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Peetster 04-24-2004 12:04 PM

Ever aim with intent to kill?
 
Have you ever pointed a loaded weapon at another person, in order to influence them in some way? For example, a police officer might pull his weapon to influence the outcome of an unknown situation, or a store clerk could cause a person attempting robbery to change actions.

I would suggest you not give details about circumstances that would be considered criminal.

I'm posting this here because I want a broad sample, not just the gun club's response. This is not a thread discussing how much you hate guns. Start your own thread if you have something to say about that. I'll delete anti-weapon comments without notice.

hrdwareguy 04-24-2004 12:19 PM

I have not, but would if I was forced to. I almost had to once though.

I lived in Los Vegas for awhile. On night I woke up and there was someone in the patio area outside my bedroom. Got up, got my gun and headed towards the door. Before I could get there they left. Don't know if they were playing hide and seek with their friends or heard me inside.

kel 04-24-2004 12:27 PM

Nope. don't carry. And I have never been in a situation where I wished I had one. But I am still young.

eribrav 04-24-2004 12:30 PM

As I see it, if you're not a police officer, then there's one and only one situation where you should be aiming a gun at someone. That's when you INTEND to kill them. Otherwise why in the world would you be pointing a potentially deadly weapon at somebody?

I've never aimed a gun at anyone, and I hope I never have to, but I intend for the person on the other end to be dead if I do.

tropple 04-24-2004 12:35 PM

Just earning a living.

ARTelevision 04-24-2004 01:09 PM

Have not yet had a need to.

I'm prepared to do what is necessary to defend what's mine.

raeanna74 04-24-2004 01:34 PM

I have not needed to but would without hesitation to protect my family or own self.

I never point a weapon at a person in any other situation. Not even in jest. There are times when you just don't know that the gun is loaded. For example when I worked in gun sales. We had teenage boys who thought it was a cool prank to come into the shop and sneak bullets into the guns. We would periodically check all our weapons on the shelf for ammo and on occasion found some. You just never know.

On the other hand I have been threatened with a gun. It was a 22 rifle in the neighbor boys hands. Nothing came of it thankfully.

World's King 04-24-2004 02:03 PM

I have pointed not one but two loaded guns at someone with the intent to kill.

It was over drug money.

He put the gun to my forehead... I put one to his... he spat in my face... I put another to his forehead. He pissed himself and ran. I picked up his gun, got back in my car and had a started my heart again.

Averett 04-24-2004 02:24 PM

I've never even touched a gun.

SecretMethod70 04-24-2004 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Original King
I have pointed not one but two loaded guns at someone with the intent to kill.

It was over drug money.

He put the gun to my forehead... I put one to his... he spat in my face... I put another to his forehead. He pissed himself and ran. I picked up his gun, got back in my car and had a started my heart again.

*doesn't ask*

I haven't had to do anything of the sort, but I'd certainly protect my life if it were in danger.

cj2112 04-24-2004 03:06 PM

I had somebody try to break into my home through my bedroom window one night....they found themselves on the wrong end of a loaded 12 ga. shotgun

Holo 04-24-2004 03:28 PM

My father was a cop, and taught me utmost respect for weapons of deadly force. I would never point a gun at someone I wasn't prepared to shoot. That hasn't happened yet.

kurty[B] 04-24-2004 05:11 PM

As a child I was shot at by a 15 year old who stole his father's gun.

I found him later that summer unarmed, and attacked him with a two-by-four till he stopped trying to get up. I was only 13 at the time, and later that year he was gunned down by two high school kids who drove up on him, and shot him and his friend down with shotguns.

I know how to use guns, and love going to the firing range with friends I trust, but I personally choose not to own a gun. I respect people's right to own them, but if it comes down to hurting someone else surprise and blunt objects work for me. I hope it never ever comes down to that again.

Fenton-J-Cool 04-24-2004 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tropple
Just earning a living.
Yeah, don't elaborate or anything :rolleyes:


I personally have not fired a real gun before, although I have held one.

**I was warned that anti-gun sentiments would be deleted, and yet I chose to post mine anyway**

qtpye4u84 04-24-2004 06:00 PM

I have!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a paint ball gun though, I shot him in the butt while he was about to leave my room to go to the bath room and he cryed like a baby and screamed really loud.
My boyfriend shoots and kills the birds that go into are yard with a beebee gun, I get mad at him when he does that, cant he get arrested for that?????

