SaltPork

Yep, after nine years of close calls and heart stopping encounters it finally happened. I got a speeding ticket. I had done so well not getting caught. My radar detector had saved my ass a number of times. I felt strong, invincible some might even say.

I was pinched by the long arm of the law today on my way home from work. I was doing 57 mph in a 35 mph zone....not good. I was driving with all the windows down, had the stereo blasting and couldn't hear the radar detector going off. By the time I noticed the RD freaking out at me it was too late. The cop had his lights on and I just pulled over, because come on, I knew I was speeding and he knew I was speeding.

Since I was in a small town in NH I expected the worst, but coming from a family with law enforcement in it's blood I was hoping for the best. It turns out that the cop didn't give me an attitude, I didn't give him any excuses. This was the conversation:
Cop: YOu know why I pulled you over?

Me: Yep, I was going WAYYYY to fast...There is no excuse that I can give for my excessive speed. I won't even waste your time with that crap.

Cop: *a bit shocked* Okay...You were going 57 in a 35, not much break I can give you buddy. No excuse for 22 mph over, if it were 15 I would cut you some slack, but 22...can't do anything about that, be right back.

(15 minutes later)

Cop: Here's your summons, take it a little slower. Hey one more thing, how much did you spend for that radar detector?

Me: Not nearly enough

We chuckled together, it was a moment, but there I was with an $86.40 ticket....thank God I live in NH.

Anyone else have tickets recently? What was your experience with the officer that pulled you over?

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Averett

Surprised he didn't take the radar away... Are they legal in NH?

I got a ticket for failure to stop at a stop sign a few months back. Total bullshit, and $105 to boot.

Just this past Friday I was flying on I-90 just to the west of Albany. I had my seatbelt off, adjusting my top.... And the cop pulled right behind me. I thought I was screwed. But he instead followed the car ahead of me off of the next exit. Phew.

But my shirt was one of those tie at the neck kinds.. with nothing under. Surely I could have gotten away with speeding with a shirt like that?

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I've been driving for almost 3 years, so far, not a ticket. Someone up there must be very fond of me.
My brother on the other hand, got pulled over right in front of our house, talk about bad luck!

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I'd let you off

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dirtyrascal7

averett -- radar detectors are only illegal in virginia (and DC, i believe).

my advice to you, wrkime, is to go to the court hearing rather than just pay the ticket. i recently got a ticket completely dismissed because i showed up to contest it but the officer did not. the other time i got a ticket and went to court for it, i asked for a plea bargain... i paid more money (still only $160 total) and got it reduced to "parking ticket status", which means it was off my record the very next day.

my only other advice is to buy a good radar detector... and by that i mean a valentine one. i consistently get warning over a full mile ahead of where the cop is... and since cops typically radar at distances of around 1/4 mile, i have plenty of time to slow down before getting nabbed.

present_future

I just went to court yesterday for my first speeding ticket. The cop caught me going 57 in a 45. Total bullshit. I was going with the flow of traffic and for some reason he picks me out of the whole crowd.
It cost me $119, ($75 for the ticket and $44 for supervision.) If I don't get another ticket in three months, the supervision will take my speeding ticket off of my record, saving me money on my insurance.

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Quadraton

I know this is going to make me the evil bad guy in this thread, but if you're speeding, regardless of what other people are doing, then you really have no excuse. I hate speed limits as much as the next guy, but you can't pick and choose the laws you decide to obey. I'm not saying don't ever speed. All I'm saying is, if you get caught, then you really don't have any reason to complain.

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ngdawg

Just last week, driving through a local park on the way to work:

He: Ma'am, you know why I pulled you over? You were doing 41 in a 25.
Me: (searching for the required ID's) 41???? I am so sorry, sir, my mind just wasn't on what I was doing. Uh, who's on desk this morning?
He: Why? Who do you know in the ***** police dept?
Me: Well, LT GM.
He: And how do you know him?
Me: We've been friends for almost 30 years. GAWD! He is going to KILL me when he finds out!! (slight chuckle)
He: Well, the Lt. is a fine gentleman. I'll be right back.
He: (returning to my car) Just so happens, today Lt. is on desk, Ma'am. So, I'll let you go with a warning-this is a park and there are a lot of joggers and people on bikes. So be careful, ok?
Me: I will! Thank you! But he's still going to kill me when he finds out! (nervous laugh)
I do no more than 30 through the park now......

That was the second time in less than 2 months I managed to get out of a ticket. Other time I was pulled over for using the shoulder as a turning lane. Officer said he didn't want to ticket a town citizen. Luck?( probably) Looks? (doubt it!)The Car? (pretty, but...) Being so sincerely apologetic? ( I WAS!) Whatever...it worked!

