K-Wise

Don't think it's been posted before either.

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Subject: Re: Here Is another Idea!!! we may have to move!

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>____________ <font size=3><b>For those of you who don't live in Texas and want to move here, come on, we have plenty of room for you.
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>____________ If Kerry is elected President:__After listening to all the gloating in the press and seeing the liberal whiners along the inauguration route, the folks from Texas would probably decide to take matters into their own hands.
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>______________To wit:
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>______________#1: If he gets elected, let Kerry become President of the 49 United States.
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>______________#2: Texas will SECEDE FROM THE UNION as guaranteed by our right to do so when we joined the Union.
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>______________#3: George W. Bush becomes the President of the Republic of Texas.
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>______________Will we survive as a Republic?__We ll, let's see... NASA's in Houston (so, we basically control the space industry).
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>______________85% of the gasoline in the United States is refined in Texas City.
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>______________Over 65% of the defense industry is located here. (The term "DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS" would take on a whole new meaning.)__Oil - we can supply all the oil that the Republic of Texas will need for the next 300 years.
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>______________Natural Gas - Again we have all we need.__Maybe we'll sell some to Mr.
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>____________ Kerry.
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>______________Computer Industry - HP, Texas Instruments, Dell, Compaq, EDS, Raytheon, National Semiconductor, Motorola, Intel, AMD, Atmel, Applied Materials, Ball Semiconductor, Dallas Semiconductor, Delphi, Nortel... All located here.
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>______________Health Care - We have the largest research centers for Cancer research, the best burn centers and the top trauma units in the world.
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>______________Education - Between U.T., Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Rice, TCU, SMU, University of Houston, Baylor, University of North Texas and Texas Women's University we ought to be covered.__Ivy grows better in the south anyway.
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>______________Labor - Lots of workers here (and just open the border when we need some
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>____________ more)
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>______________We have control of the paper industry, plastics, insurance, etc.
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>______________Defense - In case of a foreign invasion, we have the Texas National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard.
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>______________Agriculture - We are totally self sufficient in beef, poultry, hogs, chickens and vegetable produce.
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>____________ *Gotta mention that we have an abundant supply of the best-looking ladies in the whole world.__And any snide remarks about our women being "corn fed"
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>____________ will get your hind-end kicked --by our women!)__We have Faith in God as our Supreme Creator and Savior.
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>______________Texas will have "In God We Trust" on the front and back of its own money.
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>______________Texas will have prayers at all sporting events.
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>______________Texans will have the Ten Commandments posted where ever they want.
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>______________Each school day will be opened with prayer.
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>______________We've got mountains.__We've got beaches.__East Texas is forest.__West Texas is desert.
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>______________There isn't a thing out there that we need and don't have.
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>______________Now to the rest of The United States under President Kerry:
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>______________God bless you all...truly...and good luck!
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>______________Signed,
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>______________The Citizens of "The Republic of Texas"</b></font>

Now this does not necessarily represent the views of the Asta man himself, I did however think you dudes would get a kick outta this. Being from Texas myself I dunno if I'm all too thrilled about this shit.

Asta!!

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Glava

Now watch this drive .

Seriously though, there is no way in hell the rest of the US would let Texas secede. And even if it does, it will still have to trade with us. No country is an island (in a figurative sense, to all you Britons).

Carno

NASA is in Florida and California, not just Texas.

I thought that email was pretty fucking stupid. One person (the writer) is assuming that he shares the same view as everyone in Texas which is extremely naive and ignorant. And beauty is relative. If he thinks every woman in Texas is hot, that's simply his single, unimportant opinion.

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Mephisto2

I've seen this before, way before the current President was in power.

Old news. Nothing to see here. Move along.


Mr Mephisto

PS - Statement #2 is incorrect. The right of States to secede was effectively abolished by the Civil War. Sheesh...


PPS - It's meant to be satirical by the way...

Blackthorn

*hitting the snoooooooze button*

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K-Wise

Have yerself a blue bell country day!

Asta!!

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basmoq

Um, Kerry rocks, and Texas oil giants will just have to live with that, he may not be perfect, but ANYTHING is better than Bush. For that matter, as previously stated, Texans are full of it, they couldn't exist with out the other 49 states, unless they wanna be more like Mexico :P

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moonstrucksoul

I LOVE BUSH!, just not G.W.

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MSD

It was kind of funny. I'll give them credit for that, but not much more. Somehow, this reminds me of a kid who doesn't get his way running into his room and locking the door until someone else is ready to compromise.

Fremen

We fuckin' don't want G. Duhbya Bush back! He's a loser! And a moran!

Thank God he's not a Texan...

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Omar12

umm, the only thing that popped to my mind reading that is the site of the guy that came from the future, and he said that there will be a civil war in the US. at the end of 2004...

i will try to find the website.

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matteo101

It was quite funny actually, ile give them that. I must say it would be funny if they left, they could be like Quebec. Oh well, I really hope Kerry will win, and if he does, who needs the texans anyways.

Seaver

Sorry but in the treaty of annexation Texas has the right to leave the US whenever they choose.

The Texas economy would survive, but would take a while to get over the temporary recession of people leaving to stay in the US.

Will it happen? Not anytime soon. But if the public sentiment in Texas does get that high the US has no legal right to prevent it.

Journeyman

Omar: John Titor.

