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I don't think that 6 days is that long to wait. On the other hand, if the pets owners had their pets properly licensed, tagged and collared, then it's a non-issue.

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In Oklahom if a dog bites someone it has to be quarantined for 10 days before it can be put down.

I think people should have those little tracking microchips inserted into their pets so that even if they get out, they can still be identified. There are to many stray animals that will never make good pets.

Don't get me wrong, I like animals and I have pets of my own but facts is facts and life is hard.

Ohhh....turn it into a revenue making venture. Catch the strays and sell them to the Korean's. Bad dog make good soup.

PS, whoever wrote that needs a spell checker to catch all the typo's.

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Don't kill them at all.


Put them up for adoption.

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Forsaken

I have pets and I think 3 days is enough time for someone who cares about thier pet to check the shelters to see if they have found it. The cost saving is enough for me to support the change.

I agree that having the pet properly licensed and tagged is the way to protect your pet.

hrdwareguy

The problem is the adoption centers become overcrowded with all the animals. Even after the unadoptable ones are removed, there are still to many to try and find homes for.

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analog

I love animals, but I think 10 days and then euthanized. We do not have the money to keep every dog and cat indefinitely, waiting for someone to take them home- and many are just not domesticated animals anyway, they would not do well being in a house with people.

timalkin

It really pisses me off that people don't spay and neuter their animals. 600,000 dogs and cats are killed each year, Jesus Christ!

They should make a law to neuter and spay humans who don't neuter and spay their pets.

water_boy1999

I love animals, but the cost to keep the multitudes of them is coming out of our pockets. I would have to agree that, as harsh as this may be, there has to be some better way to keep the strays to a minimum.

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StormBerlin

When I first read the title of this thread, I thought the topic was going to be about death row executions.... which I am in more favor of speeding those up.

As for the animals, I understand the Governors logic. It's also sad to say that a humane death is better than unidentified time in a cage.

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maleficent

$14 million dollars is not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things.

Currently, what are the number of animals that are in the shelters, that are either returned to their rightful owner - -after how many days are the animals usually picked up? Does 3 extra days really give them a lot of extra time.

"Don't mess with pets" said one woman, if these pet owners really loved their mets, wouldn't they take steps to make sure that if their pet was lost, it would be returned? Microchipping isn't that expensive, collars can fall off.

That's 600, 000 dogs and cats in California alone. and I agree...

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pig

Man, thinking about cute little animals being euthanized is such a bummer...however, I'm wondering if you couldn't have a 3 day limit on dogs, and a 6 day limit on cats. I know a lot of people who have cats that roam sometimes for several days, and the owner might not realize that they'd been picked up for a while.

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Bobaphat

Everyone who works in those shelters knows the difference between an adoptable pet and one that is not. I think that the shelters should be able to make the call based on the space available and the adoptability of the pet. If they know a dog is flat out not adoptable, put it down sooner. If a dog is likely to be adopted with more time, then hold them longer.

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Hwed

I think the folks who are up in arms about this should all pitch in and privately establish a fund to pay for the cost of keeping unwanted animals alive... see how long their resolve holds up when the money to fund this isn't coming out of government coffers (i.e. taxes collected primarily from a wealthy few).

It's easy to get up in arms about something like this based on the way you feel, but it's another thing when it hits you in the wallet. There are better ways for the government to spend OUR money than to keep a bunch of unwanted animals alive a few extra days.

Bill O'Rights

Ouch! Harsh...but a very good point.

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MSD

As much as I would love to save every animal, I think that $14M could be put to much better use saving people, or putting a few extra dollars in the pockets of underpaid low-level government workers, or school funding. I honestly don't think that most of the animals that aren't picked up after 3 days would be picked up before 6.

I think that microchips should be mandatory; my cat has gotten a foot stuck in his collar and probably limped around on three legs for hours before we saw him and helped him out, so a collar with tags isn't a good idea for him, especially because of his fondness of the woods and tree-climbing (even with breakaway collars, I'm worried I'd find him hanging from a branch.)

maleficent

The 2002 census had just over 35 million people living in California. It's been a long day, I'm going to make the math easy on me and say that 40 percent of them are pet owners, so 14 million people own pets. Maybe that number is high, but it's my example.

So, 14 million people pick up the 14 million tab (that's 1 buck per person - 39 cents if I made everyone in California responsible, but that seemed wrong)) but saving the animals isn't the answer, it's preventing the situation from happening to begin with. What does giving an animal an extra three days do?

Responsible pet ownership needs to happen. Spend the 14 million and make people more aware than they are. Have consquences when things happen-- do people really need to breed a generic housecat?

There are shelters that don't destroy the animals, forget about having the state be responsible and give some money to the private shelters and let them deal with it.

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wonderwench

I hate to see animals euthanized - but with overcrowding, there isn't much choice.

Fortunately, there are volunteer organizations, such as the House Rabbit Society, which recruit fosterers to take in animals that are on "death row". I have fostered bunnies and my two buns were adopted from HRS.

hunnychile

Agreed, but what if you're in Europe on business for 2 weeks (logic here) and they put down sweet little "Sparky"...C'mon, give the innocent a grace period. This is a matter of patience, tolerance and love.


