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mrquackers 03-25-2004 08:33 AM

Georgia bans genital piercing
 
This could arguably go in either politics or sexuality... but seems like a topic ripe for general discussion.

Linky: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ital_piercings

Quote:

ATLANTA - Genital piercings for women were banned by the Georgia House Wednesday as lawmakers considered a bill outlining punishments for female genital mutilation.

The bill would make such mutilation punishable by two to 20 years in prison. It makes no exception for people who give consent to have the procedure performed on their daughters out of religious or cultural custom.

An amendment adopted without objection added "piercing" to the list of things that may not be done to female genitals. Even adult women would not be allowed to get the procedure. The bill eventually passed 160-0, with no debate.
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I love my home state... but at times like this, I cringe. Look, a pierced clit ain't my thing, but making it illegal? C'mon!

Charlatan 03-25-2004 08:37 AM

I think something is missing here... Generally speaking I think they (most likely) are reacting to some cultures desire to perform clitorectomies on their daughters/women. A despicable practice.

What they've come up with goes beyond that...

Holo 03-25-2004 09:21 AM

I'd like to see the feminist's reaction to this. On the one hand you have something very positive (ban on mutilation) but you discriminate consenting females to get pierced and not males. This will just end up causing more home-grown piercings and the resulting infections and complications for those who don't do it properly, or at best causing females tro go the neighboring states to get it done. Considering the number of women who want genital piercings is rather low I'd rather see this ban than see one more female child have their sexuality ripped (or cut as it where) from them before they can realize it's potential. Banning choice is not good, but this is at least a step in the right direction for a heinous crime against women.

Mephisto2 03-25-2004 09:22 AM

You crazy Americans...

:-)


Mr Mephisto

bparker805 03-25-2004 09:24 AM

Im guessing that everyone of those 160 peolple that voted are all over 65 and just "don't understand kids these days." According to this article it still sounds like it is ok for guys to get genital piercings... Is it legal for a state to put a law into place that is so sexually biased?

Halx 03-25-2004 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Mephisto
You crazy Americans...

*CRIES*

kutulu 03-25-2004 09:32 AM

If someone wants to fight it, they shouldn't have too much of a problem. It's very discriminatory and even excludes people who want it done.

moonstrucksoul 03-25-2004 09:34 AM

i am sure someone with some money will battle this in court, and try to get a legal definition for the difference between mutilation and adornment.

ratbastid 03-25-2004 09:40 AM

I wonder how many of the male members (koff) of the Georgia House are circumsized?

There is a small but vocal contingent of folks who believe that male circumcision is tanamount to mutilation.

Mephisto2 03-25-2004 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ratbastid
I wonder how many of the male members (koff) of the Georgia House are circumsized?

There is a small but vocal contingent of folks who believe that male circumcision is tanamount to mutilation.

What?! Me?!!

MUTILATED?!!

<hangs head in shame>



Mr Mephisto

mattevil 03-25-2004 11:22 AM

well i guess you could always get it done out of state(who's going to really check?) .still sucks though for the piercing people. i do think genital mutilation is wrong just not piercings since they usually add to pleasure than take it away.

clavus 03-25-2004 11:55 AM

Thank God we've won the War on Terrorism. Now we can focus on the War on the Vagina.

World's King 03-25-2004 01:10 PM

Fuck that. I wanna be there for the protests.

Picture it now... hundreds of girls with no pants on with thier clits pierced. It's like Heaven... but in the South.

Evil Milkman 03-25-2004 01:25 PM

"Let freedom ring." :mad:

That's it! Freedom clit rings! Anyone want to start a small business?

ariekitten 03-25-2004 02:55 PM

wow thats just amazing....sounds like something that crazy texas conservatives might do *knocks on wood*
i understand outlawing genital mutilation, bc that's just wrong
but outlawing piercings? *shakes head*

bparker805 03-25-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Original King
Fuck that. I wanna be their for the protests.

Picture it now... hundreds of girls with no pants on with thier clits pierced. It's like Heaven... but in the South.

Im with you OK! Lets start our own "Ride Across America For the Freedom of The Clit Ring". Along the way, we could collect pictures of women with metal in there heyheys and post 'em all over the Georgia Governor's Mansion.

Lebell 03-25-2004 03:12 PM

There's a dup thread of this in "Politics".

james t kirk 03-25-2004 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Mephisto
You crazy Americans...

:-)


Mr Mephisto

LOL,

Yep, worry about pierced clits. Don't they have anything more important to worry about down there in Georgia.

Tophat665 03-25-2004 04:02 PM

If they outlaw clit piercings, only outlaws will have pierced clits.

Circumscision is mutilation by definition. I want my foreskin back!

Because this applies only to women, and because it is possible for men to have analagous operations, this violates the equal protection clause and will be struck down just as soon as it meets a judge with an ounce of brains and integrity.

celaeno 03-25-2004 06:44 PM

Two to 20 years in prison? ::whistles::

You'd think that getting that pierced would be painful enough. Though, I wonder how popular that kind of act of defiance would make a woman in prison.

"Lick this, bitch!"

onodrim 03-25-2004 07:53 PM

That's incredible sad.

Their intentions were noble in wanting to abolish genital mutilation, but a clit piercing that a women has done of her own will, hardly falls into the category of mutilation.

