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Old 05-16-2004, 06:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Aggressive Dog(s) = Pepper Spray?

Ok, before anyone starts blasting me for pepper spraying a dog then let me just I have not done it.

Here is the scenario I go through every other day: I have arrived back from college and I have started running regularly. Now I really enjoy running on the sidewalks in my town but there is a slight problem. Every time I go out and run I am confronted with aggressive dogs that usually come racing out barking and snarling their teeth at me. I honestly feel threatened and I have even taken several different routes to try and find one that doesn't have stupid dogs coming out into the road trying to bite me.

So my questions is should I try to find some pepper spray and carry it with me while I'm running or is there some other humane way to get these dogs to stop? Some lady at Wal-Mart told me that I cannot buy pepper spray in my county except at the police station, but she has used ammonia in a spray bottle to deter dogs while she walked. Any suggestions?

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Old 05-16-2004, 06:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Try silly string. Or an airhorn.
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Old 05-16-2004, 06:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Aggressive Dog(s) = Pepper Spray?

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So my questions is should I try to find some pepper spray and carry it with me while I'm running
Yes.

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Old 05-16-2004, 07:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just make sure you are familiar with using pepper spray, accidents can happen, a wind could blow, and you'd end up with a face full of pepper spray.

Why not go to the police station and get some, you'd probably be given a lesson in how to use it. If the dogs are that aggressive, and off leash, the police should probably be made aware of these dogs anyhow.

I'm not overly fond of other peoples sweet little family pets who are trained killers, 18 stitches in my right arm were courtesy of the family pet next door who jumped a 6 foot cage in the families backyard and came after me as I walked into my backyard.
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Old 05-16-2004, 07:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Oh, there's one easy wasy:

bring a pistol, or even just a sharp object. A good jab in the eye usually stops further antagonizing.

Okay, seriously though, I've known listerine in a squirt gun to be pretty effective. Knowing my dog, an airhorn would be key.
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Old 05-16-2004, 07:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My grandpa always fucking hated dogs that got in his face so he would bring a cane and swat them while walking. He asked a cop about it and the cop's response was something like:

"If a dog is really giving you trouble, shoot it, drag it into the woods, and don't say another word about it. Makes it easier for everyone."

So I guess there's your answer.
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Old 05-16-2004, 07:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I've had several chase me while i'm on my motorcycle and if they get too close I give them a nice swift kick in the head. Done that a few times.
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Old 05-16-2004, 08:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Wow. I thought I was going to be the only one here that is not shy about taking down an animal that is threatening me.

Seriously. If you ar not on private property, and someone/something threatens you, fuck it up. Use whatever works - pepper spray, amonia, a heavy object, etc.

I love my dog, but if she ever threatened someone on the street, I would expect them to defend themselves. And that doesn't mean that they have to wait until they are bitten before it is self-defense.
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Old 05-16-2004, 08:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I agree with clavus; as much as I love my dog (Great Dane/Black Lab Mix) I have no expectations for kindness if he's threatening somebody. The same applied to my last dog, a Rottweiler/Doberman mix. In both cases the dogs were brought up in very loving and caring families, and we never had an issue of any sort with either animal, but the case remains the same.

Think about it from another perspective: if the target was a man, would you spray it? If so, then it applies to an animal as well.

maleficent had a good idea with going to the police about it.
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Old 05-16-2004, 08:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I do a lot of walking/running and up before I did, I used to love dogs. Now, I really hate the wreched little beasts. I'm so sick of some dog jumping at me just because their owners can't keep them inside or in the back yard.

Spray 'em with half a can.
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Old 05-16-2004, 08:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If these dogs are family pets, then the owner should care enough about the pet to keep it in a place where it can't get into mischief -- or since I assume b1naryb0r1s is running on the street, and not thru neighbors backyards -- they'd want to keep these dogs away from cars and traffic.

Some towns have leash laws and other ordinances where the dog must be kept locked up...

if these dogs are strays, then animal control should be called,
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Old 05-17-2004, 04:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 05-17-2004, 05:14 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yes. If you absolutely feel you must be aggressive back to the animal, use a water pistol. Otherwise just ignore it.
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Old 05-17-2004, 05:41 AM   #14 (permalink)
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we have rules for people to not harbour dogs in our buildings. I had to get a notorized document saying that we were not harboring any dogs.

Silly, because I see dogs all the time in our elevators. I don't get in the elevator with a dog. Not because they will jump on me or anything, but I can't look at the owner and not feel that they are infringing on my rights to live in a dog free community.

The dogs themselves have been labeled not-a-dogs because obviously they can't be dogs accroding to the by laws of the community. It's a shame that people just try to get over so that they can get their way instead of trying to live within the limits and restrictions of the community.
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Old 05-17-2004, 05:57 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 05-17-2004, 06:03 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I used to date one and trust me the pepper spray works wonders!
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Old 05-17-2004, 08:00 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i would rather see someone use a sonic repeller or something like that. but you shouldn't have to feel threatened by some dogs.
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Old 05-17-2004, 09:41 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Try one of these http://www.gooddeals.com/shopexd.asp?id=37

It will hurt their ears, that’s about all.
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Old 05-17-2004, 03:42 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Dog treats are a reasonable way to start, but if they don't work with a particular dog, you need to escalate. I'm surprised no one has suggested calling the local dog warden.