Destrox

This was a few years back, but i got caught going 53 in a 25...

Yeah, I got let of INSANELY EASY! I got ticketed, dont get me wrong, but no court summon!

Was only a 150$ ticket, and a assload more insurance.

Beats losing the license or going to court tho.

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oushi

Heh, I'm with you Quad. Just consider tickets as punishment for all the times you broke the law and didn't get caught.

phredgreen

heh. back in january, bluebongo and I drove out here from arizona, and we took turns leading, up until tucumcari, new mexico. it was getting pretty late and we were just getting ready to pull off the highway for the night, bluebongo was in the lead. i'm inclined to use my cruise control when i'm in the lead, but she just wanted to get there, and with her in the lead, i had to keep up. we pass aon overpass, and i catch sight of him. it was dark, but as soon as we passed by, he was pulling onto the road and i knew he was coming after us. to my suprise, he blows right by me, pulls in behind her, and flips his copstop lights on. being the loyal boyfriend i am, i pulled in back behind him so we wouldn't get insanely separated, and to my suprise, he approached my car. he asked me what i was doing, my simple reply was "i'm with her," so he took my driver's licsense and told me to pull in front of him. he proceeded to ticket both of us, saying he radared us both going 88 (in a 75), and we both drove away with 80 dollar fines. what a way to begin a move, no?

for the rest of the way out here, i led with my cruise control pegged to the speed limit.

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Menoman

Your on a highway, speed limit 65.. flow of traffic is 85-90 miles an hour. (Which happens quite often on some of the highways north of where I live)

You gonna feel safe going 65 with people flying past you and up on your ass at 90 miles an hour?

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I had a great experience when I was in high school. It was my birthday (summer), I had just received a really nice watch as a present the day before and broke it the next afternoon before I had to go to work. I picked up my two buddies who also worked with me at the local office supply store, but we were running late. The only way to the store was a street with stop signs about ever 1/8 mile. The road was probably 3-3.5 miles long. So I was pissed about having to work, running late and breaking my new present. So, the speed limit on this road is 25 mph and we happened to get behind some joker doing about 12-15 on this one lane road. It was around 5:45 pm and (45 minutes late) and I had no time for his old-fart driving tactics. So I gunned it to about 55-60 and passed him in the middle of the four way intersection while he was stopped at the stop sign and continued on. Little did I realize, that at the next visible stop sign, about 80-100 feet away, there was an undercover 5-0 watching everything I just did. I got to the next sign and saw that this dope was still sitting there. I had a bad feeling.

Just then he runs his siren and yells out the window for me to pull over. Crap. I pull off onto a side street and he comes up next to me and does the routine, Drivers License, insurance, blah blah blah. He asked me if I knew why he pulled me over and I gave him the story of me being late on my birthday to work, breaking my new watch, etc. So he said he would be right back. After about 5 gruelling minutes he comes back and gives me license back and says, "Well, everything checks out, so don't ever pull that stupid-ass stunt again".

Holy shit! it was like a weird dream, and the only thing I can think of was that I didn't have any other tickets and he was just about to get off his shift and didn't want to do any more paperwork.

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Quadraton

What I'm really trying to point out here is that, as the law is written, if you're going faster than the posted speed limit, you are speeding. If everybody else is going faster than the posted speed limit, that doesn't change the fact that, as the law is written, you are still speeding. So, if you get pulled over, you get pulled over because you were speeding.

Following the flow of traffic doesn't suddenly change the law. There is no provision that states that it's not speeding if everybody else is going faster than the speed limit.

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Scheme

A few months back I was driving back to my mates place at about 1am on a thursday night, being a thursday quite a few people go out drinking and on one particular road which i had to go down there was a checkpoint. Because I was on my resticted licence (not allowed to drive passengers or drive between the hours of 10pm - 7am) I was scared shitless, they had chosen a perfect place too, right at the start of a motorway, so with a divider in between the lanes I couldn't pull a U-Turn without them seeing me and following me, so in the end I just drove though, they asked my name and address, I hadnt drunk anything so they just let me through. I was so relieved that they wernt checking for licences too

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about time. That added ten or fifteen m.p.h on a slow street is all the difference in the world when a child or a dog run in the road.

Oh,and


At's right.

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denim

That's so bogus. You were going the normal speed for an interstate in that state, as far as I've been able to tell. And I've been there.

nonsensical

yeah, the last time I drove through NM (mumble mumble years ago) there were only two cops, one on each side of Albuquerque. And *fast* driving everywhere else.

