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TOKYO, Japan (Reuters) -- A Japanese teenager was forced by his teacher to write an apology in blood after dozing in the classroom, the school's principal said on Monday.

The teacher later went to high school principal Hiroaki Dan and confessed what he had done, Dan told Reuters.

The teacher had apologized to the 17-year-old boy and his parents, Dan said, confirming a local media report of the incident, which happened last Thursday.

He said the boy was taken to the staff room of the school in Fukuoka City, southern Japan, after being caught asleep during a lesson. The 40-year-old male teacher handed the boy a box-cutter and paper and told him to write an apology in blood.

The teacher left the student, who then cut his finger and began to write an apology using his own blood.

Other teachers in the staff room did not notice what was happening, Dan said.

"To ask a student to write in their own blood is something I just can't imagine," he said.

He said the boy was back in school, and neither he nor his parents had asked to switch teachers. The teacher involved is expected to resume classes in a few days, Dan said.




Last part italicized for effect. I'm flabbergasted the guy is basically getting a slap on the wrist and the kid is still gonna be in his class! Japanese kids must be very submissive for this to happen anyway. Can you imagine this happening in America? The kid would prolly take the razor, punch the teacher till he fell, and then carve the apology in his chest.

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StormBerlin

Well, I bet he's never going to fall asleep in class again....

But anywho, that was a little excessive. I'm kind of surprised the parents didn't request him to be moved.

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maleficent

.... and some folks got upset about a little bit of soap on a kids lip for using a bad word



Does Japan have the discipline problems in the classroom that we do in the US?

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animosity

this is good, that is the kind of disciplinei like to see, keep up the good work japan!

water_boy1999

This is an amazing story to me because it clearly shows the differences in culture from the U.S.. To the Japanese, they are probably thinking, good teacher......disciplining the student and making him understand the importance of a good education.

I think this may be a little harsh for our culture, but I do think we need to step up and do more and not have a lawsuit every time a student has a bar of soap put in their mouth.

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KellyC

Those kind of stuff happens a lot in Asia. A while ago, I read in a vietnamese newspaper about a teacher who made her student eat the eraser of the pencil, because she was supposed to write in pen. Students are required to write in pen in vietnam...

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cowudders14

It said the teacher apologised so it's evidently too far for them but I suppose the sheer fact that doing something like that even went through the teachers mind shows the culture diference. I don't think we should go that far, but I do think it'd do this country (UK) good if we were to bring back the cane. I say this from personal experiance - I was a daydreamer at school and I think, had I been caned, I would have got better degree and wouldn't have been kicked out of my first uni...

Recently a bill went hrough parliment to ban parents from smacking their kids. Mercifully it got voted down. Stil scary though...

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Bill O'Rights

Damn you maleficent!! You beat me to it!

To answer your question...I can't, for the life of me, imagine that they do.

Personally, I think that there is a happy medium, somewhere between the two cultures, where you would see the most effect for the effort.

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KellyC

You're right, it doesn't happens as much as I'd like to think it happens....

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pig

Man, I must be the outcast here. I don't want anyone at my school hitting my kids, or putting the old Octagon in their mouths. Let me do it, if it needs to be done. Then again, I guess things have changed when I went to school. I can't really imagine having to go through metal detectors to get into the little suburban highschool I went to, but they're up there now. Weird.

Out of curiosity, what's the suicide rate for Japanese kids these days? I read somewhere that there was something of a cultural backlash against the rigidity of their school system.

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bermuDa

I've heard that there is a huge discipline problem in Japanese schools. The parents blame the teachers, and the teachers blame the parents, and nothing gets done about it.

Seems like there is either a total lack of discipline, or in this case, an excess of it.

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kutulu

IMO, the teacher would deserve it for making such a request. Besides, the teacher didn't specify whose blood was to be used.

I would not stand for anyone other myself or my wife laying a finger on my kids. Violence is not a necessary means of punishment and it can teach them that problems should be solved with violence.

degrawj

all sorts of crazy shit goes on in Japan that would never go on in the United States. their culture is almost incomprehensibly different than ours.

Journeyman

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...threadid=57749

Which has a link to this: http://www.news.com.au/common/story_...55E401,00.html

Which says this.

So yeah, GOOD FUCKING EXAMPLES YOU ARE SETTING, JAPANESE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM!

Sorry. I won't yell anymore.

analog

Wow. That's pretty fucked up.

I think if that happened, i'd just walk out to the principal, tell him/her, and then my parents. My mom would beat the shit out of that guy verbally, if not physically as well.

H12

See: Pokemon...oh, wait, we got that too now.

In all seriousness, that's fucked up. I can't possibly see how that was tolerated, but I guess it's just that big a difference inbetween our cultures.

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timalkin

I wonder how long the apology was. That kid probably had to use a lot of blood.

This seems more like some kind of POW torture than punishment in an educational system.

MooseMan3000

Just because some Japanese guy is fucked up doesn't make putting soap in someone's mouth OK. Say JoeBob anally raped your daughter. Would it then be OK if JimmyJoe just molested her?

FUCKING NO! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING?

Physical discipline is never justified, especially not for children.

I got spanked a few times as as a child, and it only made me repeat whatever offense I was spanked for. I hit my dad back. I became MORE violent because of him.

Good job, discipline.

nanofever

My theory on Japanese culture is that their whole society is filled with insane amounts of stress, and the stress leads to all kinds of odd reactions. That stress comes from the exam system that rules the future of each Japanese citizen and the strict codes (think japanese businessman) that society seems to impose after one's education is finished.