Seaver: Ever watch Family Guy? Well, long story short, exercising the legal right to secede leads to a side effect: Being a foreign nation. Sure, you can leave, but once you're out, we're just gonna bring you back in under a new "treaty."

KellyC

It's been done...

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...ighlight=texas

yeah, it's funny.

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ibis

Things like this make me hate Texas...

Journeyman

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/dwe/16341.htm

Or this.
http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/annexation/

So, what is it? Do you guys have a legal opt-out or not?

bing bing

People actually forward that shit?

omega2K4

OMFG, RUN AWAY!

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Boo

YAWN.....

Going to Texas tomorrow.... I hope I don't get too bad of a headache from the IQ drop when crossing the state line.

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Seaver

Funny, I felt the same way when I went to Canada, when I went to New York/Boston, and especially when I went to California.

matteo101

What in gods name are you talking about seaver? Or are you being sarcastic...?

K-Wise

Hey man don't be so general. I'm from Texas my IQ ain't very high (like 148) but I damn sure am not stupid man. Just cause one stupid guy got a bunch a other stupid guys together and made an e-mail doesn't mean I have to be a dumbass too.

Asta!!

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Seaver

Just being a dick back to boo.

matteo101

Oh I gotchya, yeah, haha.

Iliftrocks

So the whole state is gonna pull an Alec Baldwin, friggin hipocrites

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rat

No. We do not. Annexation is a myth. Last time Texas seceded, we got welcomed back to the fold four and a half years later, with fights still occurring several weeks after the surrender at Appomatox. Once you're in the United States, there's no getting out. Last place that came even close to "secession" would be the Phillipines, as they left willingly from commonwealth status.

As for that email, there are a lot of true parts, and a lot of problematic parts.

However, those of you who support Kerry I have to disagree with. He's no better than Bush. Hell, he's no "oil tycoon," but his wife only has 700 MILLION DOLLARS. Sounds like a humble "man of the people" to me--just like George W Bush does.

The real problem I have with Kerry is his abuse of his veteran's status and his "decorated war hero" image--especially concerning his purple hearts. My cousin went through Vietnam as a scout sniper with the Marine Corps. He earned his purple heart by taking a rifle round through his left shoulder/pectoral region. I personally know several other recipients of the Purple Heart. They all say the same thing--they weren't heros. They did what they had to do, nothing more, nothing less. One of em, Pat, earned two purple hearts, a bronze star and a silver star in the four years he was in the Marines--all during the 7 months he spent in Vietnam. Funny how even Pat, a highly-decorated Marine who got a battlefield comission to Lieutenant in the conflict, is humble about his decorations. All of em are. Kerry isn't

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Rekna

I think the reason kerry pushed his war experience was because the bush admin was calling him unpatriotic and started questioning his service. Since the Bush admin is running such a heavy negative campaign Kerry has to push every positive thing he has.

Personally i commend Kerry for staying positive where Bush has not. Bush has no morals.

Munku

Considering it's the US Military, they could easily relocate..

redrum

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Thats plain silly, he has no common sense, but he has morals. Just because they aren't your's doesn't mean he doesn't have them to begin with.
And Kerry pushes his war time because thats the only positive he has to push, his wife owns everything else.

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Glava

Since when does the United States care about laws?

Journeyman

Shit, who woulda known that Snopes covered it.
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texas.asp

And I'm from California, too!

Hwed

Y'all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas!

theusername

This is a joke, lol. Pretty funny too I've seen it around. Maybe I'm an idiot but some here are talking like there's someone out there who's actually serious about these ideas.

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Esco

I live in Texas. If Bush is elected to lead the "Texas Republic" it will be time to leave. I've had enough of him and his administrations.

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greytone

Why is it that everyone thinks the other side is being negative, but their side is all positive. The only reason that Kerry was nominated is that he went negative against Bush in the primaries. The Democratic primaries were a contest who could be the most Anit Bush and still appear mainstream enoug ( to the Democrat base) to be elected in November. There was 6 months of speeches attacking Bush and Bush ran ads in response to those attacks.

It should also be pointed out that Bush has NEVER publicly questioned Kerry's patriotism. This is a common defense of the left. If you point out a weakness on the part of a Democrat based on their record you are accused of questioning their patriotism. No, I am questioning their judgement, leadership, and political philosophy. That is legitimate discourse in a political debate.

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Sargeman

Good grief!

Some of you guys act as if what one person does speaks for everyone or everything. Some of y'all act like this was a serious email that all Texans had got together and agreed on this.





Some of this stuff doesn't even make any sense:

Real Texans don't feel that way

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Rekna

Ohh i didn't realize there were people in the world that considered lieing to make yourself look good and others look bad was considered good morals, my mistake.

TheBrit

Sounds like these guys have never heard of an embargo or the fact that these companies can get up and move.

greytone

When I first started reading the thread, that is what I meant to point out in my response. Then as I read further I completely forgot what started the thread.

I went to college in Texas an unfortunately long time ago. While I was there I did come to the conclusion that Texans, as a rule, were Texans first and Americans second. I don't mean that as a dig or complaint. It is just something that I gradually became aware of. Maybe that is because Texas is the only state that got to the point of actually having a functioning national government before joining the Union.

That may actually be a good thing and more in line with what many of our Founding Fathers were looking for.

I loved my time in Dallas and I would not hesitate to move back.

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