Bill Clinton sleeping during Reagans funeral
 

Did anyone else see Slick Willie sleeping during Ronald Reagan's funeral. What a friggin disgrace! Margaret Thatcher is very ill and she made it through! I can't believe Hillary hasn't kicked him to the curb yet!:mad:

I actually saw them both with their eyes closed. Drudge report has the photo posted. The difference in class and style between Nancy Reagan and the Clintons and Gores were obvious.

Did you see his shoes?!?!?! OMGOMGOMG?!?!?!

Ooh give me a break. Everyone was sleeping. I was watching it. It was a snorefest. The guy sitting DIRECTLY behind Nancy had his head cocked to the side and back. Whoever the hell lady it is behind Hillary was dozing off as well. I betcha Babs and Poppy were sleeping at some point too, Drudge just doesn't care to show it.

Some of those speeches were boring as hell bluster. I was falling asleep and I was in a diner eating a cheesesteak at the time. You all know, of the heads of state who spoke, not one of them was actually WRITTEN by the guy who was speaking them. I can understand having speech writers do pure political speeches and state addresses but this was a personal funeral. You should say your own words there. Not something a professional speech writer thought up. And not go ON and ON for fucking ever. 15 to 20 minute speeches. Christ.

Who cares?
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What is really important is the guy behind Clinton. His damn tie is a little unkempt and he opened his jacket. An obvious sign of contempt for Reagan for being so informal!

Now this is some funny shit

I don't think Ronnie would mind. He'd probably be sleeping too. ;)

That's funny as hell. It doesn't matter one bit but it is funny. Now if they could just get shots of when everybody else nodded off and put them into a collage that would be hilarious.

People showed up to pay their respects to Reagan (alright some showed up just so they could appear to be showing respect to him but whatever) there's no need to criticize anyone for falling asleep during a long and boring service.

Agreed, Superbelt. I was watching a bit of it and must say it was pretty boring. Why the hell can't these heads of states at least speak their own words at a funeral? It doesn't make sense. :crazy:

I must have been watching a different service. I found it dignified, solemn and not at all boring. Perhaps it is my advanced age.

I had to turn off NPR, because of this yawn session.

I must have watched the same service as you, it wasn't boring.

And we know this how? GHWB appeared to have handwritten looseleaf pages in his hand. It was so unpolished that I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that it was self-authored.


And I dunno.....20 mintues for 93 years of life on the planet doesn't seem too much to ask to sit through.

I agree too, I thought it was a great tribute to a great man. Sorry I feel this way, but I think Bill or anyone else that was sleeping could have fought it a little more. I mean, he had to know that the camera was going to be on him a few times seeing how he's the former President and he was right up front. Maybe he just doesn't give a shit!

As I recall, Reagan himself nodded off at a few cabinet meetings? Yeah, I think he'd see the humor in it, and have a little chuckle to himself. Let's try not to politicize everything.

Advanced age? At what age exactly does someone become "advanced"?

It should have been banned from the radio. I'm sure it caused several accidents resulting from heavy eyelid syndrome.

Actually, it looks like they are praying.

Hillary, maybe, but Bill's jaw is falling open, though he managed to keep his mouth closed.


This reminds me of the laughs I had when They kept showing people asleep at State of the Union.

yawn. didn't like him in life, respects in death, but lets get on with it.

I'm not trying to politicize anything, If I was politicizing it, I would've put it in Tilted Politics. Sorry for the way I feel, just voicing my opinion. Thought that was what the forum was all about. You have your opinion, I have mine. Enough said!

...and you're absolutely right, maybe he (Reagan)would have gotten a kick out of it. Ok, so I was lying about enough said!

Seriously, Im so sick of hearing about him on every god damn news station. The man lived more than a full life, it was time for him to go, get over it.

EDIT: You know, I think they are praying, the lady behind them has her eyes closed too.

And that would be my guess as well. But that's not as much fun as saying that Billy C. was caught napping at Reagan's funeral. C'mon, let's put the "fun" back in funeral.

"The lady behind them" is, I believe, Betty Ford.

That's Gerald Ford. I really doubt that any disrespect was intended. He's getting a little up there in his years, as well. Buttons may not work as easily as they once did. Give him the benefit of the doubt. ;)

It's over. Cut off his head and drive a stake through his heart already and let's go back to having news on the news, shall we?

Clinton's even being there probably showed more respect than anyone had any right to expect.

