Bobby Fischer Found!
 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125926,00.html


I never heard this side of the story before. I didn't realize the government was after him or that he hated the US.

Good, I can finally sleep easy tonight. :rolleyes:

What's next, we'll find Osama playing in a ping pong tournament in North Korea?

hahaha, so he's wanted because he played chess in Yugoslavia?

Wow, I certainly don't want this hardened criminal around MY neighborhood! :lol:

that's SO bizarre...:confused:

Oh well, that movie "In Search Of Bobby Fischer" was good.

I have a friend who thinks he played against Bobby a few years back. When he was missing, a player appeared on some online chess games, and "people who know what they're talking about when it comes to chess" say that the style of play was very much Bobby

I would be interested in checking out Fisherandom. Actually sounds like a cool game.

Bizarre, never knew Bobby has such a negative view of the U.S..

He cracked badly under the strain.

He was something of a prima donna to start with, and the ludicrious "my chess dick is bigger than your chess dick" competition between the USSR and the US was a final straw.

I don't blame him, I would have lost it too, I reckon. All the crap that went on on both sides.

Completely off topic, but DAMN waterboy, that's a sexy avatar!

And yes, Searching for Bobby Fischer was a great movie!

You all laugh now, but hopefully this will send a message to all those rogue chessplayers out there.

I for one am glad that I no longer have to worry about unrully chess players sneaking up behind me in a dark alley. They always have that one guy that comes at you two steps forward, one step left, while another will try to cut you off diagonally. It'll be that last guy who comes at you straight on that you should worry about the most. Checkmate.

I hope we lock him up in a Federal Pound Me In the Ass Prison. Chess players that violate sanctions and play wherever they want to should not be tolerated.

Well...I had some sarcastic remarks to make, but it seems that y'all have beaten me to it. Over and over and over again.

How about a nice game of global thermonuclear war instead?

Only way to win is to not play at all. :D

Ha!!! Another casualty of the "war on terror"!!!

Glad to see Bush's plan is finally working.

/me goes back in corner and plays nice

Fischer was always very eccsentric and rude, his anti-american views didnt start until he got indicted from disobeying a direct order from the US Department of the Treasury that he should not violate the embargo. This is also when he began expressing his anti-semetic views too..

In themans defence though, The guy believes that everybody is out to get him and that everybody is stealing from him (especially jews)... he is a paranoid delusional at the least if not a paranoid schitzophrenic.....

here is a website that has all has all his radio interviews and alot of his personal correspondence of his over the last 12 years, from what i understand this site is ran by fischer by proxy thru a friend. If you read some of his letters (especially the ones to the executor of his sisters will) you will notice he is slightly off kilter... and if you take the time to read all of them (like i did), I think you will see he is not a healthy person.

http://home.att.ne.jp/moon/fischer/

I'm very much in favor of enforcement in this situation. The guy acts like he is his own sovereign nation - which he is not.

I prefer a situation in which citizens are held accountable for their actions.

This is so crazy. I always sorta thought he was more myth than man. Of course I knew that he was an actual guy, I just never put much thought into him actually being out there, or that he would hate the US, or that he might be freakin' wanted.

i no idea it was even real. i hope they put him in a chess free prison where he cant harm anybody with his chess playing ways. to think people these days are still playing chess so dangerously just ruins my day. i can not eat lunch now.

Okay.


So, call me stupid but why the fuck was he not allowed to play chess in Yugoslavia? This makes no fucking sense and I'm mad I wasted the time to read it.