If you must take things in your own hands, the pepper spray is a good start. Also, dogs have a fairly thin skull on the top of their heads. If you think one will actually come close enought to attack you, carry a heavy rock or metal plate as you run by and bash it square on top of the head. You have a decent shot at splitting its skull and solving your problem.
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Old 05-17-2004, 04:16 PM   #20 (permalink)
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pepper spray is very effective against dogs, has no lasting harmful effects (other than the dog remembering that it hurts) is relatively inexpensive, and easily concealed. My concern about using dog treats is that you will be reinforcing the behavior.
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Old 05-17-2004, 04:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You dated a dog? Did he hump your leg? I would mace him for that .
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Old 05-17-2004, 08:23 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I will go to the local police station sometime and see what they say about getting some for self-defense and what the rules are about using it on animals.

Yes I was running on the sidewalk the last time I was threatened by a dog and I had my earphones on running. All of a sudden I hear this loud growling and barking beside me and I turned just in time and he stopped within about 4 feet of me. I then started to walk again (not run because I thought that would entice him) and he started to come at me again when I had my back turned. SO I acted like I was picking up a rock and he backed off a little. Man was my adrenaline pumping because this wasn't a small dog. I'll let you know what I decide on using, but most likely the pepper spray because of its small size.
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Old 05-17-2004, 09:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Yes. If you absolutely feel you must be aggressive back to the animal, use a water pistol. Otherwise just ignore it.
Sometimes that just doesn't work, the learned to self defend myself against dogs is one time my dad was riding motorcycle and a dog jumped up out of the ditch and bit him on the leg. Well my dad kicked him (knocked out all the dogs teeth) and we later found out the dogs never had shot in it's life (and the dog was about 5 years old) My dad received lots of stitches and had to get tested for rabies and whatnot. Don't get me wrong I love dogs, but if it is threatning my life I will hurt it first before it hurts me.
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Old 05-17-2004, 09:49 PM   #24 (permalink)
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squirt gun full of tobasco sauce shot at the face would work pretty well... might be better for repeat uses then those tiny mace squirters...
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Old 05-18-2004, 07:37 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Yes. If you absolutely feel you must be aggressive back to the animal, use a water pistol. Otherwise just ignore it.
That's nonesense. A water pistol?!! I hope, for your sake, that you never come across an attacking pit-bull or Doberman that, for no reason other than their aggresive nature, wants to eat you.

I say pepper-spray them. Or use a base-ball bat. Any dog that attacks a human should be destroyed.


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Old 05-18-2004, 04:30 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I love animals but I just don't see how people place their comfort over their own. Pepper it, kick it, shoot it, fuck it up. Do whatever you need to defend yourself against it.

Would you hit a rapist with a squirt.
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:44 AM   #27 (permalink)
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you could always "pistol whip" it. with a billy club.

learn how to use a tonfa...

high powered squirt gun (all plastic parts) with a little 18M sulfuric acid in it... works wonders.
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Old 05-19-2004, 12:35 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I do the classic method: Pick up a fictional rock and hurl it at the dog. Usually they back away and trot off. It doesn't always work but for me it works 90% of the time. The other 10% I just start running at the dog yelling a made up language. Or start barking back at it. That always confuses them.
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Old 05-19-2004, 03:35 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I have dog issues when I go out jogging. I always go out late at night. It's more quiet then. I have headphones on, so I don't always notice when the dogs are after me until one is right next to me. I stop running, which makes some of them stop. Others stop only while I am facing them. The third category wants a piece of my ass, no matter what I do. Those I kick at and pray.

I carry a sharp screwdriver in my pocket as a last resort. I used to have a long and pointy "letter-opener" (think stiletto) until I lost it. I am beginning to hate dogs and the people who own them. They leave their dosg outside with no supervision most of the time. These dogs come after me just for walking by on the opposite side of the road. I haven't been injured yet, but if that happens, there's going to be a dead dog and a lawsuit in their future. The scariest encounter I had was a pit bull headded full speed at me. It turned out to be a friendly dog, but it had me worried coming straight at me like that. The owner laughed his ass off when I jumped back and reached for my instrument of pain.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:59 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Had a nasty dog in my old homesead back in NJ when I was growing up that was giving me lots of problems. Chased me up a tree a couple of times. Found that a water gun full of tabasco does wonders when you nail them in the face with it.
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Old 05-22-2004, 03:29 PM   #31 (permalink)
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My neighbor dealt with his dog's (yellow lab) agression toward the mailman by asking the mailman to come into the fenced yard to meet the dog. My neighbor then went inside and brought the dog out on a leash and had the dog sit. When the mailman put his hand out for the dog to sniff, it bit him. I'd ask a mailman what to do.
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Old 05-22-2004, 05:15 PM   #32 (permalink)
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My neighbor dealt with his dog's (yellow lab) agression toward the mailman by asking the mailman to come into the fenced yard to meet the dog. My neighbor then went inside and brought the dog out on a leash and had the dog sit. When the mailman put his hand out for the dog to sniff, it bit him. I'd ask a mailman what to do.
Hehe... well, I trust my dogs instinct of people more than my own so I'd be requesting a different mailman.
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