Well he could have been sleeping. who knows. Whats really disgusting is assholes like this bunch.

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some people have no class at all.

I always thought you were supposed to unbutton when sitting and button when standing while in a suit.

Looks like praying to me. 3 people in the pic, 3 people with their eyes closed. A wider view would be nice.

I did get a kick out of the smirk clinton had on his face through bush's speech, though. Especially at the part where bush mentioned the government "overstepping its bounds". It looks to me that, in this picture, he is trying to suppress that smirk.

Must have been overworked the night before. It does look like a smirk but it also looks as tho he maybe getting ready to drop his chin for one big snore. Maybe he always looks happy when he sleeps. Who knows what kind of dreams may running wild through his head. http://home.mchsi.com/~wsgrrl/wsb/me...1/site1177.gif

Just because they are not kissing his ass like everyone else because he is dead, does not mean they dont have class. If he was alive, it would be Ok, right?

First of all, paying your respects to a deceased President of the United States is not ass kissing. Second, you are damn right those people have no class, standing on a corner holding signs during Reagans funeral saying he is in hell. They are pathetic people that are only interested in shock value, otherwise they would have been doing this while he was alive.

Once again, doesnt make them classless for doing this during his funeral. Maybe he is in hell, he was responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people, was he not? Hey, maybe we should pay our respects to all the child molesters and murderers when they die too. The fact of the matter is, a person does not become perfect just because they die.

I admit it is sad he died, but honestly this has been dragged out too much. I don't blame them for sleeping.

I'm damn sorry I brought this up!

Ithought the bling bling hubcaps (rims?) on the entire funeral entourage back in California was excessive. Embarrassing to say the least. Not to mention Bob Dole who was doing 'color commentary' on CNN. Didn't he want to be President some years ago.

I think it is kind of funny that they choose to do this kind of protest. Somebody should tell them you are not going to upset Regan, he's dead. If you wanted to piss off Regan, you would need to do it about ten years back before the Alzheimer's set in. They needed to go back about ten years and hold signs saying "Regan you are going to hell" in the future tense. This would of been significantly more effective in upsetting Regan and would have upset considerably less third parties. I'm not saying Regan is going to hell or is in hell; I'm simply correcting a breech of protest etiquitte.

/has a horribly morbid sense of humor

*was funny, despite the morbid humor*

I think it's disrespectful, yes, but I also know that it can be very difficult to stay awake in a funeral sometimes. Rude, yes, that's done been mentioned and acknowledged, but sometimes the speakers ought as well be singing lullabies. This is further proof that Clinton is, indeed, human.

Now that's funny.

People are complaining that it was boring? Newsflash: It was a funeral. It wasn't meant to entertain you.

Reagan's Praetorian PR probably slipped sleeping pills into Bill's tea - you know, so Drudge would have something to report.

/conspiracytheoryomgwtfbbq!!??

"The guy!!??!!" The "guy" behind Clinton is President Ford.

Good grief!

Oh my God!

Bill was probably just thinking about getting a blow job from the lady in front of them and hillary was dreaming about the day she wants to be called Mr. President. They feasted on the crops sewn by President Reagan.

I'd like to second that and submit it to the secretary for approval in the minutes.

Something like that....

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I am not a big fan of Clintons but if you clearly look at the picture they are praying. People try to make big deals out of stupid stuff and that is why the media sucks.

I agree - this is an artifact of the photographic instant - which reveals only appearance. I have no idea what was going on in the subjects' minds when their eyelids happened to be closed at the moment the picture was taken.

I hope it is a picture of them sleeping, it'd be evidence that they are still sleeping together. I'd have bet anything he was relagated to the living room sofa....

The body language of the two of them is even more interesting, but it's a brief second in time -- so that'd be reading way too much into it.

Sorry folks, I'm not talking about any snapshots or photoshops pictures, I watched most of the funeral service, and they zoomed in on Billy at least three times in a 20 minute span, and he was CLEARLY ZZZZZZZZZZZZZing. I didn't see Hillary sleeping, however. That's why I hate the picture being brought into the thread. If you saw the coverage, you saw Billy, eyes closed, mouth open to a relaxed dreaming state. I bet if you zoomed in you would've seen the drool coming out of the corners of his mouth. If you are going by the pictures you've seen and not on seeing it on the tube, I wish you wouldn't make comments like that. By the way, I'm sorry I brought this up in the first place, and I'd like to apologize to all you Bill and Hillary supporters or those who thought I was being too caddy. I simply thought that it was rude to be sleeping at not only Reagan's funeral, but anyone. Especially when you're in the public spotlight.