There was an embargo against Yugoslavia (for thier role in the bosnia war crimes) imposed by the UN in 1992. The United States government (and therefore all of its citizens) agreed to abide by this embargo. The US Dept. of the Treasury sent Fischer a cease and desist order not to engage in commercial activity with Yugoslavia (the order specifically listed the chess tournament as the economic activity). He played anyways. His playing may not cause much harm, but if they allow one person to break the embargo, more will, and then whats to keep microsoft from opening a semiconductor plant there? An embargo if enforced is an effective form of political persuasion that is often used in lieu of war, his activities undermined these efforts and were in direct violation of an executive order (which has the effect of law).

hmm you really want to see the US invest money in making sure a crazy guy whose talent's the government exploited for years goes to jail for playing chess 12 years ago when we told him not to? it just seems like huge waste of federal money to me.

well stated Fob.

All this over a game of chess.


People are dying in the streets everyday here in America and we have to waste time and energy of fuckin' finding some dipshit chess player. This makes me fuckin' sick.

we didn't waste much time or money finding him, we flagged his passport, he went through a airport checkpoint and the japanese captured him and we are flying him back.. we've known where he is almost all of the last 12 years, but we havent bothered to waste the time or energy to find him, we just waited for him to fuck up...

but i suppose violent crimes should be the only punishable crimes.. lets start ignoring monopolies, insider trading, death threats, writing hot checks, deadbeat dads not paying child support, forgery, hacking etc... hey nobody is dying so lets just ignore it...

he is an american citizen, he was ordered not to play the chess match, he had no business playing it. No citizen should be allowed to undermine the diplomatic efforts of his country, the money his chess match generated quite possibly went to finance the genocide and mass rape which occured in the bosnia war.

putting this through trial will be very expensive, if he got jail time it would be even more expensive. but i think that's unlikly, it seem that mr fischer is somewhat mentally unstable and i doubt they could convict him considering this fact.

I don't think the government was right in telling him not to play chess in the first place. His playing chess does not change our diplomacy (or lack there of) at all.

He played a game of chess. That's not a crime. Everything you just mentioned is a crime. That's the difference.

I think everyone should reread Fob_Magi's first post.

THAT is the funniest thing I've read all day. thx Q. :D

I'm in favor of all enforcement of laws, it's not the lawmen who are to interpret the law just enforce it. It's the judiciary branch that should interpret it and possibly change it.

Fischer now:
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/more/12/2...fischer.ap.jpg

Fischer then:
http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/fischer_bobby.jpg

I nominate this post for post of the month

fuckin classic man, it had me laughing

hahahahahahah, you guys are great, lol!

Seriously though, I just watched that movie the other day on hbo. How bizzare ;)

I can't believe I wasted 15 minutes reading this thread.

and now he's moving to Iceland.... as my icelandic friend said,"We must be running out of idiots because now we are importing them."

Great thread. Embargo violation is an interesting crime. I feel like it's not fair that my government tells me I can't go to Cuba. They are making the decision for all of us based on politics. They are right to be displeased with Cuba and other countries, but I hate feeling like my country is my mom and I'm 7 years old and there are certain friends I'm not allowed to play with.

With regards to Bobby Fischer, he is really a hard man to love. I respect his achievements and he is one of my favorite chess players of all time, but his outspoken antisemitism is VERY offputting. He leaves me very conflicted and is an amazingly challenging and fascinating individual.

What a whack job.

Hmmm anti-semite. Hates America. Made frequent trips to the Philipines....possible terrorist in the making?

With the mind that guy has and the world the way it is, it does not surprise that he's off center. Untill he hurts someone, I wish the US would leave him alone.
I feel he payed his dues to the US gov.

I think the US also wanted him for tax evasion for the game they told him not to play.

I don't know about "until" he hurts someone. Assuming he would that is. Waiting "until" he hurts someone is stupid. Then whats the point? Sure he's drinking a lot and he has to drive home but lets not do anything "until" he hurts someone. That doesn't do any good. If he's not all there it's best to supervise him so he not only could possibly hurt someone else..but himself as well. Again assuming that he actually would hurt. Been plenty of guys I've known who weren't all there who wouldn't hurt a fly. I of course don't like his anti-semite remarks but words only hurt if you let them.

Asta!!