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OFKU0 · 06-23-2004, 06:55 PM

Have you had your shot of perchlorate today? If you live on the west coast you probably have.

See working link below

Are you people on the west coast aware? Do you care? Apparently it isn't much of a deal according to scientists. I think that was the react by some years ago pertaining to asbestos.

Of interest?

OFKU0 · 06-23-2004, 06:59 PM

Sorry link problems. See below

bermuDa · 06-23-2004, 07:05 PM

if it's an article, QUOTE THE ARTICLE.

That way link problems don't ruin the thread.

WORKING LINK

Quote:

Study finds toxic rocket fuel chemical in milk from Calif. cows
22/06/2004 3:40:00 AM
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Young children and pregnant women who drink milk from California cows may be exposed to unsafe levels of a toxic chemical used in rocket fuel, according to a new study by an environmental group.

The study released Tuesday by the Environmental Working Group comes as state and federal regulators consider setting new standards to regulate perchlorate, the explosive ingredient in missile fuel that has been linked to thyroid damage.

"Perchlorate exposure is more widespread than we have been led to believe," said Bill Walker, vice-president for the West Coast office of the EWG, a research and advocacy organization based in Washington, D.C.

The EWG did not call for Californians to stop drinking milk or giving it to their children, but said it does advocate tougher standards for perchlorate.

Perchlorate has been found in drinking water in more than 20 states, including California, which has extensive ties to the military, defence industry and the space program. The chemical has been detected in the Colorado River, the major source of drinking water and irrigation in Southern California and Arizona.

Researchers are divided about the effects of perchlorate on mental development and what exposure levels are safe.

In March, California health officials concluded that perchlorate could be dangerous at levels above six parts per billion in drinking water - a level that could be used later this year to set the nation's first state standard.

But U.S. Environmental Protection Agency officials, and some environmental groups, say that standard would be too weak. The EPA advocates a standard of just one part per billion.

The new study on milk was based on laboratory tests the EWG commissioned as well as unreleased tests by the California Department of Food and Agriculture.

The EWG tests, conducted by researchers at Texas Tech University, found the chemical in 31 of 32 samples from milk purchased at grocery stores in Los Angeles and Orange counties. The average level of the chemical was 1.3 parts per billion,

The EWG said the Food and Agriculture Department tests found an average level of 5.8 parts per billion of perchlorate in 34 samples it tested from milk silos in Alameda, Sacramento and San Joaquin counties.

Department officials confirmed those results, but spokesman Steve Lyle said the findings didn't show any need for consumers to drink less milk.

"At this point, there is not enough information to suggest that eating foods with low levels of perchlorate poses a significant health concern," Lyle said.

The EWG study didn't determine how the chemical ended up in cows milk, but perchlorate has been found in many of the state's water sources, which are used to irrigate farmland and grow crops fed to cows.

California's dairy industry will work with state and federal officials to find out how perchlorate is getting into milk and how to remove the chemical, said Michael Marsh, CEO of the Western United Dairymen, which represents the state's $4.5 billion dairy industry. But Marsh said there is a "paucity of science" showing perchlorate's harmful effects on human health.

A recent study by the University of California, Irvine, found that healthy adults were not harmed by levels as high as 100 parts per billion of perchlorate. But the study did not draw conclusions about perchlorate's impact on pregnant women, children and infants.

OFKU0 · 06-23-2004, 07:12 PM

Thank you BermuDa.

H12 · 06-23-2004, 07:18 PM

Being Tennessean is nice right about now...

...but seriously, I feel like they do so much unhealthy stuff to so much food (I firmly believe they put steroids in chicken, for example...dunno if that ever got proven or not), it's not gonna make things terribly worse for now. Longterm, however...eh, couldn't tell ya. Better look into that.

phredgreen · 06-24-2004, 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by H12
Longterm, however...eh, couldn't tell ya. Better look into that.

yeah... i'll let you know how it works out in 20 or so years.

the whole mass-produced meat/dairy phenomenon bothers me, but at this point, not to the extent that i can do much about it. eating healthy, non hormoneized (i made that up, if anyone else ever uses it i get a nickel per use

) range-fed meat and dairly can be expensive, so i'm not there yet, but i'm working on it.

the other issue is groundwater, a problem that will only get better if our government drops the axe on corporations that drop nasty shit into the environment, but i don't see that happening for a while yet.

prognosis? move offworld. you might have a better chance out there.

Charlatan · 06-24-2004, 05:33 AM

When you think about the levels of lead (a highly toxic substance) in our air and water it isn't surprising that there tons of other chemicals out there that we are only generally aware of that are polluting our bodies indirectly through the food we eat adn the air we breathe...

More needs to be done to clean up the mess...

06-23-2004, 06:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
OFKU0 Junk	Got milk? Have you had your shot of perchlorate today? If you live on the west coast you probably have. See working link below Are you people on the west coast aware? Do you care? Apparently it isn't much of a deal according to scientists. I think that was the react by some years ago pertaining to asbestos. Of interest? __________________ " In Canada, you can tell the most blatant lie in a calm voice, and people will believe you over someone who's a little passionate about the truth." David Warren, Western Standard. Last edited by OFKU0; 06-23-2004 at 07:14 PM..

06-23-2004, 06:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
OFKU0 Junk	Sorry link problems. See below __________________ " In Canada, you can tell the most blatant lie in a calm voice, and people will believe you over someone who's a little passionate about the truth." David Warren, Western Standard. Last edited by OFKU0; 06-23-2004 at 07:16 PM..

06-23-2004, 07:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
OFKU0 Junk	Thank you BermuDa. __________________ " In Canada, you can tell the most blatant lie in a calm voice, and people will believe you over someone who's a little passionate about the truth." David Warren, Western Standard.

06-23-2004, 07:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
H12 I'm not about getting creamed, I'm about winning! Location: K-Town, TN	Being Tennessean is nice right about now... ...but seriously, I feel like they do so much unhealthy stuff to so much food (I firmly believe they put steroids in chicken, for example...dunno if that ever got proven or not), it's not gonna make things terribly worse for now. Longterm, however...eh, couldn't tell ya. Better look into that. __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit." --Aristotle

06-24-2004, 05:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	When you think about the levels of lead (a highly toxic substance) in our air and water it isn't surprising that there tons of other chemicals out there that we are only generally aware of that are polluting our bodies indirectly through the food we eat adn the air we breathe... More needs to be done to clean up the mess... __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke