slimpi66y

taxes went up by about a grand today for people making 48G or less, this is the worst government we have seen in decades,

now I know the feeling of betrayed...

forseti-6

What are the total taxes as it stands?

__________________
"Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened." - Dr. Seuss

Cujo

Total Taxes be damned. Mr McGuinty ran on a platform that he and his Liberals would NOT raise taxes. I saw all those ads where he stood in front of the people of Ontario, looked us in the eye and lied. "We will not lower taxes nor will we raise them either". Now he plans to repeal the law the Conservatives put in place punishing any government that raises taxes above and beyond what the public can afford. HYPOCRITES AND LIARS.

Ontarians. If ever there was a reason not to vote Liberal in the next Federal election this is it. Vote for Paul Martin and your telling the Feds that they can get away with outright lies and we'll kiss their ass and call it ice cream.

So fuckin angry I could scream right now.

"I, Dalton McGuinty, leader of the Liberal Party of Ontario, promise, if my party is elected as the next government, that I will not raise taxes or implement new taxes without the explicit consent of Ontario voters, and not run deficits. I promise to abide by the Taxpayer Protection and Balanced Budget Act."

- Taxpayer Protection Pledge signed Sept. 11, 2003


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"We're not going to raise your taxes, but neither will we cut them."

- McGuinty after signing the pledge.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"We're not going to raise taxes. That's just not on the table."

- McGuinty, the day of his government's inaugural throne speech, Nov. 20, 2003


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I don't want to raise taxes. It is not my intention to raise taxes."

- McGuinty, Dec. 18, 2003

OFKU0

Well as a a fellow Ontarian I am not surprised. This is the Liberal Party afterall. They have wasted billions upon billions federally and now will do it provincially, since it was so successful on a large scale.

And when the federal election comes sometime in June, all the people in Ontario and Quebec will yet again vote Liberal because they are collectively scared of change. Oh yeah,.. they will bitch and scream until time comes to put a check on their ballot slip but once in the ballot booth they will yet again become mindless sheep and vote Liberal.

I for one took a pledge myself some time ago to do everything in my power to steal, lie and ripoff all levels of government as effectively as they fucking well rip me off. Proof? My property taxes went up 100% in the last 2 years and the services have declined. I have paid in income tax almost half of my net earnings. I won't go on but I'm fucking pissed off.

I used to think( stupidly) that doing my share contributing through taxes to the whole and to those less fortunate in society was socially conscious. What a dummy I was. Now I am supporting a new charity,...ME,...and I don't give a fuck who has or doesn't have. Every man for himself or else get stuck with the never ending tax bills that never stop rising.

I have to go fill my car up now and pay 97.9 cents a litre. Very nice.

And tomorrow I will be paid, as I am everyday, in cash for services rendered.

__________________
" In Canada, you can tell the most blatant lie in a calm voice, and people will believe you over someone who's a little passionate about the truth." David Warren, Western Standard.

Church

This enrages me. I think, as an Ontarian, I am going to make up some signs, and start a petition where I will stand at malls, parking lots, anywhere busy, and see how many sigs I can get. Hopefully more people will join me. I think if I make up a sign that says, "Did you know your taxes were just raised $1000.00?". I think that will do all the talking for me. If anyone wants to get in on this, please private message me and we can set something up. As long as you live in Ontario, you're eligible to help.

__________________
Through counter-intelligence, it should be possible to pinpoint potential trouble makers, and neutralize them.

metalgeek

Wow, must suck to live in Ontario..
yay Klein!!!

__________________
The truth is, wherever you choose to be, it's the wrong place.
Chuck Palahniuk , Diary

forseti-6

What's the sales tax there nowadays? The last time I visited it was something like 13.5%

__________________
"Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened." - Dr. Seuss

OFKU0

PST PROVINCIAL SALES TAX---8%
GST GOODS AND SERVICE TAX---7%

15% tax across the board for almost everything one has to pay for.

__________________
" In Canada, you can tell the most blatant lie in a calm voice, and people will believe you over someone who's a little passionate about the truth." David Warren, Western Standard.

