JustDisGuy

It's a bullshit law because the government is forcing law abiding citizens to register their ownership of "long guns" or rifles. For the most part around here if you have a rifle, it's to go get some food. We've had to register hand guns and be members of shooting clubs and get transport permits to take our hand guns to the range for decades already. We've also had to go through a process of police checks and government issued identification requirements for the procurement of firearms for decades. The only thing new about all of this is that now the government will know where all the firearms are that people are willing to admit they have.

While the registration of firearms will tell the police (if they can search the registry, and if they do) whether there might be firearms in the residence of a law abiding citizen, police officers are not normally being called to attend the homes of law abiding citizens - instead they tend to be dealing with criminals. Criminals of course are not registering their firearms. In fact, many many formerly law abiding citizens are also not registering their firearms, and thus being forced into the role of criminal by the state. They are not willing to part with their security in the interest of conforming to what they also see as a bullshit law.

The only thing this law does for Canada is provide a few people with government jobs, and provide a list for the zealots who eventually get elected that they can reference when they come to disarm the public. Oh, there is one other thing - the law provides for the search of any place (residence, business or otherwise) where the police suspect there may be firearms, without a warrant.

And that is why it's a bullshit law.

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spindles, guns tame the wild beast and stop it in its tracks - the number of legs is unimportant.

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spindles

I think it is a terrible thing that society in some parts of the world end up like this.

I feel (at least where I live) that the chance of anyone breaking into my house is quite low, and that the need for me to defend myself/my family just not require much more than a golf club/baseball bat (both which I do have handy). During daytime, my house is wide open (it lets the cats come and go as they please), and we don't even lock the doors until we are ready to go to bed.

Further, I have never felt threatened on my way home (regardless of what wee hour of the evening/morning it is).

Maybe I'm naive, but I just don't understand the American fascination with being able to take the law into your own hands. Our lack of sizable dangerous animals (bears, wolves etc.) means that away from the city I also do not really fear for my safety.

I wonder whether the right to bear arms that Americans have (and don't seem to want to relinquish) is actually counter productive to feeling safe.

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whocarz

Careful... you're letting your ignorance show! (You could buy an Uzi legally before the AWB sunset!)

Anyway, I own two Norinco made rifles, an SKS and a MAK-90. The MAK-90 has been heavily modified, and the only way you can tell it is one is by the stamp on the side.

spindles, I use to be in a predominately Australian SOF2 clan, and one of the guys had a gang of six thugs break into his house. He managed to kill one and fend off the others with a katana style sword. Just goes to show you that you are never 100% safe, no matter where you live or what laws are on the books.

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jwoody

I have a question. In America, are guns / gunshops advertised on TV and radio?

Lockjaw

Usually no. I mean you might see an occasional hunting supply store advertisement in the paper and the cable tv shows that focus on hunting and shooting have their share of specialized advertisements but as a whole it's not something greatly advertised.

In response to Spindles. I don't think the guns are the problem as far as feeling safe. We have a crime problem pure and simple and that wouldn't go away if we just did away with the guns. Also considering in America the dollar rules and if you have the money you can get it, guns wouldn't go away at least as far as the criminal element is concerned. I don't think the average American feels any more unsafe in their homes or walking down the street at night than the average Aussie or Brit. However I think the average person in America that WOULD pack a gun would be willing to just bend over and take getting shafted by a crook. Honestly if I was a criminal I wouldn't be a bit afraid of a guy with a bat, or a club even if I DIDN'T have a gun.

DelayedReaction

Although I can't own a firearm on campus, when I graduate and move off I intend to get a shotgun for home defense and a handgun for target practice. Eventually I would like to move to a state where I could get a concealed carry license.

For me it's a question of preparation. I'm 6'10" and not a likely target of robbery or rape, and the chances of a break-in are slim. But spending the time and effort to learn to properly use firearms is still beneficial. First of all, firing guns is fun. Personally that's enough of a reason for me, particulalry since I'm a law abiding citizen who hasn't shown any reason why I shouldn't be allowed to own a gun. Secondly, putting the time and effort into properly training yourself ensures that, on the off chance that there IS a situation that requires you to use your weapon, you have the skills and background knowledge necessary to come out alive and with your family intact.

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benny2305

In Germany it's not allowed to carry guns. Only people who have to carry one because of their job, like policemen or bodyguards, have the right to (with a special permission).

Private people can only receive this permission with a lot of good reasons!

So, I don't carry a gun. I don't even own one, but I would like to.

cj22009

I have guns but don't carry one on me all the time. I do have a consealed weapons permit I only carry it when im going some were there is a chance of getting muged or attacked.

Dizzet

Damn here in denmark its most unlikly that you can own a gun...

jwoody

Where would that be then?

Wherever I'm going, being mugged or attacked doesn't even cross my mind as I leave the house, so the thought of 'should-I-take-my-gun' is completely alien to me.

kel

To those who think violent crime isn't a problem in your country? Are you quite sure? Do you actually know that for a fact? Have you ever checked?

Try it, maybe you'll be surprised. Go see how your government thinks it's violent crime rate compares to other countries. You might be surprised what a little research will dig up.

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cj22009

That would be in down town Atlanta jwoody I don't carry it all the time when I go down there. My work requires me to go to bad neighbors hoods I don't feel comfortable in.

splck

I own several that get used for hunting and plinking.

I've never felt a need to carry one around with me for my personal protection and quite happy about that. It's too bad some people live with enough fear in their lives that they feel they need to be armed while out and about. I feel sorry for them that they can't/don't feel safe in their own comunities.

