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Old 05-17-2003, 06:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Teen who fed cat to gator could face five years in prison

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A teenage boy who fed a neighbor’s pet cat to an alligator Thursday told investigators he just wanted to see what the gator would do, Cape Coral police reported.

Andrew J. Castor, 14, of 1432 S.E. 24th Ave. was arrested on charges of felony cruelty to animals, feeding a gator and the theft of the cat.

The state attorney's office hadn't decided what charges to pursue Friday or whether Castor would be tried as an adult, said spokeswoman Chere Avery.

According to police, Castor stole the 12-year-old cat from a chair in the neighbor’s front yard Thursday afternoon, slipped it into his bookbag and took it to a canal on the 1000 block of Southeast 23rd Ave.

He admitted kicking the cat in the stomach and head, and then throwing it into the canal to feed a gator, police said.

Castor’s father said his son deeply regretted his actions.

“The boy’s never been in trouble in his life,” said Patrick Castor, 38. “And yes, he does feel bad about it. He’s been crying over it ever since last night.”

The cat’s owners said Andrew Castor led them to the canal, where they saw the dead cat still in the gator’s mouth.

“It had him by the tail,” said Cari Taich, 16, of 1511 S.E. 24th Avenue. “I started crying. I couldn’t breathe.”

Castor initially told police another boy threw the cat to the alligator, but later admitted he acted alone, police reported. Castor was also charged with giving a false statement to police.

Taich got the black-and-white cat, named Homeboy, when she was 5 years old, and she used to sleep with him every night.

Taich’s mother, Aurea Maldonado, said she still couldn’t believe the cat was dead.

“Twelve years he’s been with me,” said Maldonado, 48. “He was like family. He was like my son.”

The cruelty to animals charge is a third-degree felony, since it involves a cruel death or an excessive infliction of unnecessary pain or suffering.

If tried as an adult, Castor could get a maximum sentence of five years in jail and/or a $10,000 fine.

Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission had no immediate plans to remove the gator, according to spokesman Gary Morse.

Castor was taken to Lee County’s juvenile detention center. His status there wasn’t available Thursday afternoon, since he’s a juvenile and protected by state privacy laws.

Police spokesman Angelo Bitsis said he wasn’t aware of a similar case in Cape Coral in at least the last eight years.

Castor had never been arrested before for a felony in Cape Coral, Bitsis said. Misdemeanor arrest records are confidential because of Castor’s age.


Sorry, but I laughed when I read this.
The kid is dumb, but jail time over a cat is even more retarded than the kid.
The cats owner needs to grow up.
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Old 05-17-2003, 06:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The cat was 12 years old.. wouldn't have lived much longer anyway. All kids, especially me, do stupid things. I can't see trying him as an adult. He did break the law but let's face it, he's 14 and it was a cat not a human.

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Old 05-17-2003, 06:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Uhhh...
Killing animals for fun by yourself - I'm pretty sure this is really high on the "future severe mental problems" scale.

The woman is probably overeacting - but the kid won't go away for five years. But he should get alot of community service and some serious counciling.
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Old 05-17-2003, 06:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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He's 14. He did a stupid childish thing. Above all else he should NOT be tried as a adult.

Slap him around, let him learn from this.

yeah, I laughed as well.
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Old 05-17-2003, 06:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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no laughter here, but if he's 14, I can't see him being tried as an adult.

community service for a year.
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Old 05-17-2003, 07:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Gotta disagree with everyone. I'm not going to suggest that the cat's life is equal to a human life, but the laws are in place to prevent and hopefully discourage "a cruel death or an excessive infliction of unnecessary pain or suffering."

Being punched/kicked in the head and stomach and then fed to a gator is about as excessive and unnecessary as it gets. If some punk teenage kid did that to my cats, I'd teach the shit-turd meaning of excessive and unnecessary pain and suffering.

He's 14. He should know right from wrong. Let him pay.
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Old 05-17-2003, 07:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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ALL THAT FOR A CAT?!?!?!?!?!?

The kid should be congratulated for feeding a member of an endangered species

But seriously though, I think that the cat's owners are over reacting. I know a lot of kids who are cruel to animals. Here are some stories I've heard (and they are true):

- A cousin of mine almost fried a parrot in the microwave... He said the parrot was cold, and he was trying to warm it up
- This kid I know used to kick his dog in the nuts whenever he saw it. OUCH!
- One of my friends used to tie a string to a chick's neck, and whirl it around in the air.
- Another of my friends once flushed a chick down the toilet.
- Yet another friend tied a chick to a helium-filled ballon and let it go.

Hmmm... come to think about it, I got some pretty sick friends

They just didnt know right from wrong back then...
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Old 05-17-2003, 07:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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At 14 right from wrong has been established.

I feel sorry for this kid, he already has got a bad start in life.