Angel 04-24-2004 06:02 PM

I have a conceal and carry permit. I own a Bersa 380 hand gun and I carry it nearly always. I am well trained in it's use and I am an excellent shot. I carry it for ONE purpose, self defense.

I am glad to say I have never needed to use it or even aim it at another human being. God forbid I ever have to. But should I find myself in a situation where it is my life or theirs, I will do what is necessary to protect myself.

ngdawg 04-24-2004 06:08 PM

There were 2 instances in my life where I wish I'd been armed, even though they(guns) actually scare me. My life was threatened and all I was armed with was my wits and luck. God help anyone who would dare to threaten my children-it'd be THEM needing the fire power.

Liquor Dealer 04-24-2004 06:37 PM

I shot a man while working in law enforcement - he shot me first. The State AG ruled no hearing was necessary. I have a 9mm in my car as I make a band deposit every night when we close. I do know how to use it - very well.

bernadette 04-24-2004 10:03 PM

i have never nor ever will own a gun.

i have owned mace & pepper spray. i need to get refill.
never used it, but it's nice to know it's there if i would ever desparately need it. hopefully i'll never need it.

final_identity 04-24-2004 10:15 PM

I'm a "no"

floydthebarber 04-24-2004 10:44 PM

Nope.

Lebell 04-24-2004 11:00 PM

No, and God willing, I will never have to.

The closest I've come is when some guy screaming outside woke me out of a deep sleep. Considering that I didn't know what was going on and that a visual deterent is sometimes better than pointing a gun at somebody, I loaded my AR15 and took it outside, (pointed at the ground) and demanded to know what the f*** was going on.

Anyway, this kid had been beating on his (so he said) car hood and screaming for some reason (maybe he had broken up with his girl or something, but who knows?)

At the sight of an AR15 (again, not pointed at him), he politely appologized for waking the complex up and said it wouldn't happen again.

I went back inside and took about 30 minutes to let my heart rate return to normal before I could think of sleep again.

matteo101 04-24-2004 11:24 PM

*I can't follow instructions*

spasblitz 04-25-2004 08:36 AM

I was living in a not-so-nice area of St. Louis. I was working at the Player's Island Casino and had silly work hours. I was home and wide awake at 2:30 am when the car alarm for my VERY nice 84 Monte Carlo SS began to scream. It was a very windy night so i went and looked out the window of my shotgun apartment, and noticed nothing wrong, so i silenced the alarm and went back to playing Red Alert on my puter. Two minutes later it went off again, i looked and saw nothing at first so i silenced the alarm again, that's when i saw the guy in my car wrestling with the steering column.

At that point in my life...I owned 3 things of value.

1. My Monte Carlo SS
2. My stainless steel .22rifle
3. My computer

I also was recently separated from my wife and child....might have had just a BIT of frustration built up....anyways, when I saw this guy in my car, instead of re-engaging the car alarm and calmly calling 911...i bolted for the closet and fetched my gun. I jumped out on the front porch with my heart pounding soaked with the adrenelin shot of a lifetime and yelled "HEY MOTHERF***ER" took aim through my scope right at his head and pulled off a round.....right at the moment i shot, he got the car started and his head moved back. He took off. I got in the street and popped off 3 more rounds at my car speeding away...

Cops came, were quite sympathetic to my story....etc....lots more interesting stuff in this story, but this is the guts of it. The car ended up smashed up into a concrete wall in downtown St. Louis about 5miles from my apt, and the cops were teasing my about my bad shooting skills....

I lost two of my 3 prized possessions that night, my car and my rifle (which i did get back a few months later)

CSflim 04-25-2004 10:45 AM

I don't have a gun (I live in Ireland).

But if I was in a situation where I did happen to have a gun, and the situation warranted its use, then I guess I would use it.

sam95519 04-25-2004 04:11 PM

While in the Navy. I'm Master o' Arms standing mid watch on my ship and we're tied up at NWS Seal Beach. Needless to say not much is going on when we spot a small boat coming toward us. Can you say WTF? Halt ! US NAVY WARSHIP! DO NOT APPROACH!
Pull my side arm (.45) and line up on the drunk and his buddy who thought it would be a good hoot to buzz a Cruiser. He seems to realize that maybe this wasn't such a good when he finally sees me with my gun drawn and turns around.