DelayedReaction

Just be glad he didn't give you anything harsher. I've never been ticketed (knocks on wood), but it's always something I keep my eye out for.

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phyzix525

The only reason I would complain is cause they always seem to happen right when you don't have any money to pay for them. Plus here in OK the tickets are really high. or so they seem. I know the radar scramblers are illegal, not sure about the detectors though.

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In California it has been contested that if everyone is going faster than the speed limit and you are going at the speed limit you are causing a hazard to other drivers.

Basic speed laws of California is:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc22350.htm

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SaltPork

I don't think that gives you carte blanche to speed though. If the speed limit is 55 and you're doing 80, aren't you still speeding??? I think a lot of you are trying to justify the fact that you drive faster than the speed limit...don't. I do it, you do it, a lot of people do it, but don't try to justify it by saying that you were going with the flow of traffic and that to do otherwise would be creating a hazard. I'm sure if you were driving 55 on the highway where the speed limit was 55 then you would not be ticketed for causing a hazard.

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ratbastid

Here's whatcha do.

Go to court. The first thing that will happen is, you'll stand in a long-ass line for a meet-and-greet with somebody from the District Attorney's office. What you say to them is that, given your clean record, you'd like a continuance. In some jurisdictions this is called a "Prayer for Judgement Continued", or "PJC'.

Most likely they'll have no problem with that. Then you'll go sit down with the riff-raff, and the judge will come in. When your name is called, you go up to the bench and say in a proud, clear voice that you request a PJC. The judge will ask the DA how they feel about that and they'll say it's fine. The judge will bang her gavel and your ticket will go away never to be heard from again. You'll pay court costs, but your insurance company won't ever know about it.

Here in Durham County, NC, you get one PJC per household every three years of clean records.

merkerguitars

Holy shit....that is a cheap ticket....hey atleast you had a nice long streak of not getting a ticket, I guess where all bound to someday. Gotta love a cop that respects honesty.

In Wisconsin if you got a ticket like that it would be $300+, 6 points off or if the cop wanted to be mean he could revoke the license right there.

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Cynthetiq

if your speed was causing a hazard then yes, according to my law enforcement friends when I was living in CA. It also explains why some states have MIN speed posted signage as well.

I did not say carte blanche, but that there is also another viewpoint that could be construed as correct in some situations.

SaltPork

I've already paid the ticket. I'm not interested in trying to get out of it. I was speeding, I got caught, I got a ticket because I deserved it. It's called taking responsibility for my actions. Why would I try to get out of a ticket that was deserved?

I know some of you had good intentions with your suggestions on "getting out of it" but I'm not interested, thanks anyway. I knew I was speeding, I knew on that road there was a chance of getting caught, I took the chance anyway. Chances are the points won't hit my license and my insurance company will never know.

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water_boy1999

The only ticket I have ever had for speeding was because I sped up for a brief moment to check out a girl in a car that passed me. The cop was on motorcycle and saw the whole thing. He comes up to me and says, "I hope she was worth it." I asked what, and he pointed out that he was going to chase her down, but my sudden burst of speed to catch up to her was faster than she was going, so he decided to pull me over instead. Damn women!!!

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Quadraton

The same laws also state:

Section (b) is basically supposed to be the trump card, which states that, in spite of any other law that might have been written, you cannot go faster than 55 miles on a highway unless otherwise posted. I'm far from being a lawyer, but the way those laws are written, they look like they're left so wide open to interpretation, it all depends on the now the judge feels.

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Scorps

LOL I had 3 cop's follow me home at 2am...my parents where wondering what was going on.....they didn't need 3 cops, damn cabby was tail gating me so Igave him the brakes so he called the cops.

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pig

I've had multiple tickets in my time, and I've been let off for some things I could have sworn I was going to jail for. I got a ticket once outside of Augusta, GA on my way to pay a ticket when I was about 19, with my mommy in the car with me. That was fun.

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BigGov

I got pulled over for going 42 in a 25. I knew I was going to get a ticket so I didn't give the guy any bullshit, he wrote it up as a 35 in a 25, knocking the fine down to something like $133 or something.

Cut to two years later, pulled over in front of the same place, for going 30 in a "school zone". If that's not the biggest load of shit ever I don't know what is. It was during my senior year, and I had never, in my entire life seen anyone drive 20, let alone under 15. He let me off though, I don't know why, maybe he saw the ticket I had before, that I was pulled over in the exact same spot two years earlier and got ticketed for a 25. Or maybe the fact in one direction there isn't even a sign saying it's a school zone.

Worthless speed limit...