Let him learn from his actions and then maybe when he is 24 he won't be running around sliting people's throats for attention.
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Old 05-17-2003, 07:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Fry the little fuck. Let's make an example of him so that others who do stupid things will think before they act. Think that's harsh. I don't.Besides, when he gets out of prison he'll have a university degree and probably a job lined up and will contribute to society. Hmmm.... not a bad way to get a free education.
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Old 05-17-2003, 08:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well, considering the limits of the legal punishment, I can't think of very many things worse that can be done to a cat so shouldn't he get the maximum punishment or at least close to it.
Hmmm... I can see why an animal's life would be worth as much as a human's, but I also can't see why it wouldn't be.
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Old 05-17-2003, 09:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm shocked by the replies so far. This isn't "boys-will-be-boys" innocent child behavior. He beat someone's cat and then fed it to an alligator. That is deranged -- not normal. Though I don't think he should be in prison for five years for it, he should be in a psych ward until he's 18, then have mandatory counseling until he's 21.

First it's someone's cat, then it will be someone's child, and I would rather not be the person to explain to the child's parents that he had a history of disturbing behavior.
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Old 05-17-2003, 09:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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There is a pattern that is clearly established from interviews with sociopaths in prison.
It includes the 'experimenting' of killing pets.
There is much more involved in this then just the killing of a cat.
He knew how much the cat meant to the neighbor.
It was a way of testing the reactions of the cat owner as much as the thrill of killing.
Trying him as adult might be a bad way to go since he would be hanging out with some of the very people he emulates.
The suggestion of a psych ward and intensive therapy might work.
If it doesn't a very close eye needs to kept on this kid.
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Old 05-17-2003, 10:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah, I agree that close evaluation should be in order, but if this is a first offense then I'd let the kid off with a very stern warning, community service, and probation, not lock him up for five years.

Who knows? Maybe this could actually be a positive event in the kid's life
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Old 05-17-2003, 10:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Christ! Now am pissed off twice over. First some little shit kills somebodies pet. Second people think its funny. I suppose some people don't understand how much some people love and cherish their pets.

BTW, it isn't uncommon for cats to live to be 20.
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Old 05-17-2003, 11:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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yeah im with you rs. i found nothing about this funny, only a horribly stupid kid who i think should be fed to an alligator. WHAT THE FUCK DID HE THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN HE PUT MEAT IN THE MOUTH OF A CARNIVORE?! america is fucked, we don't know how to raise kids. then you laugh about it! there is nothing funny here! i almost felt sorry for the kid when he was crying, but not sorry enough. fry him.
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Old 05-18-2003, 12:25 AM   #16 (permalink)
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That wasn't very nice of him. To be honest I don't care what happens to this kid, If it were my cat I'm sure I'd like to see this bitch locked up for 5 years, my cat is worth more then a strangers future, even though he's a dumbass that runs between my feet when I'm walking to the bathroom late at night.
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Old 05-18-2003, 04:15 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I don't see why the kid should be tried as an adult and locked up for 5 years. I do see why he should be watched and possibly kept in an institution for a couple years. Some of you are saying "fry him" or "I don't care what happens to the kid". The second is the biggest problem in my eyes. Obviously he hasn't been cared for alot in his life or this wouldn't have happened. When a person says fry him does that really solve anything? You kill a human for killing ONE cat. IMO, an animals life is NOT equal to a human life. I have pets and I love them deeply and I understand that it's hard to replace them. I would be terribly upset if something happened to my pets like this. I would however realize that the child needs help and sending him to prison is not the answer. If I had to choose between the life of a person whom I loved deeply or my pets that I love deeply I would choose the person. Send the kid to get some help and try to improve his life.. don't make it even worse.
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Old 05-18-2003, 06:28 AM   #18 (permalink)
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i can see the cruelty to animals thing, and im sure it was tough for the owner, but i must admit, i too laughed....prolly another one of those kids who cant tell the differance between reality and make belive...he prolly thought it would be funny as hell, and didnt think about anything other then the humor aspect
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Old 05-18-2003, 07:04 AM   #19 (permalink)
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This kind of behavior is disturbed to say the least. Chalking it up as 'kids will be kids' is burying your head in the sand and will not help this guy in the long run. redravin40 is correct about why some kids experiment with killing animals and why this shit should be taken seriously.
Lets see who's laughing in ten or twenty years after he's gone around and killed a bunch of women.
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Old 05-18-2003, 08:02 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Feed the kid to a toothless Lion.... watch kid piss himself while kitty gums him to death....
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Old 05-18-2003, 08:19 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Sorry, I've got a 16 year old dog laying next to my chair right now. God help the little shit that tries to do ANYTHING to him; let's put it this way, the kid won't have to worry about being a father!
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Old 05-18-2003, 08:54 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm shocked by the replies so far. This isn't "boys-will-be-boys" innocent child behavior. He beat someone's cat and then fed it to an alligator. That is deranged -- not normal. ...
First it's someone's cat, then it will be someone's child, and I would rather not be the person to explain to the child's parents that he had a history of disturbing behavior.
Yep. i agree 100%.

also agree with redravin40's post.

i don't understand how some of you find this all just 'amusing'.
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Old 05-18-2003, 09:27 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Even the roughest of people don't beat the living crap out of animals, its more human to kill humans, or animals for food but to kill someone's pet out of curiosity. :/
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Old 05-18-2003, 09:47 AM   #24 (permalink)
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If you even THINK of coming anywhere near my precious pussy cat, he will be feeding on your genitals for breakfast. Stay well away!

