03-30-2004, 10:59 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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I was down the pub last night...
I was down the pub last night, and I inhaled. I found, joy of all joys, that I could actually breathe! The wonders never cease....
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03-30-2004, 11:24 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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I enjoyed a trip to San Fran last year when I found out that the bars were smoke free. I understand that it is a person choice to smoke or not but to come out of a bar and not reek like a chimney was great.
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03-30-2004, 11:57 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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"A dublin restaurant has found a way to give the smoking ban the chop. Taylors Three Rock and Farmhouse Bar in Rathfarnham has removed one of the pub windows and replaced it with a smoker's guillotine modelled on the French guillotine. There is a circular hole in the window where the smoker can put his or head through the window. The smoker's head is outside the building while his body remains inside, thus technically complying with the new ban. Having his cake and eating it yesterday was Haro Mulligan above, from Kellystown"
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03-30-2004, 12:02 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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The bars here in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada have been smoke free for a couple of years now. Its GREAT! I even have friends who smoke that like this better. The air in the bar is fresh and clean. You feel better after a night at the bar and while you are in the bars. I love it and would not want it any other way.
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03-30-2004, 12:07 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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Yeah, I was surprised by the number of my smoker friends who are actually delighted about the ban. They feel that it will get them to cut down, maybe even quit.
A lot of them find that they smoke most often when they are in the pub...esp. when they are around others smoking.
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03-30-2004, 12:27 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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Location: the land of milk and honey
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yeah, we saw this on the news, I found it humorous that it started in Ireland, a place that you would think that smoking goes hand in hand with drinking. anybody got any insight as to why this went into effect. I think it is a great thing, but maybe i am just shocked that it was in Ireland.
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03-30-2004, 11:21 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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I once went to a party held by a Public Health university class, and only 2 or so people out of 100 smoked. It was the best feeling ever! Being able to go out of there and go home and actually don't reak of smoke, and to wake up and feel way better because your hair doesn't stink and neither does your clothes, that really made me want to ban smoking in bars and clubs.
I'm all for the ban, if it isn't nation-wide and strictly enforced, nobody would start doing it. Can't wait till my next trip to Ireland! |
03-31-2004, 12:06 AM | #13 (permalink) | |
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In NZ they passed some legislation that will make all bars smoke-free within a couple of years. Not fast enough I say.
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03-31-2004, 12:27 AM | #14 (permalink) | |
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The public overwhelmingly support this. So do I and I'm a smoker. It will be interesting when I get home (on my next trip in a couple of months) to go down the pub and not light up inside. Why are you "shocked"? The Irish can't have a progressive Minister for Health? Mr Mephisto |
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03-31-2004, 02:43 AM | #16 (permalink) | |
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03-31-2004, 05:29 AM | #17 (permalink) | |
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In countries where health care costs are "everybody's business", it makes sense, as Mr Mephisto said, to have a progressive attitude when it comes to lowering the risk of severe health problems, be they from smoker, or second-hand smoke. Good for Ireland. If Canada would just continue along this road, I'd be even happier. |
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03-31-2004, 05:51 AM | #18 (permalink) |
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Can't wait untill that law is passed in Sweden aswell. I don't want to smell like a ashtray when I get home.
I'm happy for you CSflim!
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03-31-2004, 10:23 AM | #19 (permalink) | |
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It's ok to think that a country is backward, old-fashioned, and unhealthy, I think America is and I live here. and this is no criticism on the Irish, either. I'm Scotch/Irish and still proud.
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03-31-2004, 11:50 AM | #20 (permalink) |
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I love it here in NYC.. of course the people are now all outside so walking by the bars means getting smokefulls in your face even when you choose to not go inside the bar, that's the only drawback.
when we were in EU territory it was all smoking. We got spoiled here in NYC.
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03-31-2004, 12:10 PM | #21 (permalink) |
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by moonstrucksoul
mainly because the people I have met from Ireland, vacationers and nationals, act like sitting around in a pub, having a stout Guiness and smoking is all they do. ]/quote] Well, a lot of us do! But that doesn't mean our government can't act to protect those who choose NOT to smoke... Mr Mephisto |
03-31-2004, 12:54 PM | #22 (permalink) | |
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03-31-2004, 01:17 PM | #23 (permalink) | |
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03-31-2004, 01:23 PM | #24 (permalink) |
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Wow...my first reaction was "what the hell?!" I can see no-smoking restaurants and such, but a pub?
On the other hand, if that happened here, I wouldn't smoke NEARLY as much...I tend to smoke a LOT more when I'm drinking. Having to go outside would make me majorly cut down. hmmmm....
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03-31-2004, 01:32 PM | #25 (permalink) | |
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The current Time magazine has this fascinating item:
TIME.com: Why Bars Are So Smoky -- Apr. 05, 2004 Quote:
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03-31-2004, 09:49 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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I was surprised to see so many smokers supporting the ban. We have a ban in the bars around ASU, and several of the bars/pubs in the downtown area are allegedly going out of business because the smokers are going elsewhere for their drinks in response to the ban. Me thinks there may be more under the surface, after seeing what has been said.
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04-01-2004, 11:05 AM | #30 (permalink) |
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Location: Ireland
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I think that the reason that so many smokers are for the ban is because it will help them quit, or at least cut down.
Ask any smoker who has been smoking for a reasonably long period of time if they have ever tried to quit...the majority of them will tell you that they have.
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04-01-2004, 11:25 AM | #31 (permalink) |
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I have to admit that when I first heard about this I honestly thought it was going to cause civil unrest. Not because of any preconceptions about the Irish (except that a lot of the Irish people I know smoke), but because I know what a bunch of crabby bastards smokers are when they haven't had a fag.
I seriously hope that if this law ever comes to the UK, which it looks like it might, it will be modified somewhat. Having mandatory no-smoking zones seems like a good idea to me, but having a blanket ban is a bit ott. I'm not a smoker myself, but I would like my smoking friends to be able to have a fag now and then, mainly for the reasons cited above. Why not have a limited number of smoking-licensed premises in each authority and make them pay extra tax for the smoking licence? But then I'm not an MP. Couldn't stomach all that booze...
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04-02-2004, 03:32 PM | #35 (permalink) |
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The only complaint I have with having to smoke outside is when its cold as fuck out. I just wish we had an indoor place for when its -10 out hehe.
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04-03-2004, 12:06 PM | #39 (permalink) |
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I'd like to see it in the UK, but I think it will never happen, they know it will hurt cigarette sales and the government makes so much money out of cigarette's in duty and the fact that smokers die younger and claim much less pension money and health care on average.
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04-03-2004, 02:56 PM | #40 (permalink) |
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Same applies in Ireland Strange Famous. If you're addicted, you'll still buy them.
Also, the government spends VASTLY more on nicotene related health issue than it gets from duty on their sale. All governments, western ones at least, would prefer if you gave up smoking. Even if that meant less "income" for them on tax. They'd save big-time in the long run... Mr Mephisto |
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