If I had to I would of shot him and his buddy without hesitation.
If I ever have to pull a gun in the future I will and use if needed.

H12 04-25-2004 04:29 PM

I've never had to, and I'm somewhat afraid to, but I know I would if it was a matter of my family's safety and my body's protection.

animosity 04-25-2004 06:57 PM

i would if i had to...would if i had a gun.
im not yet ready for the responsibility.... one day

LewisCouch 04-25-2004 07:48 PM

Didn't have to point it, just displayed it. The bad guys got the message and left...in a hurry. I'm not involved with drugs any longer, too dangerous a life style.

Spartak 04-25-2004 08:06 PM

I never handled a loaded gun outside a shooting range.

backwash 04-25-2004 08:15 PM

I would only consider using a gun in self defense. but i guess it would help if i owned one too

analog 04-25-2004 10:33 PM

Nope, and I hope I never have to.

But, given the situation where my love's (or my own) life is threatened, there will not be a moment of hesitation.

NoSoup 04-26-2004 09:31 AM

Have never been in a situation that warrented it, but if I had a firearm and someone's life was threatened, be it mine or someone I love, I would use it without hesitation.

water_boy1999 04-26-2004 10:22 AM

Nope.

Of course if someone was pointing a gun at me, I would be hoping I had one too.

FaderMonkey 04-26-2004 11:13 AM

I guess if I felt threatened I probably would, but I don't own a gun and I have no plans to own one, so I voted no.

Bill O'Rights 04-26-2004 11:58 AM

I have aimed a M-16 asault rifle at someone with full intent to fire. In 1983 I was in the Air Force responding to an IZ/OZ alarm on a Minuteman III missle silo. OZ alarms mean that someone, or something, usually an antelope, or a jackrabbit, has breached the Outer Zone. Hardly worth a raised eyebrow, really. IZ/OZ alarms mean that someone has breached the Outer Zone, and is attempting to gain access to the silo via the hatch (Inner Zone). Since antelopes and jackrabbits rarely, if ever, attempt to turn combination locks, these alarms are usually taken a bit more seriously. When we arrived, we were greeted by a group of college kids partying inside the perimeter. When challenged, one of the more macho of the kids thought he'd play it up for the girls, and made a move for our lieutenant's side arm. This action, on his part, brought the attention of 6 M-16s, and 2 M-60 machine guns to bear. There is no sound quite like the simultaneous chambering of rounds in so many weapons. The kid literally shit and pissed himself. And, as I recall, spent three days in federal custody, courtesy of your United States Air Force, and the FBI.

assilem 04-26-2004 12:12 PM

Do those air pistols count? I have shot lots of people with those air guns that shoot those little blue and yellow pellets. They hurt like bloody hell. If the FBI had a most wanted list for air gun maniacs I would be #1 on the list.

streak_56 04-26-2004 12:39 PM

My friends and I play one-pump with the air bb gun
good times

Redgirl 04-26-2004 12:40 PM

We have a shotgun in the house for protection, but we've never needed it. I just hope if it's ever up to me to use it, I remember how to load the damn thing!! I've never shot a gun before, but my husband assures me the distinct sound a shotgun makes should be all I need.

majik_6 04-26-2004 05:07 PM

Although I've never had a need to use, or threaten the use of, a gun on an individual, I realize that in the situation, I'd have to do what needed done to protect myself or loved ones.

I was taught from a young age, that you don't pull a gun just to intimidate someone. The rule I've been taught, is that you should ONLY brandish your weapon if you intend to use it in a deadly fashion. It's neither safe nor realistic to use a firearm with the sole thought that you'll "blow off their trigger finger" (or administer a similar non-lethal injury). It is also ridiculous to brandish a weapon if you don't feel that there is an actual need to do serious and permanent bodily harm to an individual. Often, bringing out a gun will escalate a situation that could possibly be otherwise resolved to a point where the gun is the ONLY option.

That being said, I HAVE however, had a (supposedly) unloaded handgun leveled at my head. Although I trusted the person holding the weapon not to attempt anything (they were/are young and stupid and were attempting to frighten me), I wasn't confident in their certainty as to the possible presence of live ammunition.


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