Xiangsu

I was outside talking on the phone in my grandmothers backyard. There is a golf course right back there and then a little further to the right of her backyard is an airport. The airport is part of a school, Tulsa Tech I think.

Anyway, while I was talking on the phone I was looking up and watching the planes flying out and coming in and I saw one kind of flip up and do a nose dive. At first, when it went on its back, I thought it was going to a stunt. However, it instead did a nose dive and I knew something was wrong because of how close it was too the ground. Not to mention it was a Cessna and those aren't exactly acrobatic planes. Trust me, I flew one about two years ago and it was at that school.

I could see the flames burst as the plane smashed into the ground. It was somewhere between 1/2 a mile and 1 mile from where I was and it definitely caught me off guard. I was shocked and we went inside and turned on the news.

After about 10 minutes it came on the television and they said that they didn't know if the plane was landing or taking off. I tried to help so I called in and told them that it was landing. They asked me for an interview . I think its weird because when they said that I was excited about being on T.v., and albeit nervous as hell, but it was easy how for a moment I could forget the feelings of sorrow for those that, obviously, must have died.

The official news that I heard today from my Aunt was that there were three people in the plane and there was a problem with the engine right after it took off. I assume that he noticed the problem, tried to come back and realized he wasn't going to make it. He then nose dived the plane into a field to make sure that no one else would get killed. I can't imagine the thoughts that were going through his/her head. For all we know they could have made it back, maybe they could have made a safe landing, but rather than risk it he/she took his own life and the lives of his passengers.

I did the interview and told them my story. When I watched it on T.V. later that night it was hilarious, it wasn't me. It was this older guy with a mullet, but what was really funny was that he said some of the exact stuff I told the reporter. I told her how you see stuff like that on T.V. and you don't expect it to happen right in front of you. He said the exact same thing, only differece in that part was I mentioned 9/11. Then later he said how he thought it was going to do an acrobatic stunt...again...just like me. Do you think its possible that they gave my lines to someone else? lol, oh well, its not that important.

Has anyone else even heard of this? It happened in Jenks. I really hope no one here is related to those who crashed and sorry if my comments about the interview made me insensitive, that was not my intention. Sad stuff...

**edit** Just for the record they came to my house and recorded me. It was the same news reporter as the one I saw on tv. The only difference was after she was done talking they showed Joe Dirt instead of me.**edit**

Destrox

Wow thats intense man, I always wished as kid I'd see somthing big like that. But now that I actually step back and look at the big picture, I was always wishing for somone elses pain when wishing for that.

As for your idea behind them giving your lines to somone else, it truely wouldnt surprise me, the media is the devil.

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Carno

Once when I was playing soccer with some friends I saw a sky diver's parachute get all tangled up after he deployed it. He dropped for quite a while before landing in a tree that was on the edge of the airport.

EDIT: btw, I'm a pilot and what I think might have happened is that the pilot realized he had engine trouble, tried to turn around to land back on the runway, stalled as he tried to make the turn, and consequently went into a nose dive.

Of course, I didn't see it happen so I might be way off, but that's one way it could have happened. An aircraft gains a ton of drag going into a turn, so we're trained not to attempt to do a 180 degree turn unless we have gained over 1000 ft of altitude. So if he didn't have enough altitude, he may have kept the nose high in order not to descend too much before he could complete the turn, and ended up stalling the plane. I highly doubt that he was thinking about anyone on the ground though. In that situation he probably didn't even have time to consider them, much less decide to turn away and kill himself.

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ForgottenKnight

That's sad. At least nobody else was hurt. It's cool that you tried to help the media get the story right by being interviewed, but a shame they didn't show you on TV. It's perfectly possible they had another guy watch your interview and then relate it as if it was himself if the news wanted to edit it somehow. I don't know if they do that or not, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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Xiangsu

The thing that makes me think he did on purpose was because of where he wrecked. He crashed across the street from the golf course and it was in an empty lot and there was only one house really close by. I guess it could have been coincidence, but maybe I just like to imagine him dying as a hero.

Xiangsu

BTW here is a news article I found about it:



http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...9435437.htm?1c



Small plane crashes southeast of Tulsa, killing three

CLAYTON BELLAMY

Associated Press

JENKS, Okla. - The fiery crash of a small plane shortly after takeoff here killed a Tulsa couple and their young granddaughter who were flying back to her home in southwest Missouri, officials said Wednesday.

The victims were identified as Richard Dunham, 52, Debra Dunham, 51, and 15-month-old Abigail Dunham of Carl Junction, Mo., Jenks Police Chief Don Selle said.

The Cessna T210L crashed within minutes of taking off Tuesday afternoon from Jones Riverside Airport and burst into flames in a field southeast of the small airstrip.

Richard Dunham, an instrument rated pilot with more than 1,500 flight hours, reported an oil leak that sprayed oil on to the single-engine plane's windshield, said Jim Struhsaker, senior investigator with the National Transportation Safety Board.