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dirtyrascal7

why can't we have digital speed limit signs... ones that whatever police officials are cruising the area can change based on time of day or traffic congestion, or even have signs that can "see" and are self-sufficient at determining an appropriate speed limit. that way, when there isn't a lot of traffic, people can go faster than 55mph when it's actually safe to do so... and during rush hour, the speeds can be lowered.


oh... and i think cops should start ticketing people more for people driving in the left lane when they obviously aren't passing anyone, and when someone pulls into the left lane to pass as someone is coming up behind them going at a higher rate of speed.

primal

Why don't you just send them a check everytime you speed then? Why make them go through the trouble of writing you a ticket when you already know you were speeding?

I'm just being sarcastic there. My real point is that most people realize that speeding tickets are just revenue streams for the goverment. It's a money game to the state. The whole reason why you can get out of the tickets in court is becuase it makes the state more money. They don't really care about safety or they'd concentrate on unsafe driving. It's been proven in study after study that higher highway speeds are not significantly more unsafe than the current speed limits. Just look at the autobahn. Americans are not required to demonstrate an adequete driving skillset to maintain a license. That's what really makes driving dangerous in america.

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Fallon

Heh, I used to be a police explorer in a small town in NH =p. The old cops in town would let people go up to 65 in a 50 before they'd pull them over.
wrktime, if you ever go to Concord, remember, do not speed by the Ice Skating rink because there's ALWAYS a cop sitting at the bottom.

Fallon

Yes it's revenue, in NH espically. The training academy is paid for by speeding tickets. I'm sure there are also more studies stating that higher speeds cause more accidents. If you follow the law, then you won't be paying for a ticket or court apperance. I've been driving for almost 3 years now and I haven't gotten a ticket yet. I'm also in my early 20's in the age where you see mostly males flying down the road. When I drive, I'll usually go 5-8 over the limit because I know many cops, unless they are anal, won't pull you over because it's more paperwork then it's worth. Hell my fiancee drives faster then I do, and that's why she has two tickets.

primal

I'm sure that you are right about there being studies going both ways. I think that will always be a contested issue. But you can't ignore that places with less restrictive speed limits don't have statisticly more fatalites or accidients when compared to America. I think that the lack of drivers education and the ease of getting a drivers license are much more important factors than speed. And those factors that could greatly increase the safety of our roads are being largely ignored.

I personally speed a lot. But I haven't had a ticket in 10 years. I would rather have the speed limits removed and have police officers make judgement calls on unsafe driving. They can just make drivers licenses cost $80/year so they still get their money. I rather have the police doing their jobs instead of trying to fill some arbitrary quota to pay the bills.

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Halx

This is my favorite story to tell. It took me 4 pull overs to finally get a ticket.

First pull over: It was 7am on a Sunday and there was not a car on the road... except me. I was in a 94 Honda Accord... 4cyl, 130hp. I wanted to see how fast I could get it going. I came to a stretch of freeway that's basically all down hill for 2 miles and slammed the gas. With the help of inertia, I slowly crept up to 140mph! The car was shaking, I was freakin' out. I slowly let off the gas as I approached the bottom of the hill, but it didn't slow me down much. I was going about 120 when I noticed a car with hazard lights at the bottom of the incline. I just cruised, wondering if I should stop and help, but by the time I was close enough to make out what kinda car it was, it was too late. I passed the cop at 90mph.

He pulled me over. This was my first time, so I was scared and nervous. I lied that I was late to pick up my mom to go to the airport. I know he didn't buy it, but it turns out, he didn't have his radar gun out the clock me, so he had nothing. He just let me go with a warning. "If I see you speeding around here again, I'm not gonna be so easy on you."


Second: Several months later. It was either labor day weekend or memorial day weekend. I don't know which one, but the cops were out looking for drunk drivers. I was going about 85 down the same stretch of freeway that I got pulled over the first time. 80 is about normal for that area, so I was surprised when the cop pulled me over. He came up to me and I was honest this time. "Sorry, I just let it creep a little high." He explained that he was just looking for unsafe drivers and he was pretty nice with me. He said this, "Give me one good reason why I shouldn't give you a ticket." I thought for a moment, "I was following all of the other rules." He grinned at me and let me go.


Third: It was about 10:30 at night, I was coming home from class and I was going about 100. Ahead of me, I saw 3 cars, triple wide across the freeway, going about 70. I chose the fast lane and approached, riding up the ass of this car. I wanted him to MOVE out of my way!! So he speeds up promptly and changes lanes. It wasn't until I passed him that I realized the ugly truth. It was a cop!

On came the lights and I moved over to the shoulder. I had just ridden up a cop's ass at 100mph and tried to bully him. I was so dead. He came up to me, but he wasn't in uniform. He asked me to explain myself and I just said, "I'm sorry, man, I just got out of class and I just really wanted to get home." And.... he took it. He told me to slow down and drive safely the rest of the way. Nice.


