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zxello 06-11-2004 11:51 PM

Interesting Experience today...
 
Ok.... so I had an interesting experience today and thought I'd let you all know.

I have this black belt with the metal spikes on it (from Hot Topic) and I put an Iron Cross belt buckle on it (for those of you who dont know what an iron cross is, Click Here )

So I had this on and I was walking through the mall with some friends and then all of a sudden I hear some voice shout at / around / near me 'you stupid fucking nazi'. :hmm:

My initial response was just like... ummm que? Where's the fight? Then I turn around to see whats up and theres some middle aged housewife pointing at me saying 'Yeah! You! you fucking nazi'.

So after my initial 'wtf' reaction I decided to actually ask her what she was talking about, I'm a pretty calm guy, so I wasn't just gonna turn around and start throwin punches or somethin :lol: .

So I asked her what was up, and she replied in a not-so-nice tone of voice that I was a 'fuckin nazi and I should burn in hell for wearing a swastika. :hmm:

I then proceeded to 'serve' her with some knowledge (I'm a history major)

So basically we had a back-and-forth about the fact that an iron cross is not a swastika and i explained its origins to her. Then after all that, just to prove to me how closed minded she was, she said I was just some punk kid who didn't know anything. I ended the conversation with a 'have a nice damn ma'am' and then my friends and I walked off to go chuckle about how she got served. :thumbs up:

ughhh.... moral of the story people.... please don't be closed minded pricks that feel the need to spout off about shit you have no clue about. :icare:

asudevil83 06-12-2004 01:28 AM

damn....some people are dumb.

if someone thinks an iron cross is a swastica and then goes off and calls a complete stranger a nazi.....well they deserve to be embarrassed beyond belief.

what i would have done (mind you i'm not afraid to make a point) is have that lady go up to the next 10 people she saw and ask them what a swastica was, literally explain what it looks like. then proceed to embarass her more by telling these people how fucking dumb this stupid bitch is for thinking and doing what she did.

thunder 06-12-2004 06:05 AM

Don't feel alone, a couple of years ago while at a freinds house on a lake in Texas we had the Stars and Stripes, Texas Flag and the Stars and Bars flying and a bunch of punks drove by and started yelling at us that we were fron the Klu Klux Klan. We had our kids and wives out there! But their balls showed when we offered to teach them the proper way of falling down but declined by hauling ass. Just ignorance and a knee jerk reaction combination

H12 06-12-2004 06:21 AM

To paraphrase a famous quote, since I don't remember it exactly...

"It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Now, I don't know alot of the history of the Iron Cross myself, but you don't hear me calling random people Nazis because they wear one, either. That housewife needs to tone it down a lil'.

DelayedReaction 06-12-2004 07:06 AM

Wow. I wonder how she would react if she knew that the swastika was originally a symbol of good luck. From what I understand, before the 1930's it was featured on American greeting cards and even used as a flag with the Boy Scouts.

Amusingly enough, that woman's use of unfounded fear tactics is extremely similar to a typical fascist propoganda movement. She relied on buzzwords and targeted a readily visible group of people (people with Iron Crosses and spiked collars tend to stand out).

Gotta love stupid people.

[EDIT]
Origin(s) of the Swastika:
http://ancienthistory.about.com/libr...ika_forum.htm1
[/EDIT]

SecretMethod70 06-12-2004 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by asudevil83
damn....some people are dumb.

if someone thinks an iron cross is a swastica and then goes off and calls a complete stranger a nazi.....well they deserve to be embarrassed beyond belief.

what i would have done (mind you i'm not afraid to make a point) is have that lady go up to the next 10 people she saw and ask them what a swastica was, literally explain what it looks like. then proceed to embarass her more by telling these people how fucking dumb this stupid bitch is for thinking and doing what she did.

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking he should have done. What an idiot - stupid people make me mad.

I hope she goes home, looks up swastika on the internet, and is thoroughly embarassed of herself.

Of course, that would probably require her to be open to the idea she was wrong, which I doubt she was.

perripken 06-12-2004 10:46 AM

Don't sweat it man.... some people just need a good fuck or fuck off every once in a while!

zxello 06-12-2004 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DelayedReaction
Wow. I wonder how she would react if she knew that the swastika was originally a symbol of good luck. From what I understand, before the 1930's it was featured on American greeting cards and even used as a flag with the Boy Scouts.

Amusingly enough, that woman's use of unfounded fear tactics is extremely similar to a typical fascist propoganda movement. She relied on buzzwords and targeted a readily visible group of people (people with Iron Crosses and spiked collars tend to stand out).

Gotta love stupid people.

I believe that the 'good luck' swastika was reversed, hitler reversed the original to denote the nazi-fascist government he had created.

hilbert25 06-12-2004 11:55 AM

I bet she's the kind that thinks all Germans Nazi's too. I met someone in New York City once that seriously thought German Jew was a Nazi.

It's kinda funny though that the Swastika is now taboo. If you go to any Civil War Battlefield, you'll see a ton of them on any of the flags from units that fought there. I wonder how many people are convinced that either the North or South was helped by the Nazis, depending on where they're from.

elfuq 06-12-2004 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zxello
I believe that the 'good luck' swastika was reversed, hitler reversed the original to denote the nazi-fascist government he had created.
Nah, Good Luck Swastikas went both ways. There is an amazingly detailed article on Wikipedia on the history of the symbol.

Quote:

The swastika (Sanskrit "good luck" or "well-being", literally "it is good") is a symbol which commonly appears throughout history. The name and first use of the swastika was first mentioned in the Vedas, the holy texts of Hinduism. However, while its name is Vedic, it appears in art and design throughout human history, symbolising many different things; such as luck, Brahma, the Hindu concept of samsara, or Surya (the sun).

The swastika is used primarily as a symbol by Hindus, but transferred to followers of other Indic religions like Buddhists and Jainists.

In the West, the Swastika is most easily identified as the symbol of the Nazis, who believed that the early Aryans of India, from whose Vedic tradition the swastika sprang, were the prototypical white invaders, and thus saw fit to co-opt the sign as a symbol of white unity. It has come to signify fascism outside of India and many countries in East Asia due to its history in World War II.

<i>From Wikipedia - The Free Encyclopedia</i>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

The5thCandidate 06-12-2004 03:42 PM

Most Rudyard Kipling's books used to be printed with a swastika on the spine. That was pre-1930's, of course. I've got a big shelf full of old books of his from the 1910's, all with the swastika.

http://home.t-online.de/home/rotis/s...n/kipling4.jpg


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