Struhsaker and an investigator with the Federal Aviation Administration began reviewing the charred wreckage, flight recordings and records Wednesday as they search for the accident's cause.

The blackened, crushed aircraft still rests surrounded by yellow emergency scene tape in the field behind a new subdivision.

"He was at low altitude, so the energy of the aircraft was probably very low," said Struhsaker, from the NTSB's Seattle office, adding, "He was probably in what we call an insipid or beginning spin."

Struhsaker said he would file a preliminary report on the crash within five business days, with a final report coming in about six months.

The aircraft, commonly used by hobby pilots, landed flat on its belly and bounced into its current position, Struhsaker said. No skid marks scarred the field.

He said Richard Dunham never used the word "emergency" in conversations with the tower preceding the crash. Another pilot flying nearby estimated the Dunhams were between 200- and 400-feet above the ground, Struhsaker said.

Emergency Medical Services Authority received the call about the crash about 5:13 Tuesday, said spokeswoman Tina Wells. Black smoke billowing into the sky could be seen for miles.

Struhsaker wouldn't say whether the crash or the flames that immediately engulfed the fuselage killed the Dunhams.

"The way the wreckage hit in the field suggests to me that the Gs (the force of gravity) were fairly substantial," he said.

Glava

I think the whole "you only see this kind of stuff on TV" thing is a pretty generic response for a witness of something of this magnitude. I don't think the mullet guy was consciously ripping you off.

Xiangsu

I don't doubt it at all, I just like to think that there is some sort of conspiracy behind why I didn't get on T.V.

Glory's Sun

that's pretty crazy! I've lived on AF bases most of my life (till I moved out heh) and I never saw anything really crazy like that. I always wondered what I would do in a situation like that..

Charlatan

I found it odd that you went to the TV for more information rather than just travelling the .5 to 1 mile to see it in person... Maybe that just me though.

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Redgirl

I live in OKC and I heard about that crash yesterday. It was so sad and scary at the same time. I live right across the street from a small airport and those little planes like that take off over my house. Sometimes they look too low and I've had a few sound like they were about to fall right on us, to the point where I actually went outside to see if I was in imminent danger.

It is an adrenaline rush to see something like that and human nature to be attracted to the macabre. Why else do little traffic accidents tie up the highways? Everyone's gotta see, dammit! And remember the big tornado from 99? I bet people from all over the state drove to OKC just to see the carnage.

(Sorry, got a little off on my rant there...)

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sherpahigh

That's what it sounds like to me too. If a plane enters into a spin so close to the ground there's not a lot that can be done.

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raeanna74

That would be scary to see something like that actually happen. I would feel so helpless. That feeling, of being helpless terrifies me almost more than anything. I can hardly imagine the thoughts of those people while they were diving. Their loss is regretful.

In regards to them handing your lines to someone else...I did an interview once with CBS or maybe it was NBC (it was more than 10 years ago now). I was an employee at a gun store and they were asking me odd questions I thought at the time. Like "What does a female customer ask for when they come in looking for a gun?" Then they took my words and edited the crap out of them. Ended up I looked like a female customer that was scared of getting attacked (yeah, right in our tiny town, Duh) and had to find a small handgun for protection. It sounded stupid. I haven't done anything since. I know they'll have me saying on TV what they want me to say no matter what I WANT to say. Their ability to edit and their motivation to say a specific message outweighs any integrity in the story. I almost never watch the news anymore as well. It's mostly useless I think. Everyones got an agenda. Sad isn't it?

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shakran

Most likely not. It sounds like you did an interview over the phone? If so, they went with the mullet guy because they had video of him. If they sent a photog out to get video of you as well, they may well have put you in another newscast. I get at least 2 sots (Sound on Tape - aka interviews) for a vosot (voice-over with sound on tape - that's a story where the anchor reads the whole story while you watch video of it, and pauses somewhere in the story to show a clip from the interview). Then, for example, I can use Mullet guy in the 5:00 and then use you in the 6:00 so that the story is fresh instead of just being a repeat of what we did in the 5.

They probably didn't feed your lines to the guy because just about everyone says the same thing after a plane crash. "yeah it was a loud bang. I've never seen that before. It's like what you see on TV," so it's real plausible that he came up with what you said as well


Actually it is - if they DID feed your lines to that guy then they're staging an interview. Journalists are supposed to show you what happened, and they are not supposed to influence the event or fake what happened. Sure, it doesn't seem like a big deal here, but if they're willing to fake that interview, what ELSE are they faking? You lose all credibility if you pull crap like that, which is why that station most likely did not give the guy a script.


nah, it doesn't make you insensitive. Most people have the same reactions when we put them on TV.


Oh, and Raeanna? Give us another chance eh? Just because one reporter was an unethical fuck doesn't mean we all are! (although your statement goes to show exactly why it's so important for us to hold ourselves to high ethical standards - one story 10 years ago from some jerkwad has made you stop trusting TV news entirely. That's pretty far reaching.)