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perripken 06-11-2004 10:58 AM

Bill Clinton sleeping during Reagans funeral
 
Did anyone else see Slick Willie sleeping during Ronald Reagan's funeral. What a friggin disgrace! Margaret Thatcher is very ill and she made it through! I can't believe Hillary hasn't kicked him to the curb yet!:mad:

mxyzptlk 06-11-2004 11:05 AM

I actually saw them both with their eyes closed. Drudge report has the photo posted. The difference in class and style between Nancy Reagan and the Clintons and Gores were obvious.

filtherton 06-11-2004 11:09 AM

Did you see his shoes?!?!?! OMGOMGOMG?!?!?!

Superbelt 06-11-2004 11:14 AM

Ooh give me a break. Everyone was sleeping. I was watching it. It was a snorefest. The guy sitting DIRECTLY behind Nancy had his head cocked to the side and back. Whoever the hell lady it is behind Hillary was dozing off as well. I betcha Babs and Poppy were sleeping at some point too, Drudge just doesn't care to show it.

Some of those speeches were boring as hell bluster. I was falling asleep and I was in a diner eating a cheesesteak at the time. You all know, of the heads of state who spoke, not one of them was actually WRITTEN by the guy who was speaking them. I can understand having speech writers do pure political speeches and state addresses but this was a personal funeral. You should say your own words there. Not something a professional speech writer thought up. And not go ON and ON for fucking ever. 15 to 20 minute speeches. Christ.

Who cares?
http://www.drudgereport.com/rrbc.jpg
What is really important is the guy behind Clinton. His damn tie is a little unkempt and he opened his jacket. An obvious sign of contempt for Reagan for being so informal!

Rdr4evr 06-11-2004 11:29 AM

Now this is some funny shit

sherpahigh 06-11-2004 11:30 AM

I don't think Ronnie would mind. He'd probably be sleeping too. ;)

onetime2 06-11-2004 11:31 AM

That's funny as hell. It doesn't matter one bit but it is funny. Now if they could just get shots of when everybody else nodded off and put them into a collage that would be hilarious.

People showed up to pay their respects to Reagan (alright some showed up just so they could appear to be showing respect to him but whatever) there's no need to criticize anyone for falling asleep during a long and boring service.

Esoteric 06-11-2004 11:36 AM

Agreed, Superbelt. I was watching a bit of it and must say it was pretty boring. Why the hell can't these heads of states at least speak their own words at a funeral? It doesn't make sense. :crazy:

mxyzptlk 06-11-2004 11:41 AM

I must have been watching a different service. I found it dignified, solemn and not at all boring. Perhaps it is my advanced age.

tecoyah 06-11-2004 11:43 AM

I had to turn off NPR, because of this yawn session.

maleficent 06-11-2004 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by mxyzptlk
I must have been watching a different service. I found it dignified, solemn and not at all boring. Perhaps it is my advanced age.
I must have watched the same service as you, it wasn't boring.

mxyzptlk 06-11-2004 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Superbelt


You all know, of the heads of state who spoke, not one of them was actually WRITTEN by the guy who was speaking them. I can understand having speech writers do pure political speeches and state addresses but this was a personal funeral. You should say your own words there. Not something a professional speech writer thought up.

And we know this how? GHWB appeared to have handwritten looseleaf pages in his hand. It was so unpolished that I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that it was self-authored.


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And not go ON and ON for fucking ever. 15 to 20 minute speeches. Christ.

And I dunno.....20 mintues for 93 years of life on the planet doesn't seem too much to ask to sit through.

perripken 06-11-2004 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mxyzptlk
I must have been watching a different service. I found it dignified, solemn and not at all boring. Perhaps it is my advanced age.
I agree too, I thought it was a great tribute to a great man. Sorry I feel this way, but I think Bill or anyone else that was sleeping could have fought it a little more. I mean, he had to know that the camera was going to be on him a few times seeing how he's the former President and he was right up front. Maybe he just doesn't give a shit!

Bill O'Rights 06-11-2004 11:58 AM

As I recall, Reagan himself nodded off at a few cabinet meetings? Yeah, I think he'd see the humor in it, and have a little chuckle to himself. Let's try not to politicize everything.

Rdr4evr 06-11-2004 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mxyzptlk
I must have been watching a different service. I found it dignified, solemn and not at all boring. Perhaps it is my advanced age.
Advanced age? At what age exactly does someone become "advanced"?