The porn that a society produces seems to be a strangly accurate representaion of the culture. Kind of like how a Big Mac can show economic principals across international borders. Japanese porn is a great example of Japanese culture's side-effects.

I'm going to start with hentai. Hentai seems normal enough but culture dictates that you can't show genitals. Thus, you have pornography where a young girl is being gang-raped and hosed down by tentacles spewing something akin to semen, however; the girl's genitals are blurred to keep the pornography legal. Tentacle porn, along with bukkake, is a great example of repressed expression in Japan coming out itself in strange ways.

/is a wannabie porn scholar and a crackpot, take all comments at face value and if something seems like a pun, it is.

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Astrocloud

They got it all wrong... You write a contract to Satan in blood. A teacher is a poor substitute.

Paq

Umm..astrocloud...most japanese aren't christian, so they don't really have a "Satan"

as for the teacher, that's fucked up. period. i hate cutting myself, intentional or not.

and what is the old "octagon on the mouth" ?

and yes, japanese schools have an incredibly high suicide rate, higher than our state of Oregon..

and no, they don't have many discipline problems in the schools...spartan methods are pretty rough, but effective for some...

and yeah...if this happened in say..an american highschool..yeah, we'd be reading about a bit more than a teacher getting reprimanded...

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Harshaw

I'm betting Astrocloud was joking.

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anleja

In my 11th grade science class my friend didn't have a pencil to take a test, so instead of failing he jabbed his finger with a razor blade and circled his answers in blood using a straightened paper clip. It was a messy test, I'm sure it would be considered a bio-hazard, but the teacher graded it as usual and handed it back without a word of his writing implement.

ShaniFaye

for clarification of my coming post....I dont agree with the manner in which the teacher dealt with this...BUT...

Children who do not have to pay consequences for their actions have resulted in a society where the children think they can get away with anything. It results in children thinking they have the right to "reason" with the parents because parents are too afraid to deal with things. I'm 36....when I was in school paddling was still used, soap was used by my mother when I said bad words, etc. What we have now that we think that these things were horrible is a generation full of kids who (speaking in general here) have no respect for the authority of their parents or teachers, kids who think they can go and report an authority figure for anything they feel is infringing on their "free speech".

In my time, god that makes me feel old to say that, if I got disciplined in school, I was also disciplined at home. I get so sick and tired of reading how kids today can get away with showing NO respect for anyone if they dont like how something is done.v I have to sit in a resturant with todays parents letting their kids run amuck and running havoc all over the place because ANY form of discipline is considered "child abuse". I have to go to the grocery store and watch some poor mother sound like a broken record because her kid wants something she doesnt want to buy only to find her finally give in, in the name of "good parenting" because god forbid she tell her child NO.

No making the child cut himself wasnt good....but something about ya'lls reactions to this got me started on this rant. Children of today are really suffering because we let them think they have every right to be in charge. As my daddy used to tell me...If you think you know so much...there is the door, dont let it hit you in the ass...go out on your own and see if your knowledge on life is enuff to put a roof over your head and food in your mouth.

I'll hush now

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Paq

I'm sure of it.

Just wanted to comment on how much i agree with ShaniFaye...I see these kids everyday and discipline is just something they do not have. heck, i'm only 26 and i can tell you that I would have never have been allowed to act the way these children are. it's just disgusting really...

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wonderwench

To me, Japanese culture seems the anti-thesis of the persmissive strain that has taken over America - but with a parallel fucked up effect.

In the U.S., kids are allowed to act up in order to not bruise their self-esteem - the unintended consequence being that real self-esteem is never developed. In its place we have self-indulgence without a moral core - iow, decadence.

In Japan, the individual is suppressed in order to conform to society and "save face". Excessive discipline causes a lack of self-expression. The suppressed individuals then turn to perversion as an escape.

pig

I personally am in favor of kids being disciplined, but I don't want someone else giving my child physical discipline. I personally believe that there is an age where physical discipline becomes useless for everything but the most extreme cases. You have to smack a young child on the bottom - they have no idea what the hell your talking about when you reason with them. However, for most of what I consider everyday problems, I think that punishments other than physically beating your kids work better.

I agree that children these days are in need of discipline, but I think even more drastically they need interraction with adult role models. Most of children's behavior is a cry for attention, and I think that the lack of real personal attention our children receive is a much bigger problem than whether they're getting the strap enough. When it comes to reasoning with your kids, I also think that leading by example is important. Rationalizing with your kid about how they should behave themselves, when you don't follow the same rules of conduct produces problems, obviously.

Of course, in my day I had to carry buckets of lead up hills both ways, while picking out a sapling and skinning it so I could have my ass cheeks pulverized my my dad, his lips slavering with anticipation at the prospect of teaching me right from wrong. In the snow.

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Jackebear

In a word, yep.

I have been in Japan for 5 years now and teachers are like slaves there and parents all think their sons or daughters are angels.

Teachers all work about 14 to 16 hour days, weekends are taken up with club activities and they get about 5 days off in the summer while kids get 4 weeks. Parents always blame the teachers and teachers can't do anything when students act up. After trying to handle wild kids for a few years, I can understand why the teacher snapped.

My co-workers do nothing, so it is up to me to drag the kid to the vice-principal. A month ago, a crazy boy who has been trouble for years, opened the gas switches in the science room and lit a match.......BOOM!! 8 kids went to the hospital with burns. The school kept it out of the paper and police, and the boy was back at school the next day. The parents of the boy had to apologize for their son to the other parents and that was it...over.

I am not supporting what he did but I understand it. The future generation in Japan is going to the toilet. Anyhow, that's my story.

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timalkin

What makes you stay there then? I hope the pay is really good.