And like others have mentioned, it sounds like its only geared towrds females, and thats even worse. What makes it wrong for a woman to pierce her clit, but a man can go about piercing whatever he wants? Completely sexist and unfair.

I'm glad I don't live in Georgia, I just hope that this unfortuante law stays there, and is ammended soon.

Prince 03-25-2004 10:32 PM

This is fucking insane.

Randerolf 03-25-2004 10:48 PM

I used to be very well-read on human rights, laws concerning concerning adults, and victimless crime. I believe that the only legal form of sex is Georgia is between a man and a woman in the missionary possition. The reast is legally defined as "sodomy" and is punishable under law.

It's been a while. I think there was a case where cops raided the wrong house for a drug bust and found a guy performing oral to another guy. There was some penalty. I can't remember if it was jail or not.

Aww well, I live in Florida. My friend has lost enough dick piercings while surfing to get out a metal detector and start a jewlery business.

analog 03-26-2004 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by clavus
Thank God we've won the War on Terrorism. Now we can focus on the War on the Vagina.
...and get back to the War on Drugs. ::rolls eyes::

yabobo 03-26-2004 04:31 AM

very sad to see tax payers money
wasted like this. Time to revolt!

BoCo 03-26-2004 06:51 AM

I think it's completely insane as well. I have never liked any laws that were made to protect us from our own stupid actions. Let the dumb girls mess up their bodies as much as they want. Eventually they will see the results of their mistakes, and it'll most likely be too late to reverse what they have done to themselves. If you don't believe in God, then call it survival of the fittest. If you do believe in God, then you should follow His rules of allowing people free will.

One other thing: don't sit here and bash conservatives for this because it passed with a unanimous vote, both by Republicans and Democrats.

MSD 03-26-2004 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BoCo
One other thing: don't sit here and bash conservatives for this because it passed with a unanimous vote, both by Republicans and Democrats.
Yep, bunch of fucking idiots, all of them.

brianna 03-26-2004 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Randerolf
I used to be very well-read on human rights, laws concerning concerning adults, and victimless crime. I believe that the only legal form of sex is Georgia is between a man and a woman in the missionary possition. The reast is legally defined as "sodomy" and is punishable under law.

It's been a while. I think there was a case where cops raided the wrong house for a drug bust and found a guy performing oral to another guy. There was some penalty. I can't remember if it was jail or not.

actually this is no longer the law in ANY state -- the supreme court recently ruled on a Texas sodomy case (http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/26/scotus.sodomy/) and declared such law unconstitutional... so go out and have wild and crazy sex with another man, just don't let your girlfriend pierce her clit.

bermuDa 03-26-2004 11:46 AM

I'm guessing Genital mutilation was the focus of the law... but this definitely goes beyond that realm.

I'm interested to hear how they plan on enforcing that. there must've been a bunch of Georgia house members volunteering to go check all the women in the state.

rev_skarekroe 03-26-2004 12:41 PM

Doesn't it still have to pass in the Senate and cross the Governor's desk?
I doubt this bill will become law in its current state.

Bleed Me Dry 03-26-2004 04:12 PM

What will they try to ban next? If you can't even mutilate your own body in the private sanctuary of a parlor, then what will we mutilate? There's always going to be something somebody doesn't like though this is going a little far. Me being a piercing junkie...wait I'll be there to protest in a minute, save me a spot.:mad:

ngdawg 03-26-2004 08:01 PM

Kinda gives a whole new perspective on the standard cops' yell of 'SPREAD'EM"!

Spartak 03-27-2004 01:38 AM

Ok, going outside the state to pierce whatever did not occur to people ?

suviko 03-27-2004 05:37 AM

I'd love to hear how they are gonna see that the law is working.. :P

Astrocloud 03-28-2004 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by suviko
I'd love to hear how they are gonna see that the law is working.. :P
LOL


"EXCUSE ME MA'AM -I AM THE STATE PUSSY INSPECTOR.
PLEASE REMOVE YOUR UNDERGARMENTS, LIFT UP YOUR SKIRT AND ALLOW ME TO EXAMINE YOUR GENITALIA"

Evil Milkman 03-29-2004 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Astrocloud
LOL


"EXCUSE ME MA'AM -I AM THE STATE PUSSY INSPECTOR.
PLEASE REMOVE YOUR UNDERGARMENTS, LIFT UP YOUR SKIRT AND ALLOW ME TO EXAMINE YOUR GENITALIA"

Where do I apply?

WarWagon 03-29-2004 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bermuDa
I'm guessing Genital mutilation was the focus of the law... but this definitely goes beyond that realm.

I'm interested to hear how they plan on enforcing that. there must've been a bunch of Georgia house members volunteering to go check all the women in the state.

Thats why it was 160-0, duh ;)

thejoker130 03-30-2004 08:23 AM

To heck with the war on drugs we should declare war on Georgia and call it "Operation Vagina Freedom!"

Men let us join our fellow sisters, raise our fists and in one voice declare our genitals free!

wannabenakid247 03-30-2004 08:29 AM

Genital peircing is a bit different from removing the clitoris completely cant they differentiate that???

kutulu 03-30-2004 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wannabenakid247
Genital peircing is a bit different from removing the clitoris completely cant they differentiate that???
Well... they live in Georgia


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