Superbelt 06-11-2004 12:01 PM

It should have been banned from the radio. I'm sure it caused several accidents resulting from heavy eyelid syndrome.

Rubyee 06-11-2004 12:20 PM

Actually, it looks like they are praying.

MSD 06-11-2004 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by Rubyee
Actually, it looks like they are praying.
Hillary, maybe, but Bill's jaw is falling open, though he managed to keep his mouth closed.


This reminds me of the laughs I had when They kept showing people asleep at State of the Union.

clockworkgreen 06-11-2004 12:33 PM

yawn. didn't like him in life, respects in death, but lets get on with it.

perripken 06-11-2004 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill O'Rights
As I recall, Reagan himself nodded off at a few cabinet meetings? Yeah, I think he'd see the humor in it, and have a little chuckle to himself. Let's try not to politicize everything.
I'm not trying to politicize anything, If I was politicizing it, I would've put it in Tilted Politics. Sorry for the way I feel, just voicing my opinion. Thought that was what the forum was all about. You have your opinion, I have mine. Enough said!

perripken 06-11-2004 12:42 PM

...and you're absolutely right, maybe he (Reagan)would have gotten a kick out of it. Ok, so I was lying about enough said!

Rdr4evr 06-11-2004 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by clockworkgreen
yawn. didn't like him in life, respects in death, but lets get on with it.
Seriously, Im so sick of hearing about him on every god damn news station. The man lived more than a full life, it was time for him to go, get over it.

EDIT: You know, I think they are praying, the lady behind them has her eyes closed too.

Bill O'Rights 06-11-2004 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rdr4evr
You know, I think they are praying, the lady behind them has her eyes closed too.
And that would be my guess as well. But that's not as much fun as saying that Billy C. was caught napping at Reagan's funeral. C'mon, let's put the "fun" back in funeral.

"The lady behind them" is, I believe, Betty Ford.

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Originally posted by Superbelt
What is really important is the guy behind Clinton. His damn tie is a little unkempt and he opened his jacket. An obvious sign of contempt for Reagan for being so informal!
That's Gerald Ford. I really doubt that any disrespect was intended. He's getting a little up there in his years, as well. Buttons may not work as easily as they once did. Give him the benefit of the doubt. ;)

Tophat665 06-11-2004 01:56 PM

It's over. Cut off his head and drive a stake through his heart already and let's go back to having news on the news, shall we?

Clinton's even being there probably showed more respect than anyone had any right to expect.

Cujo 06-11-2004 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by perripken
Did anyone else see Slick Willie sleeping during Ronald Reagan's funeral. What a friggin disgrace!

Well he could have been sleeping. who knows. Whats really disgusting is assholes like this bunch.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...gan_zeb102.jpg
some people have no class at all.

ObieX 06-11-2004 02:31 PM

I always thought you were supposed to unbutton when sitting and button when standing while in a suit.

ObieX 06-11-2004 02:35 PM

Looks like praying to me. 3 people in the pic, 3 people with their eyes closed. A wider view would be nice.

I did get a kick out of the smirk clinton had on his face through bush's speech, though. Especially at the part where bush mentioned the government "overstepping its bounds". It looks to me that, in this picture, he is trying to suppress that smirk.

EruptiveDreamz 06-11-2004 02:45 PM

Must have been overworked the night before. It does look like a smirk but it also looks as tho he maybe getting ready to drop his chin for one big snore. Maybe he always looks happy when he sleeps. Who knows what kind of dreams may running wild through his head. http://home.mchsi.com/~wsgrrl/wsb/me...1/site1177.gif

Rdr4evr 06-11-2004 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cujo
Well he could have been sleeping. who knows. Whats really disgusting is assholes like this bunch.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...gan_zeb102.jpg
some people have no class at all.

Just because they are not kissing his ass like everyone else because he is dead, does not mean they dont have class. If he was alive, it would be Ok, right?

NbCal 06-11-2004 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rdr4evr
Just because they are not kissing his ass like everyone else because he is dead, does not mean they dont have class. If he was alive, it would be Ok, right?
First of all, paying your respects to a deceased President of the United States is not ass kissing. Second, you are damn right those people have no class, standing on a corner holding signs during Reagans funeral saying he is in hell. They are pathetic people that are only interested in shock value, otherwise they would have been doing this while he was alive.

