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Halx · 10-09-2004, 04:48 PM

My boss found this spider in his back yard. It's name is Ritz.

It's body is about 1 inch long.

Church · 10-09-2004, 05:26 PM

Looks like a regular household cob-web spider to me. Any idea what the size of it is? Its kind of hard to tell with no point of reference.

TheFu · 10-09-2004, 05:51 PM

The heck with the spider, what did he use to photograph it? The last picture shows some really nice detail. For what its worth, I live in the southeast and have never seen a spider like that. Must be some kind of regional thing.

bermuDa · 10-09-2004, 06:15 PM

looks like a muffin with legs!

10-09-2004, 06:23 PM

http://mamba.bio.uci.edu/~pjbryant/b...oaxacensis.htm

Common name: Orb weaver
Genus/species: Neoscona oaxacensis
Order/family: Araneae: Araneidae
Origin of illustrated specimen: Orange County, CA

maybe that one you found is an albino

or young??

Irishsean · 10-09-2004, 06:26 PM

The thorax on that thing reminds me of the shell on a crab...

LeviticusMky · 10-09-2004, 06:26 PM

Regular house spider!? Yikes!

Up here in the north that would freak the hell out most of the people and garner solemn consideration from the rest... our spiders are flat and black, no spines, no freaky holes in their massive abdomen, just straightforward. They get pretty big, but they are still black and smooth...

House spider... if I saw that in my house in Minnesota I would call, well... someone... who, knows spiders.... umm... the DNR?

Halx · 10-09-2004, 07:26 PM

I think Xepidemic got it. Sounds like a variant or young orb weaver.

bermuDa · 10-09-2004, 07:28 PM

must be REAL young then, looks nothing like the orb spiders i've seen

Halx · 10-09-2004, 07:32 PM

it's got a flat head, 3 holes, the bumps, and faint markings... what else?

iliketoast · 10-09-2004, 08:06 PM

Find some sceintists at a local college, tell them about it. Get advice on how to catch it, or have them come out n grab it. New species should still be evolving and making appearances on our stage if life is how I believe.
Maybe youll get to name it.

Fire · 10-09-2004, 08:15 PM

does it have a web- if it has no web it is not an orb weaver- looks like a type of spider we have round here in MO- have to check my state guide on spiders BTW- that does look like a ritz on his back......

Fire · 10-09-2004, 08:47 PM

been bouncing round the spider sites of the web- as I myself have a heaping dislike for the brown recluse varietys, figured that I would check it out while keeping an eye out for any relatives of ritz- apparently the number of eyes on the spider makes a big difference, and speeds up Iding it- how many peepers does ol ritz have?

Fire · 10-09-2004, 08:58 PM

found em- according to the photo guide of the spiders of orange county, (found via google) Ritz is a tree spider, a member of the orb weaver family- so props to xepidemic

Jeff · 10-09-2004, 11:07 PM

Kill it.

I see why's it's name Ritz. That's awesome.

flamingpeach · 10-09-2004, 11:19 PM

Thats a catface spider!!

http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...ts/catspid.htm

MrFlux · 10-10-2004, 12:37 AM

After looking at FP's page, I'd have to say it looks like she's right

Looks a lot more like one of those than an orb weaver.

summerkc · 10-10-2004, 04:03 PM

If you get bit by it, tell me if you become spiderman, I have those things crawling all around my house!

/look out its spiderman!

K-Wise · 10-10-2004, 06:19 PM

We had one of those in our yard the other day. I didn't know what it was either. But around here we get all kinds of spiders. Used to have a big tarantula living under one of our stepping stones but my guess is it got tired of us lifting the rock to look at it and decided to move out. A large toad has taken up residence there now. I don't think it ate the tarantula though.

Asta!!

Seandq · 10-10-2004, 06:26 PM

That's some great photography, if I may say so.

SecretMethod70 · 10-10-2004, 07:53 PM

Between the two options given, no doubt in my mind it looks more like FP's idea.

10-10-2004, 08:04 PM

i think they are both considered orb weavers

from my post
Common name: Orb weaver
Genus/species: Neoscona oaxacensis
Order/family: Araneae: Araneidae
Origin of illustrated specimen: Orange County, CA

from the link FP posted
One of the most common but unusual spiders people encounter late in the season is the cat-face spider, Araneus gemma.

so that ritz is some type of orb weaver

fastom · 10-10-2004, 11:12 PM

Eeek!