I am not a "Bill and Hillary supporter."
I just think a cheap shot is a cheap shot.
Points of view as influenced by media are not rational. Media provide edited and selected data - not continuous contextualized information. In this instance, the interpretation of the video coverage compared to the photographic still shots is equally questionable.

With all due respect, I usually am with you ARTelevision on most of your views and ideas, however, I disagree that the video coverage was questionable, unless you think that the New World Order or someone had something to do with doctoring the LIVE video that I saw on CBS. Bill was clearly sleeping. Cheap shot or whatever, call it what you like. I yam what I yam and I saw what I saw! I'm done with this subject, I've already wasted too much time on something that most people are shrugging off. Like I said, I wish I had just not touched my keyboard, and kept it to myself. Enough said (or typed!) ;)

heh heh. understood, perripken.

Well for one thing, I have an anti-media bias in so far as I am always skeptical of conclusions that can be drawn from such ersatz "proof" as photographic evidence of something.

My other concern is that we who are not Bill and Hillary supporters might descend to the same level of dialog as is often hurled against their opponents. This instance offers us an opportunity to eschew such attacks.

All mass media mind-control, influence and misinterpretation aside. I too watched the entire service, on at least 4 different channels and have to come to perripken's defense. A good part of my job is interpreting body language and facial expressions. Without dragging this out further, I'll let it at "I saw what he saw".

Perhaps I owe him an apology for referencing the one still shot, but I didn't have links to the "movie". My apologies if I started something, perripken.

I only had that picture to go off of. I couldn't remember who was behind Bill. I DO know what Ford looks like.

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I'd just like to say again that this was a very, very long funeral service. It's natural for people to fall asleep. There were other famous, prominent people who were snoozing as well.

I prefer the idea that they were engaged in inward-looking meditation - perhaps even what is called "prayer." As the conclusion is undemonstrable but for the photographs and video, I would hope fair-minded people err on the side of giving these two - who well comprehend the awesome responsibilities and significance of the positions of President and First Lady - the benefit of the doubt.

ya know what sickened me...?

we watched the baba wawa special that abc aired before they landed back in simi valley...

while it was insight and quite often humorous i told my good lady - wait for the commercial at the end...

and sure enough, there it was...

"if you'd like a vhs or dvd of the preceeding program you can call blah blah blah..."

leave it to disney to capitalize on it

I believe it! GAWD!
and also:

Thanks, but no need to mention it! I'm over this whole thing!

Yep. Sometimes this board is a good place to get over things. Once posted, one has to stare at one's words. This can cause the best of us to have second thoughts at times.
:)

hahaha, this is a riot!

If he was sleeping, I'm sure his head would be bobbing. Can YOU sleep with your head straight up like that?

It looks like he was sittin there with his eyes closed. Is that bad?

Maybe he was "praying" or whatever.

I was unable to watch the service because of work but I did record it on my DISH PVR on Fox News. They had almost no comentary but simply panned the cameras. I found it interesting that once they panned past a clearly sleeping Clinton, they quickly cut away and never went back to that view. It appears from comments here and elsewhere that the other networks kept going back to the sleeping Clintons. One would have thought that if there was intentional editing of content that Fox would have been the network to point out Clinton's foibles.

By the way, I found the service and eulogies moving and riviting. I must be getting old.

Photo does not = video, watch the video, then draw your conclusions. That's all I'm going to say.

pictures, like words, can often be taken out of context.

You're right, you are. When standing, you button. When sitting, you unbutton.

I have often slept during boring classes, ceremonies, etc.....Who really cares if he nodded off or not? It just seems that people look for the foibles in people to justify their dislike of them.

Bill 'O Rights is right.....must we politicize everything? And further more, when someone voices their opinion on said subject matter, why must we always attack back because something that one person says is not in the majority of what others feel, or in the same opinion of the poster?

A couple of questions:
1. Why was Superbelt watching it in the first place. There were other things on TV
2. Has a Liberal ever screwed up? To listen to him, he has an excuse for anything a liberal does or says.

20 posts later someone gets it right.

HE'S PRAYING!

I don't know what you do in a church, but I usually don't wait for the Reverend's permission to pray, I just go off whenever I think of it.

You guys want to make this political? Why is it that Reagan gets to be dead for the whole week? Enough already.