Fourth: I was driving out in the desert toward Las Vegas, following a cop with a bunch of other travelers. The cop got off the freeway 'cause he was being crowded and there was no chance he could catch a speeder with both lanes plugged by tailgating minivans and SUVs. I should have been smart. I should have used my brain. The cop had gotten off at some middle of nowhere exit that contained absolutely no civilization whatsoever. I sped up anyways.

Blazing across the desert at 90mph, I passed everyone I came across. I was even in a marked construction zone, even though there were no crews out. Then I saw it... the cop in my rear view mirror. I slowed down to 65 quickly, but apparently, he had all ready got my number and the lights went on. He pulled me over and I tried to pull the nice, respectful, patient and regretful routine with him, but it was not to be. After about 30 minutes of waiting, he came back with a ticket for speeding (he knocked off the part about it being in a construction zone) and a fix-it ticket for the tint on my front windows.

The bastard had just gotten off the freeway to double back on me. He had trailed me for 10 miles. I was sunk.

Oh well.

FYI, I never speed on surface streets. You'll never catch me going 57 in a 35.

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bermuDa

heh good stories hal ^_^

I've only driven for about a year and a half but I have yet to have a run-in with the 5-0 which is surprising cause everyone thinks I drive like a maniac (I think it's just cause my car looks like it can't go as fast as I can take it).

My policy is stick with traffic, don't get overtaken unless it's by +10mph, but don't be the fastest guy on the road.

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I've been pulled over 3 times. First 2 times within 2 weeks of each other, both resulted in tickets. That sucked.

First one was in Iowa, I didn't see where he'd come from but I must have recently passed someone and he had to have passed several before I realized he was behind me. 82 in a 60. Since I was nice (as it was my first, I was really polite and couldn't believe it was happening to me, you know, 18 and invincible) and from out of state, he dropped it to a 80 in a 60, meaning that I didn't have to actually show up in court in a couple weeks when I wasn't going to be in Iowa any more. Coming back to court for a ticket in another state would have sucked so bad. The ticket was somewhere near $60, I think.

I obeyed every sign I passed after that.

However, that was not entirely the case. The next ticket was later that week or the next week- on the way home from Iowa, outside of Kansas City on the Interstate. That time I was following my friends, who seemed to really like driving fast. I wasn't much for it, but I didn't want to lose them. So I tried to keep up and sped. I think the HP was on a down ramp of an exit, I never saw him until he had been behind me for a while. Pulled over. If I couldn't believe the first one, I was really in shock over this one. Two tickets in two weeks. I'd been driving for a couple years at that point, I guess I thought I really was invincible. Again, I 'm not one for getting angry, I was just in disbelief at my recent streak of really bad luck. 91 in a 70. I tried to explain that I was following (and now rapidly losing) my friends and was even stupid enough to say "This is my second ticket in 2 weeks" to which the officer dished out the old cliched "You should have learned from the first one". Mucho suckage. $145, and I had to show up for court on this one. Anything over 20 MPH apparently has to.

I was scared to death of what *this* would do to my insurance.

When I got home I looked up my options online for what to do with the tickets. One of those sites had the now busted Urban Legend "send in more than the amount of the ticket, they will have to send you a check, don't cash it! If they can't close the case, it won't go on your record!". I did that for the Iowa one. I got the check back, never cashed it (I still have it in a folder somewhere, I think). As of this day, I have yet to find out if it showed up on my record, and have changed insurance companies a couple times, no one has mentioned it or upped my rates. Still crossing my fingers :-)

For the KC ticket, I looked up hired and hired a local lawyer in the area. They were able to get the ticket reduced to a "Faulty equipment - non-moving violation" that wouldn't show up as an insurance problem. That was an owie $300 lawyer fee. I felt it was better than having jacked insurance rates for the next 7 years, so I think it was worth it. I also paid over the ticket amount, just to be safe ;-)

Third and most recent was in town, going home for lunch, coasting down a hill in a semi-residential area. The cop was at the bottom of the hill. I was so close to my house that after the cop caught up from flipping his U-turn I was already home. Tthe limit was 25 and I did 36. He was really nice, and just gave me a warning because it was the first time in a long time, and said they'd keep the record for any other in town violations.

So, any more, I don't do anything over 9 MPH over the limit. That and I have a similar policy to bermuDa.

I have heard that some people treat their tickets like a hunting permit. They just pay their Speeding Fee when they get pulled over.

Ah well, that's enough of me blathering. Carry on, folks... Carry on...

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