Get me a shoe with a hard sole!

errk · 10-11-2004, 07:42 AM

That is gonna take one big can of hairspray....

water_boy1999 · 10-11-2004, 10:04 AM

Well, I spent some time looking at website and I don't like spiders just as much now as I did before. I got stuck reading bite stories from brown recluse spiders and now I am checking my shoes for them.

clavus · 10-11-2004, 12:52 PM

Don't even get me started about venomous bugs in shoes. I just had a bad experience...

Fire · 10-11-2004, 07:10 PM

the orb weaver family is quite big- and common name is a confusing part of id ing spiders- what is a cat faced spider in colorado may be a woods spider in orange county- either way its a member of the orb weaver family......and a benefit to have handy....

wvmoose · 10-11-2004, 08:09 PM

I agree with Fire. Spot on. I dabble in Herpetolgy, and we see the same thing. One mans "Black Snake" is another's "Pilot Snake" and another's Black Ratsnake, and on and on! Not to mention those that believe every snake is a rattlesnake!

Also, agree with all about the photography on the orb weaver. Wow. Good stuff.

SecretMethod70 · 10-12-2004, 08:18 AM

Another pic of one:

http://www.themaxx.com/offensive/pages/picpile/4440.php

CreepingDeath · 10-12-2004, 09:16 PM

gee, thx everyone. and I am suppose to go to sleep now??? NO WAY!! Give me a snake anytime....

10-09-2004, 04:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Help Identify This Spider My boss found this spider in his back yard. It's name is Ritz. It's body is about 1 inch long. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

10-09-2004, 05:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Church Tilted F*ckhead Location: New Jersey	Looks like a regular household cob-web spider to me. Any idea what the size of it is? Its kind of hard to tell with no point of reference. __________________ Through counter-intelligence, it should be possible to pinpoint potential trouble makers, and neutralize them.

10-09-2004, 06:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
bermuDa don't ignore this--> Location: CA	looks like a muffin with legs! __________________ I am the very model of a moderator gentleman.

10-09-2004, 06:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
Xepidemic Guest	http://mamba.bio.uci.edu/~pjbryant/b...oaxacensis.htm Common name: Orb weaver Genus/species: Neoscona oaxacensis Order/family: Araneae: Araneidae Origin of illustrated specimen: Orange County, CA maybe that one you found is an albino or young?? Last edited by Xepidemic; 10-09-2004 at 06:58 PM..

10-09-2004, 06:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Irishsean edited for content Location: Austin, TX	The thorax on that thing reminds me of the shell on a crab... __________________ There are no absolute rules of conduct, either in peace or war. Everything depends on circumstances. Leon Trotsky

10-09-2004, 05:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
TheFu Crazy	The heck with the spider, what did he use to photograph it? The last picture shows some really nice detail. For what its worth, I live in the southeast and have never seen a spider like that. Must be some kind of regional thing.

10-09-2004, 06:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
LeviticusMky Crazy Location: Minnesota	Regular house spider!? Yikes! Up here in the north that would freak the hell out most of the people and garner solemn consideration from the rest... our spiders are flat and black, no spines, no freaky holes in their massive abdomen, just straightforward. They get pretty big, but they are still black and smooth... House spider... if I saw that in my house in Minnesota I would call, well... someone... who, knows spiders.... umm... the DNR?

10-09-2004, 07:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	I think Xepidemic got it. Sounds like a variant or young orb weaver. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

10-09-2004, 07:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
bermuDa don't ignore this--> Location: CA	must be REAL young then, looks nothing like the orb spiders i've seen __________________ I am the very model of a moderator gentleman.

10-09-2004, 07:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	it's got a flat head, 3 holes, the bumps, and faint markings... what else? __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

10-09-2004, 08:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
iliketoast Upright	Find some sceintists at a local college, tell them about it. Get advice on how to catch it, or have them come out n grab it. New species should still be evolving and making appearances on our stage if life is how I believe. Maybe youll get to name it.