As for the whole, boys will be boys argument, I have to say that I managed to get through my childhood without feeding anyone's pet to an aligator.

And as for, "it was only a cat", some people can get very attached to their pets,especially children, and people who live alone.
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Old 05-18-2003, 10:50 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I've got to agree with the people who think this is not cool, and not in the least bit amusing. I'm sure it's hard to understand the cat's owner's reaction to the kid doing this, maybe because some of y'all don't have pets.

I don't want to go into a sob story moment here, but well, what the hell.

I got to watch someone run over my cat on purpose when I was 7 years old, right in front of my house. I wasn't laughing. A few months later, someone killed my other cat, again, on purpose. I wasn't laughing then, either. Those cats meant a lot to me, and it's alright if you guys think that cats are stupid animals that don't feel anything, but there are some of us who think differently.

I'd like to see how you'd feel if you watched YOUR cat in the middle of the street crying in pain because her entire midsection's been crushed. Yeah. Laugh at that. I'll bet the assholes that killed my cats did.
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Old 05-18-2003, 11:24 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 05-18-2003, 11:32 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I fucking hate cats.
'S OK; they probably don't care for you either.
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Old 05-18-2003, 11:35 AM   #28 (permalink)
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A disturbing about this story - the child is facing a felony offense. Kids will be kids, yada, yada, yada. So he knows how precious cats are from all of the precious time he is obviously spending w/his parents. Another thing - in SoFla the rules are very different. He may or may not face a judge.
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Old 05-18-2003, 01:21 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Re: Teen who fed cat to gator could face five years in prison

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The cats owner needs to grow up.
You've never had a long-term pet, huh?
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Old 05-18-2003, 01:23 PM   #30 (permalink)
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He's 14. He did a stupid childish thing. Above all else he should NOT be tried as a adult.

Slap him around, let him learn from this.
Agreed, but I would give him a month or whatever in juvie hall. Give him an idea of what real abuse is, and get him serious counseling. Animal abuse is a known precursor to adulthood ... issues.
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Old 05-18-2003, 01:27 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yeah, I agree that close evaluation should be in order, but if this is a first offense then I'd let the kid off with a very stern warning, community service, and probation, not lock him up for five years.
Sure, just slap him on the wrist and set him free. Until he does it to your kid on his 18th b-day, then fry him. And he's in Florida, so they would.
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Old 05-19-2003, 11:16 AM   #32 (permalink)
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It's not like he forced the gator to eat the cat its sort of a natural thing. Sure a little bit of punishment....wtf jailtime? not like he multilated it personally.
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Old 05-19-2003, 11:50 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I really don't know what disturbs me more...that this budding little sociopath did what he did, or the fact that so many of you actually find it humerous. And yes, by the way, at 14 he most certainly does know right from wrong.
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Old 05-19-2003, 11:55 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Lest face it, the kid obviously knew what he was doing, but 5 years in jail?... that´s simply stupid
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Old 05-19-2003, 01:08 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I read this and I'm telling you that if some punk kid did that to one of my cats I'd want to feed HIM to the gator.



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There is a pattern that is clearly established from interviews with sociopaths in prison.
It includes the 'experimenting' of killing pets.
There is much more involved in this then just the killing of a cat.
He knew how much the cat meant to the neighbor.
It was a way of testing the reactions of the cat owner as much as the thrill of killing.
Trying him as adult might be a bad way to go since he would be hanging out with some of the very people he emulates.
The suggestion of a psych ward and intensive therapy might work.
If it doesn't a very close eye needs to kept on this kid.
I totally agree with RedRavin40 on this. Hopefully the kid gets the help he needs.
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Old 05-19-2003, 01:50 PM   #36 (permalink)
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edit, ok i was rong i read the statement from other then what i heard.. anyway the kid needs medical help and probably should get some community service for his actions.
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Old 05-19-2003, 02:40 PM   #37 (permalink)
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i'm not a huge cat fan -- although, i woudlnt' want to see a gator eat one.. or would I...

food for thought.
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Old 05-19-2003, 03:52 PM   #38 (permalink)
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That is disturbing. The cat never did anything to deserve that. I agree with Atropos4, feed the little fuck to the gator. Then yank him out... and give him something to think about next time.
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Old 05-19-2003, 04:14 PM   #39 (permalink)
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well, thats different to say the least
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Old 05-19-2003, 05:24 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I'm laughing my ass off right now. People think I'm an asshole because I laughed that a kid threw a cat at a gator. Some people want to throw the kid at a gator and somehow that's OK. HAHAHAHA! People are more important than animals. End of discussion. Jesus Christ, give the damn kid a break. Like we all didn't do stupid shit when we were kids.
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