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Halx 10-09-2004 04:48 PM

Help Identify This Spider
 
My boss found this spider in his back yard. It's name is Ritz.

http://www.mattsmodels.com/crap/ritz1.jpg
http://www.mattsmodels.com/crap/ritz2.jpg
http://www.mattsmodels.com/crap/ritz3.jpg

It's body is about 1 inch long.

Church 10-09-2004 05:26 PM

Looks like a regular household cob-web spider to me. Any idea what the size of it is? Its kind of hard to tell with no point of reference.

TheFu 10-09-2004 05:51 PM

The heck with the spider, what did he use to photograph it? The last picture shows some really nice detail. For what its worth, I live in the southeast and have never seen a spider like that. Must be some kind of regional thing.

bermuDa 10-09-2004 06:15 PM

looks like a muffin with legs!

10-09-2004 06:23 PM

http://mamba.bio.uci.edu/~pjbryant/b...iders/0044.jpg
http://troyb.com/photo/images/fullsi...-OrbWeaver.jpg
http://mamba.bio.uci.edu/~pjbryant/b...oaxacensis.htm

Common name: Orb weaver
Genus/species: Neoscona oaxacensis
Order/family: Araneae: Araneidae
Origin of illustrated specimen: Orange County, CA

maybe that one you found is an albino :crazy: or young??

Irishsean 10-09-2004 06:26 PM

The thorax on that thing reminds me of the shell on a crab...

LeviticusMky 10-09-2004 06:26 PM

Regular house spider!? Yikes!

Up here in the north that would freak the hell out most of the people and garner solemn consideration from the rest... our spiders are flat and black, no spines, no freaky holes in their massive abdomen, just straightforward. They get pretty big, but they are still black and smooth...

House spider... if I saw that in my house in Minnesota I would call, well... someone... who, knows spiders.... umm... the DNR?

Halx 10-09-2004 07:26 PM

I think Xepidemic got it. Sounds like a variant or young orb weaver.

bermuDa 10-09-2004 07:28 PM

must be REAL young then, looks nothing like the orb spiders i've seen

Halx 10-09-2004 07:32 PM

it's got a flat head, 3 holes, the bumps, and faint markings... what else?

iliketoast 10-09-2004 08:06 PM

Find some sceintists at a local college, tell them about it. Get advice on how to catch it, or have them come out n grab it. New species should still be evolving and making appearances on our stage if life is how I believe.
Maybe youll get to name it.

Fire 10-09-2004 08:15 PM

does it have a web- if it has no web it is not an orb weaver- looks like a type of spider we have round here in MO- have to check my state guide on spiders BTW- that does look like a ritz on his back......

Fire 10-09-2004 08:47 PM

been bouncing round the spider sites of the web- as I myself have a heaping dislike for the brown recluse varietys, figured that I would check it out while keeping an eye out for any relatives of ritz- apparently the number of eyes on the spider makes a big difference, and speeds up Iding it- how many peepers does ol ritz have?

Fire 10-09-2004 08:58 PM

found em- according to the photo guide of the spiders of orange county, (found via google) Ritz is a tree spider, a member of the orb weaver family- so props to xepidemic

Jeff 10-09-2004 11:07 PM

Kill it.

I see why's it's name Ritz. That's awesome.

flamingpeach 10-09-2004 11:19 PM

Thats a catface spider!!

http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...ts/catspid.htm

MrFlux 10-10-2004 12:37 AM

After looking at FP's page, I'd have to say it looks like she's right :) Looks a lot more like one of those than an orb weaver.

summerkc 10-10-2004 04:03 PM

If you get bit by it, tell me if you become spiderman, I have those things crawling all around my house!

/look out its spiderman!

K-Wise 10-10-2004 06:19 PM

We had one of those in our yard the other day. I didn't know what it was either. But around here we get all kinds of spiders. Used to have a big tarantula living under one of our stepping stones but my guess is it got tired of us lifting the rock to look at it and decided to move out. A large toad has taken up residence there now. I don't think it ate the tarantula though.

Asta!!

Seandq 10-10-2004 06:26 PM

That's some great photography, if I may say so.

SecretMethod70 10-10-2004 07:53 PM

Between the two options given, no doubt in my mind it looks more like FP's idea.

10-10-2004 08:04 PM

i think they are both considered orb weavers

from my post
Common name: Orb weaver
Genus/species: Neoscona oaxacensis
Order/family: Araneae: Araneidae
Origin of illustrated specimen: Orange County, CA

from the link FP posted
One of the most common but unusual spiders people encounter late in the season is the cat-face spider, Araneus gemma.

so that ritz is some type of orb weaver

fastom 10-10-2004 11:12 PM

Eeek! :eek: Get me a shoe with a hard sole!

errk 10-11-2004 07:42 AM

That is gonna take one big can of hairspray....

water_boy1999 10-11-2004 10:04 AM

Well, I spent some time looking at website and I don't like spiders just as much now as I did before. I got stuck reading bite stories from brown recluse spiders and now I am checking my shoes for them.

clavus 10-11-2004 12:52 PM

Don't even get me started about venomous bugs in shoes. I just had a bad experience...

Fire 10-11-2004 07:10 PM

the orb weaver family is quite big- and common name is a confusing part of id ing spiders- what is a cat faced spider in colorado may be a woods spider in orange county- either way its a member of the orb weaver family......and a benefit to have handy....

wvmoose 10-11-2004 08:09 PM

I agree with Fire. Spot on. I dabble in Herpetolgy, and we see the same thing. One mans "Black Snake" is another's "Pilot Snake" and another's Black Ratsnake, and on and on! Not to mention those that believe every snake is a rattlesnake!

Also, agree with all about the photography on the orb weaver. Wow. Good stuff.

SecretMethod70 10-12-2004 08:18 AM

Another pic of one:

http://www.themaxx.com/offensive/pages/picpile/4440.php

CreepingDeath 10-12-2004 09:16 PM

gee, thx everyone. and I am suppose to go to sleep now??? NO WAY!! Give me a snake anytime....


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