10-09-2004, 08:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	does it have a web- if it has no web it is not an orb weaver- looks like a type of spider we have round here in MO- have to check my state guide on spiders BTW- that does look like a ritz on his back...... __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

10-09-2004, 08:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	been bouncing round the spider sites of the web- as I myself have a heaping dislike for the brown recluse varietys, figured that I would check it out while keeping an eye out for any relatives of ritz- apparently the number of eyes on the spider makes a big difference, and speeds up Iding it- how many peepers does ol ritz have? __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

10-09-2004, 08:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	found em- according to the photo guide of the spiders of orange county, (found via google) Ritz is a tree spider, a member of the orb weaver family- so props to xepidemic __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

10-09-2004, 11:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jeff And we'll all float on ok... Location: Iowa City	Kill it. I see why's it's name Ritz. That's awesome. __________________ For those who believe in God, most of the big questions are answered. But for those of us who can't readily accept the God formula, the big answers don't remain stone-written. We adjust to new conditions and discoveries. We are pliable. Love need not be a command or faith a dictum. I am my own God. We are here to unlearn the teachings of the church, state, and our educational system. We are here to drink beer. We are here to kill war. We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us. --Charles Bukowski

10-09-2004, 11:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
flamingpeach hip mama Location: redmond, washington	Thats a catface spider!! http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopE...ts/catspid.htm __________________ I've eaten my veggies all my life so bring it on, I am educated and strong for the revolution.

10-12-2004, 08:18 AM	#29 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Another pic of one: http://www.themaxx.com/offensive/pages/picpile/4440.php __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

10-10-2004, 12:37 AM	#17 (permalink)
MrFlux Fluxing wildly... Location: Auckland, New Zealand	After looking at FP's page, I'd have to say it looks like she's right Looks a lot more like one of those than an orb weaver. __________________ flux (n.) Medicine. The discharge of large quantities of fluid material from the body, especially the discharge of watery feces from the intestines.

10-10-2004, 04:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
summerkc Tilted Location: Indiana	If you get bit by it, tell me if you become spiderman, I have those things crawling all around my house! /look out its spiderman!

10-10-2004, 06:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	We had one of those in our yard the other day. I didn't know what it was either. But around here we get all kinds of spiders. Used to have a big tarantula living under one of our stepping stones but my guess is it got tired of us lifting the rock to look at it and decided to move out. A large toad has taken up residence there now. I don't think it ate the tarantula though. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

10-10-2004, 06:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
Seandq Tilted Location: Orlando, FL	That's some great photography, if I may say so.

10-10-2004, 07:53 PM	#21 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Between the two options given, no doubt in my mind it looks more like FP's idea. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

10-10-2004, 08:04 PM	#22 (permalink)
Xepidemic Guest	i think they are both considered orb weavers from my post Common name: Orb weaver Genus/species: Neoscona oaxacensis Order/family: Araneae: Araneidae Origin of illustrated specimen: Orange County, CA from the link FP posted One of the most common but unusual spiders people encounter late in the season is the cat-face spider, Araneus gemma. so that ritz is some type of orb weaver Last edited by Xepidemic; 10-10-2004 at 08:06 PM..

10-10-2004, 11:12 PM	#23 (permalink)
fastom Psycho Location: way out west	Eeek! Get me a shoe with a hard sole!

10-11-2004, 07:42 AM	#24 (permalink)
errk Upright	That is gonna take one big can of hairspray....

10-11-2004, 10:04 AM	#25 (permalink)
water_boy1999 Fly em straight! Location: Above and Beyond	Well, I spent some time looking at website and I don't like spiders just as much now as I did before. I got stuck reading bite stories from brown recluse spiders and now I am checking my shoes for them. __________________ Doh!!!! -Homer Simpson

10-11-2004, 12:52 PM	#26 (permalink)
clavus pow! Location: NorCal	Don't even get me started about venomous bugs in shoes. I just had a bad experience... __________________ Ass, gas or grass. Nobody rides for free.

10-11-2004, 07:10 PM	#27 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	the orb weaver family is quite big- and common name is a confusing part of id ing spiders- what is a cat faced spider in colorado may be a woods spider in orange county- either way its a member of the orb weaver family......and a benefit to have handy.... __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

10-11-2004, 08:09 PM	#28 (permalink)
wvmoose Upright	I agree with Fire. Spot on. I dabble in Herpetolgy, and we see the same thing. One mans "Black Snake" is another's "Pilot Snake" and another's Black Ratsnake, and on and on! Not to mention those that believe every snake is a rattlesnake! Also, agree with all about the photography on the orb weaver. Wow. Good stuff.

10-12-2004, 09:16 PM	#30 (permalink)
CreepingDeath Upright	gee, thx everyone. and I am suppose to go to sleep now??? NO WAY!! Give me a snake anytime....