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Eight

Do I have a gun? Nope, it is illegal over here to carries guns (well you can with various different licenses but to get them its a pain).

Would I carry one if I could. To right!

jwoody

My job requires that I go inside some of the worst homes in the worst neighbourhoods in North-East England. I've never been threatened once though (mainly because I'm usually giving the tennants something for nothing).

The odds of me facing a gun are too insignificant to be of concern, I'd imagine the opposite would be true if I was doing my job in downtown Atlanta.

cj22009

Yea I can see your point there J but when I have to go into those neighbor hoods im usually disconnecting some ones phone and people don't like to have there phones turned off.

rockogre

I also live on an isolated acerage and it is the two legged variety that we worry about. Racoons and Possums rarely get drunk and want to party in my yard at 3 A.M. Never had a Possum threaten me on my own front porch but I have had it done to me by people.

Last time we needed the authorities it took over 45 minutes for a deputy to show up. (Not his fault, just a lot of distance and few deputies).

Just my $0.02

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Yes, I have guns. Although, all but my Remington .270 hunting rifle are used for historical purposes. I am a Civil War re-enactor, and a history buff in general. I own reproduction models of an 1853 Enfield .577 Rifle, an 1855 Sprigfield .58 Rifle, an 1853 Sharps .54 Carbine, and an 1860 Colt .44 Army Revolver.

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gcbrowni

And there, my friends, if the fundamental difference between the US and most other countries. In the US, the goverment has to have a good reason to deny you something. IE: Your rights are not granted to you by the goverment in te US, the givenment denies specific rights as it needs to.

Criminals don't apply for concealed firearm permits, honest people do. Study after study shows that only a miniscule number of CCW permit holders ever have their permits revoked.

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gcbrowni

Gunshops frequently advertise on Tv and radio. I'm not sure I've ever heard an ad for a specific firearm on Tv/Radio, except for a firearm related how.

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ARTelevision

Not in this county, region, or state.
I have never seen a gun shop advertise on tv or radio.
I have never seen or heard an ad for one on national media either.

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Cobalt_60

I've only seen tv commercials for outdoors sportings stores which sell firearms. I do recieve flyers in the mail from a local outdoor sporting store with their own out door range advertising firearms, pistol and rifle. But only because I purchased a pistol from them. Whoa, wait scratch that part about the commercials. I have seen a commercial for a store dealing in nothing but firearms. It was for Collectors Firearms. I've seen the commercial once or twice. I've even passed by the place a few times, just haven't stepped inside. I would love to but just don't have the cash to splurge. I'm sure if local firearm vendors had the cash they would have local commercials.

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/

ziadel

yes I carry a gun with me. And if that crackhead or whatever started bashing on my car like that, and I was trapped the same way that car was trapped, I wouldn't hesitate to put a bullet in his chest.


life sucks and some people just can't deal with it and will go after anyone who appears to have a life that sucks less :shrug:

I love a few people way too much to let something happen to them, so I carry and am willing to defend myself and most likely anyone else in need of assistance.



its better to be judged by 12 than carried by six

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stingc

I used to own an air rifle for target shooting, but I've never owned, and do not plan on owning a real gun.

I've lived my whole life in the US, and have never felt unsafe. This thread is starting to make me feel a little uneasy though. I didn't realize so many people carry guns around in this country.

ziadel

why does it make you feel uneasy? If I were you it would make me feel better. You live in a country where you are lucky enough to be able to own a firearm, you choose not to exercise that right, thats fine, just be glad theres enough of us who do exercise that right to blow away the dude who is mugging you



seriously tho, why are you so surprised, violence is in our blood, if it wasn't we'd still be subject to the king...


exercise your rights man

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billege

12 ga, bolt action, Marlin shotgun. It kills deer.
When it's not killing deer, it's locked up.

.38 S&W Revolver. My grandpa carried it when he owned his own security company in Grosse Pointe, MI, all those years ago. It's roughly 40 years old.

When it's not locked away, with it's ammuntion locked seperatly away, it kills paper targets, bottles of water, ballistic geletin, and the occasional cookie or rotting piece of fruit.

I also have a C02 powered pellet rifle w/scope, and a C02 pellet revolver that looks like a .357, more or less.

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basmoq

I cary a military tanto knive for defense, along with a 32ACP KelTec p32 as a backup or in case they have a gun as well. I wouldn't leave home without either one of them, seeing as how I've had to use the knive to scare off would be attackers before (never use a gun for this, it's over-kill and they may sue you).

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basmoq

I have a Gander Mountain and Dicks Sporting Goods here in Fort Wayne, IN that both have had radio ads out talking about hunting season and the guns they offer.

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Ultima84

Nope... no guns for me. They are banned in Australia

BlueBongo

Growing up in a family of gun toting alcoholics I had many experiences with them growing up and when I can spend the extra money will get a 9mm to carry around with me for self defense. When I was younger and visiting my family out in the desert and up in the country I carried a gun with me for multiple reasons though it only came in handy a couple times. I don't think there is anything wrong with carrying them around... though I think that there should be new measures that require people to take safety courses before purchasing guns. But that's just my opinion.

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bookerV

Wow after reading this I am so glad that I live in Canada. Guns are quite rare around here. I don't know anyone that has one, nor anyone that has ever needed one. Like someone said above, if I ever lived somewhere where I felt I NEEDED a gun to walk around, I would move...

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tropple

hehhe... Knives. What a waste of time.

Don't bring a knife to a hand maser fight.

Just kidding ;-)

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fatbob

nope don't carry a gun and in this country it is illegal as well as unnecessary. thank fuck.

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