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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...nap/index.html


this is so sad.

denim

Sad but hardly unexpected. I saw no chance of him surviving this one.

Maybe they should implant some kind of locator chip in the Americans over there.

agball

That sucks, some action must be taken - these are innocent victims, who are only trying to help.

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maleficent

This guy was living in Saudi Arabia for 10 years with a Saudi Arabian wife --

I will never understand the mindset of people who would do that to another person and the heartache it's caused to one of their own country people.

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Hey - they can do it for cars - why not people?

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Halx

Try and keep this civil. Let's not lose our heads over this.

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apeman

lol ... funny but sick, just the way i love it

um, I don't like people being beheaded, it's nasty, but exactly who was he trying to help? equally, I'm sorry for his family and I think the people who did it should be strung up by their genitals.

anyone for a "how to get ahead in Lockheed Martin" pun, anyone?

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Averett

I believe his wife is actually Taiwanise. (I probably spelled that horribly wrong,sorry)


I saw his family on the Today show the other morning. His son could barely keep it together. He got pretty angry at some point - didnt think people were doing enough to rescue his dad.

Paul Johnson isn't the first, and sadly won't be the last to lose his life in such a manner.

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denim

Given that there wasn't anything to do once he was taken, I suspect the son was correct. As far as it goes.

bookerV

its just sick to think about something like this happening. i don't understand how people can do things like that... sometimes this is a very nasty world we live in...

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sky_driver

According to the news, it seems as if Paul Johnson was beheaded by al-quaida just like Nick Berg. If so, my thoughts and prayers go out to his family.

Now, as many know, I say what my thoughts are and do not sugar coat it. So if I piss anyone off with my next thoughts, then too bad, that is the way it is.

While my prayers go out to the Johnson family, Paul had a decision to make, and his was to work in the middle east. I am sure that he could have found work here, but his choice was to stay over there.

To me, the most important things in my life are my family, and that is why I choose to live and work in America. And yes, I am American. There is no fu*king way you could ever get me to work in the middle east. I don't care for how much money. Somethings ( like life ) are more important.

Unfortunatly, I now think that there is no way terrorism will ever stop, unless America or some other pansy ass country gets some balls and starts to do something. And unfortunatly, I don't think that will happen. The worst thing to happen to our country was seeing Ronald Reagan's term as President have to end. I truly believe, if he was still president, our world would be a safer place to live. But, this is not to be.

So my advice is... just continue to look out for yourself. No one is going to be there to help you, you are going to have to do it by yourself.

This is truly another sad day in American history.

denim

If the Saudis find these assholes, the assholes will probably lose hands, then their heads in short order. I don't see a problem with that.

Halx

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water_boy1999

There are some good points here. Halx, I don't think denims point is so far fetched. Perhaps if a small monitor was placed surgically under the skin, it would make tracking of the captive, as well as the captors, that much easier. I know it is out there as far as ideas go, but on the other hand, we were not able to find Paul Johnson until it was too late.

I also know people working there make a large sum of money as contractors due to the amlount of danger they face on a daily basis. I was listening to NPR the other day and it said in a few years someone can put away their entire retirement package. This wouldn't get me to risk my life though. Also, if you are an American and living in that area, you are taking your own chances by sticking around. It is unfortunate and I am truly saddened by it, but it never would have happened if he lived in the U.S..

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Rdr4evr

Oh man, that fucking sucks. I remember hearing on the news yesterday that his deadline was today. Man, this truly blows. Now im going to be depressed all day.

Did they atleast kill him before they beheaded him?

Edit: My dumbass just saw the images of the decapatation, fuck this, im not watching the video. God damn this world.

Hanxter

i'd like to shit in their turbans

perripken

I'm sick and tired of these fucking bastards

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denim

As far as I can tell, Halx just posted a URL to this thread. I'm not sure what he was trying to say by that.

bernadette

yeah. that went over my head, too.
at first i thought well maybe it was a reminder to stay on topic, but no one really strayed from the topic. *shrug*

anyway... i don't have much faith that things in the world are going to get any better any time soon. more than likely shit's gonna get much worse.

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Karby

i gotta say...i'm not really surprised by this. as much as i hate to admit it, i kind of expected it of those psychotic freaks.

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My guess is that Halx was putting that link to this thread, as a post in another thread of the same topic, at the exact moment that I merged the two threads. Nothing more sinister than that...carry on.

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you're incriminating me!

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Shovel

This one made me sick to my stomach.

I just lost my Dad. I'm still trying to make sense of it- and this was a fact of life. My Dad, while unexpected, had a heart attack and all my family's lives are forever changed.
The Johnson family were told when he was going to die... and then they cut his head off. Those bastards made a political/religious example out of him. I can't imagine how that poor family is making any sense out of that.

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goddfather40

Drudge Report has posted pictures of the actual beheading, for those who wish to venture in that direction. Myself personally won't look at it out of respect for his family.

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hunnychile

Anyone who goes to a site that shows the actual footage of this American being killed at the hands of those criminals, isn't a real American IMO. They are using the Net to propagate more hatred and it's an abomination to "One Nation Under God". This is all so Biblical - it's just sickening. I feel they (the militant "ragheads") are asking for retribution and that's not what we, the USA - as a free country, stands for. What's it gonna take??