Rdr4evr 06-11-2004 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NbCal
First of all, paying your respects to a deceased President of the United States is not ass kissing. Second, you are damn right those people have no class, standing on a corner holding signs during Reagans funeral saying he is in hell. They are pathetic people that are only interested in shock value, otherwise they would have been doing this while he was alive.
Once again, doesnt make them classless for doing this during his funeral. Maybe he is in hell, he was responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people, was he not? Hey, maybe we should pay our respects to all the child molesters and murderers when they die too. The fact of the matter is, a person does not become perfect just because they die.

punx1325 06-11-2004 05:28 PM

I admit it is sad he died, but honestly this has been dragged out too much. I don't blame them for sleeping.

perripken 06-11-2004 05:49 PM

I'm damn sorry I brought this up!

OFKU0 06-11-2004 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superbelt
Ooh give me a break. Everyone was sleeping. I was watching it. It was a snorefest. The guy sitting DIRECTLY behind Nancy had his head cocked to the side and back. Whoever the hell lady it is behind Hillary was dozing off as well. I betcha Babs and Poppy were sleeping at some point too, Drudge just doesn't care to show it.

Some of those speeches were boring as hell bluster. I was falling asleep and I was in a diner eating a cheesesteak at the time. You all know, of the heads of state who spoke, not one of them was actually WRITTEN by the guy who was speaking them. I can understand having speech writers do pure political speeches and state addresses but this was a personal funeral. You should say your own words there. Not something a professional speech writer thought up. And not go ON and ON for fucking ever. 15 to 20 minute speeches. Christ.

Who cares?
http://www.drudgereport.com/rrbc.jpg

Ithought the bling bling hubcaps (rims?) on the entire funeral entourage back in California was excessive. Embarrassing to say the least. Not to mention Bob Dole who was doing 'color commentary' on CNN. Didn't he want to be President some years ago.

nanofever 06-11-2004 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cujo
Well he could have been sleeping. who knows. Whats really disgusting is assholes like this bunch.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...gan_zeb102.jpg
some people have no class at all.

I think it is kind of funny that they choose to do this kind of protest. Somebody should tell them you are not going to upset Regan, he's dead. If you wanted to piss off Regan, you would need to do it about ten years back before the Alzheimer's set in. They needed to go back about ten years and hold signs saying "Regan you are going to hell" in the future tense. This would of been significantly more effective in upsetting Regan and would have upset considerably less third parties. I'm not saying Regan is going to hell or is in hell; I'm simply correcting a breech of protest etiquitte.

/has a horribly morbid sense of humor

H12 06-11-2004 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nanofever
I think it is kind of funny that they choose to do this kind of protest. Somebody should tell them you are not going to upset Regan, he's dead. If you wanted to piss off Regan, you would need to do it about ten years back before the Alzheimer's set in. They needed to go back about ten years and hold signs saying "Regan you are going to hell" in the future tense. This would of been significantly more effective in upsetting Regan and would have upset considerably less third parties. I'm not saying Regan is going to hell or is in hell; I'm simply correcting a breech of protest etiquitte.

/has a horribly morbid sense of humor

*was funny, despite the morbid humor*

I think it's disrespectful, yes, but I also know that it can be very difficult to stay awake in a funeral sometimes. Rude, yes, that's done been mentioned and acknowledged, but sometimes the speakers ought as well be singing lullabies. This is further proof that Clinton is, indeed, human.

OFKU0 06-11-2004 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nanofever
I think it is kind of funny that they choose to do this kind of protest. Somebody should tell them you are not going to upset Regan, he's dead. If you wanted to piss off Regan, you would need to do it about ten years back before the Alzheimer's set in. They needed to go back about ten years and hold signs saying "Regan you are going to hell" in the future tense. This would of been significantly more effective in upsetting Regan and would have upset considerably less third parties. I'm not saying Regan is going to hell or is in hell; I'm simply correcting a breech of protest etiquitte.

Now that's funny.

Hwed 06-12-2004 03:08 AM

People are complaining that it was boring? Newsflash: It was a funeral. It wasn't meant to entertain you.

Macheath 06-12-2004 03:10 AM

Reagan's Praetorian PR probably slipped sleeping pills into Bill's tea - you know, so Drudge would have something to report.

/conspiracytheoryomgwtfbbq!!??

warrrreagl 06-12-2004 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Superbelt
What is really important is the guy behind Clinton. His damn tie is a little unkempt and he opened his jacket. An obvious sign of contempt for Reagan for being so informal!
"The guy!!??!!" The "guy" behind Clinton is President Ford.

Good grief!


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