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blindawg · 07-19-2004, 11:25 AM

$ = Freedom (or lesser sentence)

Unfortunatly nearly anythign can be bought now days..

brianna · 07-19-2004, 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by KnifeMissile
If you're playing in the stock market at all, you should be well aware of insider trading laws. Warnings are sent out in my company all the time so it's a little hard to plead ignorance of it, especially if you run the company! She knew the law and she chose to break it (had she, actually, commited the crime, of course).

yes i'm not saying that she was ignorant of the law, i'm saying that most americans (those who vilifying her) are not well aware of how the laws work.

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Originally posted by KnifeMissile
Many laws can't be enforced onto everybody because of a lack of governmental resources but that doesn't make the laws any less respectable. Speeding is a good example, as is child pornography. If you're going to be pissed off that you got a ticket while so many others didn't then you might as well be pissed off that so many people other than you are rich (assuming you're not, of course)...

i'm not arguing that she didn't commit a crime not am i arguing that such crimes should go unpunished, i'm just saying that i am not outraged or offended by her lack remorse. I completely identify with it and i question how we can vilify one individual for committing a crime that is so common amongst her peers.

Fearless_Hyena · 07-19-2004, 07:54 PM

If something is wrong, but is common, does that make it any less wrong?

whocarz · 07-19-2004, 08:28 PM

Right and wrong are determined by society at large, so in answer to your question, yes, it would.

brianna · 07-19-2004, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by Fearless_Hyena
If something is wrong, but is common, does that make it any less wrong?

all things being relative... yes.

though, again, i'm not arguing that she was not wrong, i'm arguing that i'm not angry at her for not feeling bad. actions to not feel wrong when they are commonplace amongst one's peers.

anitra · 07-21-2004, 05:23 AM

she's a very successful woman. i believe our society can't handle that. she has made her success on stereotypical female traits ~ celebrating femininity. again screwing a woman for being female.

i'll be interested to see what happens to kenneth lay.

Stompy · 07-21-2004, 06:08 AM

hahaha, I think it's hilarious when people say "society can't handle powerful women".

What year is this?

In any case, she broke the law. Wealthy successful woman aside, if you break the law, you get a punishment.

In this case... her punishment is a mere slap on the wrist compared to what normal people would get (if you don't believe me, just try some insider trading scheme and see what happens). She had stock in her OWN company, knew that the FDA was gonna deny the drug that was coming out, and then sold stock. How is that not illegal?

Whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant in the eyes of the court. Their job is to uphold the law.

She got off easy, which pretty much proves that society has no problem with a wealthy woman. If society was pissed at a wealthy woman, she'd probably be in prison for life.

No one mentions the fact that she has stabbed many people in the back, stepped on many toes, and made many people's lives a living hell to get where she is!

Of course Kenneth Lay will get a hefty sentence. His involvement in Enron, which was a MUCH bigger scheme than Martha Stewart's ordeal. What else would you think will happen to him? What does Ken Lay have to do w/ anything?

Two people broke the law, one happened to sell stock in her own company upon acquiring knowledge that would make shareholders sell, the other screwed millions upon millions from people all over the country, not to mention completely fabricated the CA energy crisis.

ironman · 07-21-2004, 02:01 PM

I bet that's going to be the best decorated prison ina merica

07-19-2004, 11:25 AM	#41 (permalink)
blindawg Lord over all I survey Location: Northern Michigan	$ = Freedom (or lesser sentence) Unfortunatly nearly anythign can be bought now days.. __________________ ( • Y • ) I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. ( • Y • ) - Jack Handey

07-19-2004, 08:28 PM	#44 (permalink)
whocarz Jarhead Location: Colorado	Right and wrong are determined by society at large, so in answer to your question, yes, it would. __________________ If there exists anything mightier than destiny, then it is the courage to face destiny unflinchingly. -Geibel Despise not death, but welcome it, for nature wills it like all else. -Marcus Aurelius Come on, you sons of bitches! Do you want to live forever? -GySgt. Daniel J. "Dan" Daly

07-21-2004, 05:23 AM	#46 (permalink)
anitra Upright Location: missouri	she's a very successful woman. i believe our society can't handle that. she has made her success on stereotypical female traits ~ celebrating femininity. again screwing a woman for being female. i'll be interested to see what happens to kenneth lay. __________________ i'm a monkey just swingin through the trees

07-21-2004, 06:08 AM	#47 (permalink)
Stompy Banned from being Banned Location: Donkey	hahaha, I think it's hilarious when people say "society can't handle powerful women". What year is this? In any case, she broke the law. Wealthy successful woman aside, if you break the law, you get a punishment. In this case... her punishment is a mere slap on the wrist compared to what normal people would get (if you don't believe me, just try some insider trading scheme and see what happens). She had stock in her OWN company, knew that the FDA was gonna deny the drug that was coming out, and then sold stock. How is that not illegal? Whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant in the eyes of the court. Their job is to uphold the law. She got off easy, which pretty much proves that society has no problem with a wealthy woman. If society was pissed at a wealthy woman, she'd probably be in prison for life. No one mentions the fact that she has stabbed many people in the back, stepped on many toes, and made many people's lives a living hell to get where she is! Of course Kenneth Lay will get a hefty sentence. His involvement in Enron, which was a MUCH bigger scheme than Martha Stewart's ordeal. What else would you think will happen to him? What does Ken Lay have to do w/ anything? Two people broke the law, one happened to sell stock in her own company upon acquiring knowledge that would make shareholders sell, the other screwed millions upon millions from people all over the country, not to mention completely fabricated the CA energy crisis. __________________ I love lamp. Last edited by Stompy; 07-21-2004 at 06:13 AM..

07-21-2004, 02:01 PM	#48 (permalink)
ironman Smithers, release the hounds Location: Guatemala, Guatemala	I bet that's going to be the best decorated prison ina merica __________________ If I agreed with you we´d both be wrong

07-19-2004, 07:54 PM	#43 (permalink)
Fearless_Hyena Hello, good evening, and bollocks. Location: near DC	If something is wrong, but is common, does that make it any less wrong?