drive to Boston tomorrow if my Boss asks.

Using a slippery slope argument... (which can be true sometimes) what happens when our communication is monitored in the sake of nation "security". Will I be able to voice my opinions as freely?

/devils advocate

Yeah...you can. The point is that it x-rays through your clothes...panties, and all.

I don't have any inherent problem with it...but I do predict that it's only a matter of time before the technolgy is abused. For example; low salaried x-ray machine operator is aproached by unscrupulous porn site operator, to take pictures of the x-ray images, as unsuspecting people pass through.

Whatever.

I can still wear my belt...and I could kill you with it. I can still carry a metal pen. It could be a deadly weapon too. Or it could look like a pen, and be a spike. Or I could carry acid onto the plane in a coke bottle...or bring a couple of bottles - one Clorox and one Ammonia. Mix 'em up at 30,000 feet. Or I could carry a knife inside my laptop. Or a bazooka in my ass...wait. No, that one won't work.

For the benefit of John Ashcroft's buddies who are monitoring our communications - I WOULD NOT ACTUALLY DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS I JUST MENTIONED.

My point is that technology alone can't keep us safe.

I'm with clavus,

the most dangerous weapon on a airplane is the brain in the bad guy's head.

I guess they'll need to build an x-ray capable of detecting evil thoughts. :rolleyes:

two things that I thought about have already been voiced here..
1) Just how much radiation will I be exposing myself to if I fly often?
2) Anything can be made into a weapon; it depends on the person holding/using it.

but is there an option to save them? if so how many can you save in a day.. just think of all the people that pass though.. i wouldnt mind a bit.. but my kids.. man id be going to jail cuz i had to fuck up an attendant

As long as there's an opition to decline such screenings I'll always opt-out. There's always around security and as based upon what I've seen already, this test won't make us any more secure so why should I deal with the inconvience?

what 1 outta 5 can get on a plane with weapons and explosives still? sorry sir you cant bring on the plane your nail clippers. yet cell phones are save.. crap you can pack a cell phone with just enough plastique to blow a nice size hole in the side.. just a foot wide hole is enough to down a plane when they dont expect it. weird

Way to kill my joke Bill.

I like the idea, but is our airport security going to know how to use it? We federalize them, and they still don't know what they are doing...

I love the fact that the terrorists who have tried to "bankrupt America", et al have simply driven new forms of commerce, new technologies, and new cottage industries into existance. The very act of being a terrorist is contributing to capitalist progress. How ironic...

Necessity truly is the mother of invention! If a need is exposed then before long somewhere out there someone will develop a product or service to fill that need and then someone else will find a way to do that better than the first.

This technology has been around for awhile; I remember reading about it years before 9/11 in either Popular Science or Popular Mechanics. Many privacy advocates fear that this form of technology would reveal more than just what people are carrying; the possibility for embaressment occurs when people walk through with penile enhancements or other forms of surgery. How would a TSA grunt react to a woman with bolts in her neck?

I think this would be a good supplementary form of security. Individuals would have the option to use this security measure (which seems faster) with the understanding that they really wouldn't have anything to hide, and those who were uncomfortable with it would be allowed to use traditional means. Requiring airports to have noninvasive forms of security would be important, as I really don't like the idea of forcing people to be naked to get on a plane.

No more smuggling Pot for some of you. :D

Here's what a quick Google returned on exposure, "For example, in screening devices using backscatter x-ray, exposures are approximately 0.003 millirem (0.00003 mSv) per individual (Smith, 1995). This radiation level is so low that a passenger would have to go through the screening portal approximately 1,000 times to receive the same radiation dose as would be received from cosmic ray exposure at high altitude during one transcontinental flight from New York to Los Angeles. ".