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jcookc6

Maybe we should consult with the UN on this, bring our French and German friends to the table, have a discussion and negotiatewith these people so that they won't do it again. Does this sound like what our liberal friends want. What would Ted Kennedy do? Impeach George Bush because he couldn't control these people. Has this even made the news on CNN, NBC or CBS?
Wake up America! It could happen here and there is nothing anyone can do. These people just hate us! They don't give a shit whether you are Liberal or conservative.

Astrocloud

Well there goes the price of Gasoline... I still think my severed head story was better.

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slimpi66y

...it's the sikhs who wears turbans, although very fuck up, the sikh religion is far from the evil spread by the Is-shitbox-Lam

qtpye4u84

Yea,a lot of sad things have been going on over there. I feel sorry for the familys.

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Rdr4evr

Apparently you are no more intelligent with comments like Is-shitbox-lam.

Anyways, they killed the saudi arabia al qaeda leader Abdel Aziz al-Muqrin. He was disposing Johnsons body when they killed him.



http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...nap/index.html

viejo gringo

Hell---no one will even remember it tomorrow....what they will

make a big fuss about is some dumb Arab being embarrassed

by making him get naked in front of a woman..

NOW THAT IS REALLY BAD---


DON'T GET MAD---GET EVEN...

and stop giving Saudia Arabia so much....until they clean up
thier act..

assilem

I'd have to agree. Although maybe the answer is not just getting mad at "liberals" or democrats (I am a registered republican). We all need to put or political differences aside and fight the war that they have been fighting against us since the 70's hostage crisis. This bipartisan crap did not happen during WWII, so why does it have to happen now. I have no problem fighting along side a democrat or even a communist for that matter.

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"Due to our world events the entire US and its Allies will be removing all troops from the Iraq area immediately. They will have 3 days to prepare for ""The Big One"" to land."

As I heard today "We can drill through glass can't we?"

Sorry, but this is getting very old and I no longer believe that we can ever live in harmony with them.

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clockworkgreen

Obviously, I'm writing from an American perspective, but from their perspective, they took out a guy who was helping to put together and fix helicopters that were taking out and attacking their people. I don't know if they wanted him for that reason or just the blanket reason that he was an American and they wanted to make an example of him. Either way, he didn't have a chance after they aired that video.

OFKU0

As much as this is abhorent on every level, this unfortunately is just another murder in the world that in days will be forgotten.

Does anyone remember, or even heard of the guy in New Jersey ( maybe Maryland,..see I already forget) as well as in California, once a couple of months ago and then this week where someone cut off someones head. Bastards.

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This may be an unpopular opinion, and certainly, Paul Johnson did not deserve to be killed or harmed in any way

BUT

Greed is a very bad thing. By working in the Middle East at a time like this, Paul Johnson put himself in an unnecessary risk over money. I have no numbers to back me up, but I assume a job like his paid quite generously, and the risk factor was probably a significant contributor to the pay, as was his skill. The same goes for Nick Berg. He chose to go to a dangerous country in order to make money installing communications towers. He took an unnecessary risk, and militants took his life. I see a parallel to rape here. Just because a woman is dressed slutty does NOT mean she should be raped. However, she is taking a very unnecessary risk, which can result in harm being done to her. NO, nobody deserved to die. NO, they did not choose to die. YES, they let greed get in the way of their safety, and they suffered for it.

I tried to state my point in a non-offensive manner, and sincerely hope that a flame war does not ensue.

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Journeyman

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=968350060724

How would they find out within 24 hours the location of a terrorist who has eluded them for, well, at least as long as it takes to become the head honcho of al Qaeda in Saudi Arabia?

I just don't buy it. I'm glad the guy's dead, but I think offing him within 24 hours of Paul Johnson's death is just a little quick to think that the Saudi's couldn't have tracked him down long before this.

Zeld2.0

It sort of goes 'eh' now after Berg and Pearl and others were beheaded - not that it isn't sad but I would imagine something different for once.

If the guy who is responsible is dead, then great - but I don't know if I can buy it. For all the intelligene in the world, neither the U.S. or the Saudis could find him - and all of a sudden he's dead at a gas station.

Prince

Yes, it's sad. It is always sad when a family loses a beloved member, for whatever reason.

Some remarks suggest that since he was working, voluntarily, in the Middle East, he was in a way "asking for it". I cannot agree with that one. Working the overnight register at a gas station is a good way to get clipped, too. You take your chances every time you get on the Interstate. So what? How can you speak of freedom, and what America and being an American stands for, and in the same paragraph suggest that someone should not exercise their freedom to travel and work where they please, but instead stay as close to home as possible and avoid any and all risks? As if that were even possible in this day and age.

It's easy to get angry and express hatred and prejudice. Much easier than to try and understand the reasons, the causes and the effects. But as soon as you take the easy way out and say, "let's bomb the fuck out of all those towelheads", you've lost all respect I've had for you.

Reacting emotionally and without fair judgment is what one can expect from Johnson's family members, and they are entitled to it. But the rest of us have to maintain our composure and keep our heads - no bad pun intended - or else we're no better than the savages who slaughter civilians to make a feeble attempt at half-assed propaganda.

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