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Let's pick on harmless animals. Big man. Watch, executions of criminals will be next. So Republican it's sickening.

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MooseMan3000

The main problem I have with this is that three days seems too short a time for the owners to retrieve the pet(s). For me, it's not uncommon for my cat to be gone for 2-3 days without me seeing anything of him. So the animal officer picks him up on day 1, and kills him on day 3, before I even notice he's gone? Hmm...

I think 6 days is a reasonable amount of time. It's unfortunate that they have to be put down at all, but I don't see any other solution. But three days? That's kind of like saying "if you don't pull over the within 3 seconds of the blue lights turning on, we shoot you."

OK, maybe that was an exaggeration. But the point stands. 3 days is just not long enough.

wonderwench

It is not Republican - it is a desperate measure due to the extreme budget crisis in CA. Perhaps if Gray Davis had not increased state spending by 35% during his first term (with most of the money going to pay off unions), we wouldn't be faced with this.

Instead, Davis and the state legislature treated the capital gains windfall in the late 90s as though it were an annuity - and spent it all.

hunnychile

Ohhhhh defending Gray Davis. You sap.

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Arroe

he wasn't defending him, he was doing the opposite.

if the pet has a collar then they won't be killed. 14m is a lot to spend on keeping stray animals alive for another 3 days. The Californian government REALLY has to cut costs to make up for Davis' fuck up there, so this has to be one of the things to get cut.

StormBerlin

They should START with the criminals. At least they did something WRONG in the first place. And yeah, I am a Republican but please don't generalize.

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H12

I love animals. I don't live in California.

Six days, easy.

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wonderwench

I heard on the news this AM that Ahhnold is removing this proposed budget cut - so the waiting period will not change.

Strange Famous

More serious than it sounds?

i dont know what the mood is in America, but the British public good forgive being lead into a false war, mismanagement of the economy, but would NEVER forgive small cute animals being killed. This is the ULTIMATE vote loser, and for what, 14 million???

He would be crazy to not EXTEND the number of days.

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Scorps

man animals here get a month or longer...they mostly wait to they run out of room!

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In a perfect world, a lack of red tape, messages that are immediately returned,, and no miscommunication whatsoever between animal shelters and their staff would make 3 days seem like a reasonable time. But it isn't - so 3 days isn't enough. Of course, in a perfect world, every cat and dog would have a collar and I.D. tag to eliminate any question as to how to contact the owner on Day 1.

Gotta agree with <b>Strange Famous</b> - who the hell told him the road to re-election is paved with dead puppies?

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If you love your animals, collar and/or have them chipped!!

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wonderwench

Given the vast amount of animals that are euthanized, unless one is a professional breeder, there is really not much reason not to neuter one's pets.

viejo gringo

or they could do like they did in Peoria years ago...run them all into a big net and dip them in the river for 10 minutes...

of coarse people raised hell about that, so they just backed the worck truck up and attached a hose from the exhaust to the holding room....same results---just took a little longer.

If people are not going to take care of their pets...reduce the numbers.......unless you want to kick
out a bunch of bucks to hasve someone pet them every 3 minutes....

ShaniFaye

My way of making sure my pet doesnt get picked up....Its an INDOOR only pet. Any cat I have ever had has been a house cat, I know other people let their pets out and if that works for them great, but my cats have always been considered one of my "kids" and I couldnt imagine letting them be in a position where they could roam around outside and not be seen for 2 or 3 days at a time.

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bernadette

yup, i just read so much in yesterday's newspaper:

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hunnychile

Thank God Arnold has kids and a heart. Thanks Bern, for this update. I haven't read all my Sunday papers yet...but look forward to the revised information.

Now, let's redistribute big money to the schools. (IN CA. and all the states!)

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hunnychile

Luckily the pet waiting period issue worked out, so that Arnold isn't going to change this to 3 days only for holding the pets.

Now let's bash him for giving all his workers raises just weeks ago and still being unable to agree (on a balanced buget) and meet the deadline for submission for 'said' budget.

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animosity

well, 3 days seems like plenty of time to me. but i am a little bias because i hate animals. i wouldnt mind seeing them killed the first day.
its not the end of the world. another dog or cat just like your little fur ball will be born in approx 2 sec.

Reese

I'm from the country, It's not uncommon here for a pet to be gone 4-5 days and show back up. One time I even had a dog come home after like 4 months.

I think people that ARE going to call the animal shelter to see if their pet has been picked up are likely to wait until the last minute and it doesn't matter if it's three or six days.

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Willy

Hehe, I don't think "puppy-killer" is the image most politicians are going for. I do think 3 days is enough time for people to check the animal shelter if their pet runs away though.

Blackthorn

At the same time by lowering the number of days a stray is kept they should also make it easier using today's technology to register your missing pet. Link the shelters up on a network and post photos of your spot, bootsie, or jamal and let the owners search and hopefully match them up.

A) Keep your pets tagged, the implants are easy nowadays
B) Be a responsible pet owner and know where your poochie or coochie is hanging out.
C) Spay or neuter your pet to keep them from randomly over copulating and populating.

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