Cujo

Sales tax for the province of Ontario is now at 8% of the purchase price. We also pay 7% to the feds in goods and services tax (GST). My property tax went up 13% last month and Mr. McGuinty removed the cap for hydro rates and they will probably skyrocket this summer. I paid .92 cents a litre for gas yesterday and today will pay $2.50 more for a carton of smokes and I think another.45 cents on a case of beer. I don't mind paying more on the so called sin tax but local, provincial and federal governments in this country are now getting together to tax the shit out of me.

Mr McGuinty. It is now my personal crusade to see that you never govern again in the province of Ontario. You are a fuckin liar and an asshole besides. Fuck you Craig Sorbara and Sandra Pupatello. Next they'll be asking for a pay raise.

OFKU0

For our American neighbours to the south the exchange is;

1 gallon= 3.7854 litres

At 97.9 cents a litre that would be approximately $3.70 a gallon minus the currency exchange --- around $2.80 a gallon.

__________________
" In Canada, you can tell the most blatant lie in a calm voice, and people will believe you over someone who's a little passionate about the truth." David Warren, Western Standard.

rainheart

We told you people to vote NDP but nnoooOOOOoaaAA.... well this is what you get. VOTE NDP NEXT TIME, LOCALLY, PROVINCIALLY, AND FEDERALLY!

BoCo

Socialism sucks and so does Canada (until it's no longer a socialist nation).

__________________
Activism is a way for useless people to feel important.

wakelagger

Enlighten us BoCo; why does socialism suck.

NewBonk

Whenever you rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll have the full support of Paul.

Peter on the other hand gets a little pissed after awhile.

Sorry, I don't know who I stole the Peter/Paul quote from

slimpi66y

it's 15% bro, it's turning stealing into an outright robbery,

slimpi66y

NDP is the true communist, they are the worst, they will have unions to run this country

metalgeek

Man, working for a company that had unions has made me hate unions forever, they are blood sucking fiends who only exist to cause pain in others.
(hey do lawyers have a union?)

__________________
The truth is, wherever you choose to be, it's the wrong place.
Chuck Palahniuk , Diary

Charlatan

Such an enlightened comment.

splck

Yet another wise quip from one of our friends beneath us.....it's a shame some people actually think this way

I see nothing new here in regards to the liberal party. The sad thing is Ont will elect Liberals in the upcoming federal election. If only citizens had a longer memory these clowns would not be in office.
Do they put something in the water out your way that makes people vote the way they do?

__________________
nice line eh?

KnifeMissile

No, it's just that there is no one better. The Americans don't have it any better, either. You can vote right wing or right wing (it's just that one right is slightly less right than the other). In Canada, at least our sucky choices are quite different.

They all suck, though. Ontario doesn't vote Liberal because they're mindless sheep and I fail to see what the provincial government has to do with oil prices. People are just looking for something to complain about. I also don't know how valid it is to associate the actions of the provincial Liberal party to the federal one. Ontario has tried to garner favours from the federal government, since they are the same party, and has failed to do so. There doesn't appear to be much cooperation.

Anyway, back to the point. Ontario votes Liberal because there's little else to vote for. The NDP are just a little too left and the Conservative party are way too right. Is anyone here really going to vote for Stephen Harper?

rockzilla

I've been complaining for years about the pathetic state of our health care system. Doctors are fleeing the country en masse and we're doing nothing to keep them. So I don't mind being taxed a little more as long as you're actually going to improve health care!, but I'll believe that when I see it.
McGuinty's big song and dance about not raising taxes was pure bullshit. My number one rule of politics is : The bigger deal a politician is making about being honest, the sharper his backstabbing knife is.
One day I'll run as an independant with the platform that siphoning off public funds will be punishable by public flogging.

Edit - And Knifemissle's right, the Liberals win with the honour of being the 'Least of 3 evils'

Yakk

Personally, I'm hoping for either a Conservative/NDP minority government , or failing that a Liberal/NDP minority government.

I don't trust the Reform party, no more than the West's Reformerites trusted the PC party after Mulrooney. At the same time, I think they need some seasoning in government so they won't continue to be inexperienced oafs.

__________________
Last edited by JHVH : 10-29-4004 BC at 09:00 PM. Reason: Time for a rest.